Convoy Trucking

I'm asking this because i've been in the LV dirtring tonight, the lag was awful. I like the fact that we're at 100 slots again. But i hate the fact that there's so much lag. I know it's been less than 48 hours. But i want to know if anyone else is having the same experience as me. Just cast your vote. List your issues. No flaming, and keep it clean.

My issues

• Chat lag
  
• Player lag (player in front will teleport behind me, or he'll tp into me causing crash)
  
• Ferry Derping (ferry arrives in peices)
  
• Desyncs
  
• Ping Spikes("Your ping is too high" warnings regularly)
  
• Lack of updates (See shakes post). I agree with him fully. I'm not too sure if it's the same as the UK in Ireland, but a lot of the colleges/universites go back to learning in September. That leaves a month. That's not a lot of time. I dont want to put pressure on Mick in any way. But he could do with the help. I'm not speaking for him or demanding, just my thoughts. Partitions of the script to fix wont mean the GM being stolen entirely.
  
  Floating bins: go to each one in game. Type /save on top of the bin. you'll be able to get the X Y and part of the Z from it. Use that, and email/pm mick and give it to him. He can then search for the coordinates and the bin object, and remove it.
  
  The bug i showed with the two skins, just organise the dialog responses.
  
  /timelap bug still there, may create a timer, i don't know. But easily fixed with a variable
  


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I have 0 mods. A clean img file. My PC has GTA on high priority. Its only me using my internet. My ping usually averages around the 250-300 mark. But every 5 mins or so i get the ping warning. I check my ping, its perfectly normal as i mentioned around the 250 mark. If i remember correctly, before the DDOS's started, we were at 96/100 players constantly around 22:00pm UK time. Now just checking, we're at 44/100. You've raised the server slots. But its done nothing :/ i've seen it highest at 56.

Admins can lock this if you wish. So can mick. But i'd like to know what everyone else's issues are too. Even partake in the discussion.

Break any of the bolded text. I'll report it to moderator.

When you vote. I'd like a response from you why you voted for an option. I'd like feedback.

I have only issues with chat lag, NOTHING else... But they are rare too...

There's no point in saying what option I chose, because it's pretty obvious.


As I stated before, CT needs a great effort, and I don't doubt about mick's skill to keep CT alive, but it isn't enough for now. We're having A LOT (when I mean a lot I really say A DAMN LOT) of problems and troubles, and we need some "spring cleaning" on CT, and it needs some improvement.


1- We do need a new host, because 50 or 100 slots with this host doesn't matter, we barely get like 10 more players than what we had with 50 slots and we still lag horribly.


2- We need a staff cleaning. Yes, we got plenty of staff members, but it seems like most are inactive/don't do anything. I won't state names because it has becoming obvious who are the staff members that are online on the server. Almost 20% of the staff is active everyday (not counting the ones who are on vacation), and we need new staff members who are active.


3- We need improvements on the script. I don't really see Mick doing it, but he needs to or CT will die in 2-3 months. We've been losing A LOT of players due to no updates on the gamemode or anything really. Mick needs a helper on the script, and he knows it. We've got plenty of skilled scripters (staff and non-staff players) who would like to help mick and CT to keep growing and being #1. If mick doesn't decide to get helpers, the server is doomed.


This is just my pure opinion, there are a lot more points that I'd need to cover, but I won't do it so I won't create a wall of text.

I had some problems, lags and slow chat, I think 75 slots would be great . I have seen player were mostly at 60 to 70 we don't need 100 now.

Quote from: brane on July 28, 2013, 22:37
I have only issues with chat lag, NOTHING else... But they are rare too...

Are you not concerened as staff about:

HostName: Convoy Trucking
Address:  play.convoytrucking.net:7777
Players:  44 / 100
Ping:     251
Mode:     Convoy Trucking 2.6 Beta3
Map:      Convoy Trucking


Chat lag - No
Player lag (player in front will teleport behind me, or he'll tp into me causing crash) - No
Ferry Derping (ferry arrives in peices) - N/A didn't check
Desyncs - No
Ping Spikes("Your ping is too high" warnings regularly) - My ping is the same at ~110

I haven't had any issues with the added slots. I also don't play as much so my experience may be different than others.

I dont mean to sound an ass hobo


Last 7 days: 1 hours 49 min

I understand you may be busy with university and stuff (hows it going btw?) but you should try and stay online for a while longer than above. You'll soon see it. :)

Quote from: Shake on July 28, 2013, 22:39

2- We need a staff cleaning. Yes, we got plenty of staff members, but it seems like most are inactive/don't do anything. I won't state names because it has becoming obvious who are the staff members that are online on the server. Almost 20% of the staff is active everyday (not counting the ones who are on vacation), and we need new staff members who are active.
Twido: True fact!


3- We need improvements on the script. I don't really see Mick doing it, but he needs to or CT will die in 2-3 months. We've been losing A LOT of players due to no updates on the gamemode or anything really. Mick needs a helper on the script, and he knows it. We've got plenty of skilled scripters (staff and non-staff players) who would like to help mick and CT to keep growing and being #1. If mick doesn't decide to get helpers, the server is doomed.
Twido: One of the reasons why I left CT!!! Btw, There is a reason why Mick doesn't get a co-owner from CT. I think its better for Mick to get a co-owner that doesn't play CT. And yes I know some people who doesn't play on the server but scripts for the server. (Not CT ofcourse) And if he picks someone from CT then well yeah. The problems and thing topic will just get spammed.


This is just my pure opinion, there are a lot more points that I'd need to cover, but I won't do it so I won't create a wall of text.

Quote from: Shake on July 28, 2013, 22:39
3- We need improvements on the script. I don't really see Mick doing it, but he needs to or CT will die in 2-3 months. We've been losing A LOT of players due to no updates on the gamemode or anything really. Mick needs a helper on the script, and he knows it. We've got plenty of skilled scripters (staff and non-staff players) who would like to help mick and CT to keep growing and being #1. If mick doesn't decide to get helpers, the server is doomed.

I'd hate someone to work on my GM. But if it ever came to it, i'd make sure to leave specific bits out, variables. Enums etc. I know a majority of them can be copied, write an include, if we don't have that include, it'll crash the compiler. y_lock to lock the GM from opening on another IP. There's hundreds of ways to do it.

@Twido. You'd want someone from CT to work on it, otherwise they wouldn't get the "feel" for the script, they'd look at it like its just a piece of code.

if you were scripting externally (Not player on CT) and you saw:


HasNoCC(vid)
{
switch (GetVehicleModel(vid))
{
    case 460,476,511,512,513,519,520,553,577,592,593: return 1;
}
return 0;
}


You wouldnt know/care about what it does. To me, that stops CC in planes. Funny thing is, its CT's CC script too. You'd look at the code as if its another "Hobby" you're working on. I wouldn't. i'd quite happily take care of CT script wise until mick flips the switch.

For the CC in Milestone County, is that tied in with MapAndreas? I have no issues with it on mapped places. I've gone further out than Milestone county too.

I like the idea Shake has. Mick really needs some helper on the script.

Quote from: brane on July 28, 2013, 23:19
I like the idea Shake has. Mick really needs some helper on the script.

+1. Because of that, i've added an extra thing to the OP

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 28, 2013, 23:08

Quote from: Shake on July 28, 2013, 22:39
[hide=Just some stuff]3- We need improvements on the script. I don't really see Mick doing it, but he needs to or CT will die in 2-3 months. We've been losing A LOT of players due to no updates on the gamemode or anything really. Mick needs a helper on the script, and he knows it. We've got plenty of skilled scripters (staff and non-staff players) who would like to help mick and CT to keep growing and being #1. If mick doesn't decide to get helpers, the server is doomed.
[/h][/h][/h]

I'd hate someone to work on my GM. But if it ever came to it, i'd make sure to leave specific bits out, variables. Enums etc. I know a majority of them can be copied, write an include, if we don't have that include, it'll crash the compiler. y_lock to lock the GM from opening on another IP. There's hundreds of ways to do it.

@Twido. You'd want someone from CT to work on it, otherwise they wouldn't get the "feel" for the script, they'd look at it like its just a piece of code.

if you were scripting externally (Not player on CT) and you saw:

Code Select Expand


HasNoCC(vid)
{
   switch (GetVehicleModel(vid))
   {
       case 460,476,511,512,513,519,520,553,577,592,593: return 1;
   }
   return 0;
}


You wouldnt know/care about what it does. To me, that stops CC in planes. Funny thing is, its CT's CC script too. You'd look at the code as if its another "Hobby" you're working on. I wouldn't. i'd quite happily take care of CT script wise until mick flips the switch.

For the CC in Milestone County, is that tied in with MapAndreas? I have no issues with it on mapped places. I've gone further out than Milestone county too.

You don't have to play on the server to know how it works. You can just go on a test server and try the script

Well i have same lag as ever just gor once high ping and all ftw is true the 100 slots arent full like in the past in MY OPINION the slots should be reduced to 80 or 70 just an opinion :)

Damn I triple posted :/ Can an admin delete the 2 that has no red color?

Triple post much Twido?


I know you can do that. I was merely questioning how it didn't work at Milestone County in the first place. The stock that i showed, was merely an example of a 3rd party scripter (someone outside the community) looking at it. I'll remove it if you wish.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 28, 2013, 23:41
Triple post much Twido?


I know you can do that. I was merely questioning how it didn't work at Milestone County in the first place. The stock that i showed, was merely an example of a 3rd party scripter (someone outside the community) looking at it. I'll remove it if you wish.

yeah delete it, thx for that :) Its just a big question mark how CT is going to be in the future.

Quote from: Twido on July 28, 2013, 23:51

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 28, 2013, 23:41
Triple post much Twido?


I know you can do that. I was merely questioning how it didn't work at Milestone County in the first place. The stock that i showed, was merely an example of a 3rd party scripter (someone outside the community) looking at it. I'll remove it if you wish.

yeah delete it, thx for that :) Its just a big question mark how CT is going to be in the future.

If it continues like this, dead.

+1 Server need a change, new staff new script
Mick need  help...

No.
Nothing to do on it.

Quote from: Same99 on July 29, 2013, 00:38
No.
Nothing to do on it.

Nothing to do on what? Elaborate please.

Events,new mission.
Btw stop using hard grammar words xD.

1. Mick needs to just be somewhat more involved
2. staff does need a cleanup
3. updates should happen but the majority of the GM (probably in Micks mind) is done
4. evictions need to happen every 1st of the month, no matter what, if someone hasnt done a mission in 45-60 days they arent active and house hogging, same with the club bases.. its pathetic to see see a club with several inactive leaders have only one person donate a month to keep the base up, personally bases are useless now


just an opinion

Quote from: Ethan on July 29, 2013, 00:52
1. Mick needs to just be somewhat more involved
2. staff does need a cleanup
3. updates should happen but the majority of the GM (probably in Micks mind) is done
4. evictions need to happen every 1st of the month, no matter what, if someone hasnt done a mission in 45-60 days they arent active and house hogging, same with the club bases.. its pathetic to see see a club with several inactive leaders have only one person donate a month to keep the base up, personally bases are useless now


just an opinion

everything is true expect 3. A gamemode will never be done

Quote from: Ethan on July 29, 2013, 00:52
1. Mick needs to just be somewhat more involved
2. staff does need a cleanup
3. updates should happen but the majority of the GM (probably in Micks mind) is done
4. evictions need to happen every 1st of the month, no matter what, if someone hasnt done a mission in 45-60 days they arent active and house hogging, same with the club bases.. its pathetic to see see a club with several inactive leaders have only one person donate a month to keep the base up, personally bases are useless now


just an opinion

This ^ is the reason why i respect Ethan as a staff member & friend. He is strict, but has a funny side to him too. Can't find fault with you Ethan :D if you need a few suggestions of evictions xfire me ;)

A gamemode will never be "complete" no matter how much you work on it. If you consider it done, you need to think :D and come up with more ideas.

Gamemode isn't finished. Nothing is ever completed.

Quote from: Shake on July 28, 2013, 22:39
2- We need a staff cleaning. Yes, we got plenty of staff members, but it seems like most are inactive/don't do anything. I won't state names because it has becoming obvious who are the staff members that are online on the server. Almost 20% of the staff is active everyday (not counting the ones who are on vacation), and we need new staff members who are active.

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• We need more active staff, most of the time there are no staffs online its time to choose new staffs who are active.
• Admins need to check bases owner i have seen 75 percent of base owner are inactive, something should be done CT is dieing.
• Last thing about houses eviction should be done every month.

All agree with all of this.

Quote from: Same99 on July 29, 2013, 00:47
Events,new mission.
Btw stop using hard grammar words xD.

Elaborate is basic English  ::)

1. Server lags....i get ping warnings very often , but never got kicked :P Players trailer lags causes accident and crashes..

2. we need more staff. Most of the time when i play in morning and at night there is no staff online..There are some very inactive staff they should be removed and active players should be promoted.

3. We need some updates. Like new achievements...new maps.. some thing must be done.


Just my Opinion

For me the lag is alsmost same as it was before, but since there has been max 60 players online, then the lag is probably smaller too. I can not imagine when there is 100/100, it's going to be a mess i think.
I absolutely agree that we need new staff here, new updates etc and Mick needs a helper, he's way too busy with his life (and at the same time hundreds of players are waiting updates here, or idk how much)
As others has said: Something must be done!

Hi my opinions:

1 Mick needs to update the script, some month's ago he was "working/talking" about some mission types...
2 Yep even when most of them really are good friends, not every staff member is active anymore. If i ever become inactive i will resign before anyone complains.
3 Redstone, We got a map done (tnx benny, others) mick only needs to test it, test it more, and add it into the server..
4 Slots 50 is not enough and 100 is too much, as someone said above, 70/75 slots is enough for now since whole samp gets less users.
5 If we (admins) are more strict at insulting etc, then the community will be also better.

now you know what it felt like to be playing from Australia for 2 years...
i was getting that on a good day...

I voted for unsure. I dont say its a bad host but imo its better than what you would call a proper host which has more downtime than uptime.

Dobby's issues

Chat lag
Yes
Player lag (player in front will teleport behind me, or he'll tp into me causing crash)
Always been there, even with 40 ping other player can lag a bit and fuck your car up. You just dont drive close behind other player.
Ferry Derping (ferry arrives in peices)
Nope, just dont ESC while waiting for ferry. That's the problem.
Desyncs
Nope, only if the whole server derps.
Ping Spikes("Your ping is too high" warnings regularly)
Never, even if torrenting etc.
Lack of updates
Yes
Floating bins
I gave up reporting bugs if it's so hard to remove one single bin.

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About the staff. I think we need someone from Asia/Australia. There's just not enough staff from out there.
Also new achievements would help to get more players online at least temporary. And we need this right now.
More updates are always welcome. But thats up to mick.
If mick would give a damn about suggestions board that would be awesome. Sometimes there are great ideas supported by positive feedback from many players. For now the suggestions board has no meaning at all.

ps. We're just talking here. Don't get your hopes too fast about any changes  ;)

Quote from: SzajmoN on July 29, 2013, 11:28
I voted for unsure. I dont say its a bad host but imo its better than what you would call a proper host which has more downtime than uptime.

Dobby's issues

Chat lag
Yes
Player lag (player in front will teleport behind me, or he'll tp into me causing crash)
Always been there, even with 40 ping other player can lag a bit and fuck your car up. You just dont drive close behind other player.
Ferry Derping (ferry arrives in peices)
Nope, just dont ESC while waiting for ferry. That's the problem.
Desyncs
Nope, only if the whole server derps.
Ping Spikes("Your ping is too high" warnings regularly)
Never, even if torrenting etc.
Lack of updates
Yes
Floating bins
I gave up reporting bugs if it's so hard to remove one single bin.

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About the staff. I think we need someone from Asia/Australia. There's just not enough staff from out there.
Also new achievements would help to get more players online at least temporary. And we need this right now.
More updates are always welcome. But thats up to mick.
If mick would give a damn about suggestions board that would be awesome. Sometimes there are great ideas supported by positive feedback from many players. For now the suggestions board has no meaning at all.

ps. We're just talking here. Don't get your hopes too fast about any changes  ;)

Amen to Vlaams-Brabant!

This topic pretty much explains why I don't feel like playing anymore

Wish it was in europe again...

Server is so far really smooth, it doesnt lag, sometimes some minor lag but its obvious it will lag as every server of anywhere. Lag doesn't matter at this server, PACKETLOSS does.

And this is stupid, of course we need new moderators, most of them are inactive, calvin and me need some help at nights since Hobo left, and lets better dont talk about admins, i never saw one online since 1 or 2 weeks ago.

Quote from: Matias. on July 29, 2013, 15:15
Server is so far really smooth, it doesnt lag, sometimes some minor lag but its obvious it will lag as every server of anywhere. Lag doesn't matter at this server, PACKETLOSS does.

And this is stupid, of course we need new moderators, most of them are inactive, calvin and me need some help at nights since Hobo left, and lets better dont talk about admins, i never saw one online since 1 or 2 weeks ago.

kona is on vacations


ethan and sadman both got + 7 hours this week

Admins arent as important ingame as they are on the forums, hence why there is only 4 of us lol. Theres less chance of seeing us.

Quote from: TheSandman on July 29, 2013, 15:20
Admins arent as important ingame as they are on the forums, hence why there is only 4 of us lol. Theres less chance of seeing us.

mods got the same staff power as admins, except spawning rhinos and hydras

Quote from: Terrorista310 on July 29, 2013, 15:26

Quote from: TheSandman on July 29, 2013, 15:20
Admins arent as important ingame as they are on the forums, hence why there is only 4 of us lol. Theres less chance of seeing us.

mods got the same staff power as admins, except spawning rhinos and hydras

meh, admins need to look into reports/ban appeals @ forum.

But i think admins should be as active as moderators ingame.

Quote from: Madeon on July 29, 2013, 15:39

Quote from: Terrorista310 on July 29, 2013, 15:26

Quote from: TheSandman on July 29, 2013, 15:20
Admins arent as important ingame as they are on the forums, hence why there is only 4 of us lol. Theres less chance of seeing us.

mods got the same staff power as admins, except spawning rhinos and hydras

meh, admins need to look into reports/ban appeals @ forum.

But i think admins should be as active as moderators ingame.

Thats my point, if admins are the same as moderators, then they should be online in game also, i think. Anyways due to my timezone i only see Ethan online sometimes and sandman very weird times. xD

Quote from: Matias. on July 29, 2013, 15:15
And this is stupid, of course we need new moderators, most of them are inactive, calvin and me need some help at nights since Hobo left, and lets better dont talk about admins, i never saw one online since 1 or 2 weeks ago.

Sorry 'bout that.

I do agree though, more active staff is needed. Every time I go online (which is not often) there is almost never a staff member online besides ==none== and he sucks.

Quote from: Madeon on July 29, 2013, 15:39
But i think admins should be as active as moderators ingame.

I was pretty active in-game as admin. Mostly derping though.

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#FreeHobo

Quote from: Hobo on July 29, 2013, 16:06
I was pretty active in-game as admin. Mostly derping though.

God i will never forget the air-fight we had :x:D

Everyone can check on ct.net last 7 days activity of moderators/admins....

Quote from: Hobo on July 29, 2013, 16:06

Quote from: Matias. on July 29, 2013, 15:15
And this is stupid, of course we need new moderators, most of them are inactive, calvin and me need some help at nights since Hobo left, and lets better dont talk about admins, i never saw one online since 1 or 2 weeks ago.

Sorry 'bout that.

I do agree though, more active staff is needed. Every time I go online (which is not often) there is almost never a staff member online besides ==none== and he sucks.

Erm, that means we are undercover.....  :herpderp:

I thought you knew it ._.

Quote from: Matias. on July 29, 2013, 16:11

Quote from: Hobo on July 29, 2013, 16:06

Quote from: Matias. on July 29, 2013, 15:15
And this is stupid, of course we need new moderators, most of them are inactive, calvin and me need some help at nights since Hobo left, and lets better dont talk about admins, i never saw one online since 1 or 2 weeks ago.

Sorry 'bout that.

I do agree though, more active staff is needed. Every time I go online (which is not often) there is almost never a staff member online besides ==none== and he sucks.

Erm, that means we are undercover.....  :herpderp:
I thought you knew it ._.

I check TAB and /id as well. If anyone is online it's usually only one :|

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#FreeHobo

The moderator duty will not be respected by players.
When i come online i just only have to get insulting kids apart with the result of getting reported at forum for abuse.
So basicly i come online to fuck up my mood, and not to relax and having fun.
And thats not only for me, thats for the most staff i speak. Thats also one of the reasons we are inactive.

Quote from: Marccc on July 29, 2013, 16:20
The moderator duty will not be respected by players.
When i come online i just only have to get insulting kids apart with the result of getting reported at forum for abuse.
So basicly i come online to fuck up my mood, and not to relax and having fun.
And thats not only for me, thats for the most staff i speak. Thats also one of the reasons we are inactive.

He makes a good point. Too many people don't give a shit about staff unless they help them out of the water. That's one of the reasons I got tired of doing shit.
Then when we don't help you or you fuck up and we punish you all we get is:(http://i.imgur.com/kFnoSYC.png)

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#FreeHobo

QuotePlayer lag (player in front will teleport behind me, or he'll tp into me causing crash)

Learn to keep distance

QuoteFerry Derping (ferry arrives in peices)

This happens only if you press esc...

QuoteFloating bins:

They been floating for half a year or more...

Quote from: Marccc on July 29, 2013, 16:20
And thats not only for me, thats for the most staff i speak. Thats also one of the reasons we are inactive.

lol speak for yourself :P
The kids attitude doesnt bother me, it makes me have fun. It makes me think how can someone with 20 years old act like that.
Anyways yeah, i agree with you, sometimes you just come to get in more bad mood, but you know, you gotta behave and try to be useful to the team or resign.

Quote from: Hobo on July 29, 2013, 16:22

Quote from: Marccc on July 29, 2013, 16:20
The moderator duty will not be respected by players.
When i come online i just only have to get insulting kids apart with the result of getting reported at forum for abuse.
So basicly i come online to fuck up my mood, and not to relax and having fun.
And thats not only for me, thats for the most staff i speak. Thats also one of the reasons we are inactive.

He makes a good point. Too many people don't give a shit about staff unless they help them out of the water. That's one of the reasons I got tired of doing shit.
Then when we don't help you or you fuck up and we punish you all we get is:(http://i.imgur.com/kFnoSYC.png)

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#FreeHobo

And i also agree that most of people doesn't give a fuck about us till they fall to water and ask for help. Thats one of the reasons why i dont help people when they fail at driving anymore. I only help the people that is being nice with staff.
Multiple players likes to accuse the staff for 'abuse' when things doesn't be like they want, i have a really big list of this kind of players, but lets better dont name them. *cought*

Quote from: WhiteBear on July 29, 2013, 16:25

QuotePlayer lag (player in front will teleport behind me, or he'll tp into me causing crash)

Learn to keep distance

http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,2784.0.html (http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,2784.0.html)

Quote

QuoteFerry Derping (ferry arrives in peices)

This happens only if you press esc...

I would be MUCH more online if I could. I got plenty of time on use, my bro uses the PC only 2-3 hours daily, rest is mine. But I can't log in for a shit for more than 30 mins from 1pm till let's say 6-7 pm because the weather is soooo hot and my PC is overheating and it's impossible to play. :(

Before people start complaining about me being inactive.. Im on holidays so you wont see before 9 August ingame.
I agree that we need a few more staff members just because some people dont want to help people out of the water/being stuck .. But okay .. Thats your decision and the main reason people start raging and dislike you.
Im not saying names and Im not going to.
This is my own opinion and you may dont agree with me but that is up to you.

Quote from: TheGame on July 29, 2013, 17:22

I agree that we need a few more staff members just because some people dont want to help people out of the water/being stuck .. But okay .. Thats your decision and the main reason people start raging and dislike you.

In Portugal we have a "saying", "is not with vinegar that you catch flies"

that just sum up the situation you said tg.

Offtopic:
I love my new forum sign!!
You too Hobo? :D

I have been away for the last few days, but i'm going home tomorrow so i will be able to go online and post my opinion here.

Quote from: Matias. on July 29, 2013, 16:30

Quote from: WhiteBear on July 29, 2013, 16:25

QuotePlayer lag (player in front will teleport behind me, or he'll tp into me causing crash)

Learn to keep distance

http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,2784.0.html (http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,2784.0.html)

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QuoteFerry Derping (ferry arrives in peices)

This happens only if you press esc...

No, it really doesn't. I've logged in before, went to get on the ferry and half of it wasn't there. I've seen people fall through the ferry before too. Why should i have to keep distance? i shouldn't have to worry about driving around a corner, someones there and they lag backwards into me. It happens all the time.

Quote from: TheSandman on July 29, 2013, 15:20
Admins arent as important ingame as they are on the forums, hence why there is only 4 of us lol. Theres less chance of seeing us.

I do hope you're not suggesting that admins are allowed less in game time?.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 29, 2013, 21:19
No, it really doesn't. I've logged in before, went to get on the ferry and half of it wasn't there. I've seen people fall through the ferry before too. Why should i have to keep distance? i shouldn't have to worry about driving around a corner, someones there and they lag backwards into me. It happens all the time.

What you call 'lag' has been here since always, it was worser with Volt and when server was in europe, everyone was having over 300 ping. I have had to learn to keep distance and don't get close to other people. Why can't you?
Now with this new host i get 250 and still the same, i gotta keep the distance. You can't just stick to a guy ass and expect to get out of there in perfect status. How many times did we convoy and i suggested you to don't stick behind me? It happens in almost all servers and all games. All networks have lag and it cant be fixed, it can get improved but you will always have some lag.

Quote from: Marccc on July 29, 2013, 16:20
The moderator duty will not be respected by players.
When i come online i just only have to get insulting kids apart with the result of getting reported at forum for abuse.
So basicly i come online to fuck up my mood, and not to relax and having fun.
And thats not only for me, thats for the most staff i speak. Thats also one of the reasons we are inactive.

Thats true, its one of the reasons why i don't play that much anymore, others are, lag, nothing to do, am basicly bored most of the time so i just go play something els.

Quote from: Benny on July 29, 2013, 21:31

Quote from: Marccc on July 29, 2013, 16:20
The moderator duty will not be respected by players.
When i come online i just only have to get insulting kids apart with the result of getting reported at forum for abuse.
So basicly i come online to fuck up my mood, and not to relax and having fun.
And thats not only for me, thats for the most staff i speak. Thats also one of the reasons we are inactive.

Thats true, its one of the reasons why i don't play that much anymore, others are, lag, nothing to do, am basicly bored most of the time so i just go play something els.

I respect moderators that like to do their job as moderators I know you marcc. You're bored of the gamemode, so why are you still here?. You must still enjoy the gamemode a slight bit?

If you don't enjoy your job. Just resign already. It's not that hard. Yes, there's lag, and 3423523 other issues thats why i've started this topic. To try and get them sorted.

Quote from: Madeon on July 29, 2013, 20:44
Offtopic:
I love my new forum sign!!
You too Hobo? :D

Hahaha that's lovely :)

im on more often during the nights/weekends when I do have more fun time to play.. and yes, probably the most annoying thing is being a babysitter for people rather than me actually enjoying the gameplay.. granted accidents happen, trailers get stuck, etc.. but when you are on the 4/5 dst of fuel and someone is annoying you to get them out of the water because they suck at driving and you have no other option than to respawn them because they failed, I help by respawning someone and then they yell abuse or whatever the fuck, it makes you not even wanna get on without any other staff on

Quote from: Ethan on July 29, 2013, 23:51
im on more often during the nights/weekends when I do have more fun time to play.. and yes, probably the most annoying thing is being a babysitter for people rather than me actually enjoying the gameplay.. granted accidents happen, trailers get stuck, etc.. but when you are on the 4/5 dst of fuel and someone is annoying you to get them out of the water because they suck at driving and you have no other option than to respawn them because they failed, I help by respawning someone and then they yell abuse or whatever the fuck, it makes you not even wanna get on without any other staff on

Make it an "un-official" rule. If you drive into the water, you can't ask an admin for help.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 00:08

Quote from: Ethan on July 29, 2013, 23:51
im on more often during the nights/weekends when I do have more fun time to play.. and yes, probably the most annoying thing is being a babysitter for people rather than me actually enjoying the gameplay.. granted accidents happen, trailers get stuck, etc.. but when you are on the 4/5 dst of fuel and someone is annoying you to get them out of the water because they suck at driving and you have no other option than to respawn them because they failed, I help by respawning someone and then they yell abuse or whatever the fuck, it makes you not even wanna get on without any other staff on

Make it an "un-official" rule. If you drive into the water, you can't ask an admin for help.

Impossible. What we will be for, only ban machines?

Quote from: brane on July 30, 2013, 00:25

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 00:08

Quote from: Ethan on July 29, 2013, 23:51
im on more often during the nights/weekends when I do have more fun time to play.. and yes, probably the most annoying thing is being a babysitter for people rather than me actually enjoying the gameplay.. granted accidents happen, trailers get stuck, etc.. but when you are on the 4/5 dst of fuel and someone is annoying you to get them out of the water because they suck at driving and you have no other option than to respawn them because they failed, I help by respawning someone and then they yell abuse or whatever the fuck, it makes you not even wanna get on without any other staff on

Make it an "un-official" rule. If you drive into the water, you can't ask an admin for help.

Impossible. What we will be for, only ban machines?

Helping the players that are nice, and respect admins for their work. Like a few times, i've driven through a tunnel and my trailers randomly decided to spazz out and go crazy. It's the tunnel going into LS. from Whetstone. You keep the server hacker free. Even if Smokey beats you the nub. It should also be an unofficial rule that players shouldn't shout admins names in main chat if == none == is online.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 00:34

Quote from: brane on July 30, 2013, 00:25

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 00:08

Quote from: Ethan on July 29, 2013, 23:51
im on more often during the nights/weekends when I do have more fun time to play.. and yes, probably the most annoying thing is being a babysitter for people rather than me actually enjoying the gameplay.. granted accidents happen, trailers get stuck, etc.. but when you are on the 4/5 dst of fuel and someone is annoying you to get them out of the water because they suck at driving and you have no other option than to respawn them because they failed, I help by respawning someone and then they yell abuse or whatever the fuck, it makes you not even wanna get on without any other staff on

Make it an "un-official" rule. If you drive into the water, you can't ask an admin for help.

Impossible. What we will be for, only ban machines?

Helping the players that are nice, and respect admins for their work. Like a few times, i've driven through a tunnel and my trailers randomly decided to spazz out and go crazy. It's the tunnel going into LS. from Whetstone. You keep the server hacker free. Even if Smokey beats you the nub. It should also be an unofficial rule that players shouldn't shout admins names in main chat if == none == is online.

Players should just not be a dick if they want/need help. Really, a good attitude goes a long way. If you're an asshole to me, why the hell should I help you? It's actually not part of staff's job to help you out of the water if it's your fault. (In the "Staff something guide") Staff help new players with the gamemode and monitor the players on the server. It says nothing about helping people out of the water.

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#FreeHobo

Quote from: Hobo on July 30, 2013, 00:46
Players should just not be a dick if they want/need help. Really, a good attitude goes a long way. If you're an asshole to me, why the hell should I help you? It's actually not part of staff's job to help you out of the water if it's your fault. (In the "Staff something guide") Staff help new players with the gamemode and monitor the players on the server. It says nothing about helping people out of the water.

Quote from: Hobo
Players should just not be a dick if they want/need help. Really, a good attitude goes a long way. If you're an asshole to me, why the hell should I help you?

THAT right there explains it all

Quote from: Ethan on July 30, 2013, 04:18

Quote from: Hobo on July 30, 2013, 00:46
Players should just not be a dick if they want/need help. Really, a good attitude goes a long way. If you're an asshole to me, why the hell should I help you? It's actually not part of staff's job to help you out of the water if it's your fault. (In the "Staff something guide") Staff help new players with the gamemode and monitor the players on the server. It says nothing about helping people out of the water.

Quote from: Hobo
Players should just not be a dick if they want/need help. Really, a good attitude goes a long way. If you're an asshole to me, why the hell should I help you?

THAT right there explains it all

That's why i miss hobo as staff

#FreeHobo.

I see players sometimes kissing the admins backsides, and when it comes to not getting help, because the admins are busy helping somebody else (like 1 admin on). They go mad, and insult :S logic for you.

Also I never help a guy who drives into a water 50 times in 3 minutes. Learn to drive dude, I am not going to lose my mission for you.

Quote from: brane on July 30, 2013, 09:37
Also I never help a guy who drives into a water 50 times in 3 minutes. Learn to drive dude, I am not going to lose my mission for you.

The next time you know somebodys gonna get promoted, check and note their mission fails.

Then check again 2 months after staff position. Then tell  the rookies that drive the staff members sacrifice. I don't get why the obvious "icantdriveimanoob" people don't get that staff have rights to enjoy the server too. There's a few places that have got me: The little bridges on the way to SF bridge from LV, the narrow ones. The tunnel going into LS from Whetstone, and i was driving on train tracks and i fell off the bridge :P my own foolish mistakes. I've even paid moderators/admins for helping me before. As a sign of respect/thanks. If i do ask for help. I like to show my appreciation, and send thanks if i fail or not.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 10:03

Quote from: brane on July 30, 2013, 09:37
Also I never help a guy who drives into a water 50 times in 3 minutes. Learn to drive dude, I am not going to lose my mission for you.

The next time you know somebodys gonna get promoted, check and note their mission fails.

Then check again 2 months after staff position. Then tell  the rookies that drive the staff members sacrifice. I don't get why the obvious "icantdriveimanoob" people don't get that staff have rights to enjoy the server too. There's a few places that have got me: The little bridges on the way to SF bridge from LV, the narrow ones. The tunnel going into LS from Whetstone, and i was driving on train tracks and i fell off the bridge :P my own foolish mistakes. I've even paid moderators/admins for helping me before. As a sign of respect/thanks. If i do ask for help. I like to show my appreciation, and send thanks if i fail or not.

Also you know what the worst part? If they fall in water and you fail to save their mission, it is your fault... And then that makes me rage.

Quote from: brane on July 30, 2013, 10:42

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 10:03

Quote from: brane on July 30, 2013, 09:37
Also I never help a guy who drives into a water 50 times in 3 minutes. Learn to drive dude, I am not going to lose my mission for you.

The next time you know somebodys gonna get promoted, check and note their mission fails.

Then check again 2 months after staff position. Then tell  the rookies that drive the staff members sacrifice. I don't get why the obvious "icantdriveimanoob" people don't get that staff have rights to enjoy the server too. There's a few places that have got me: The little bridges on the way to SF bridge from LV, the narrow ones. The tunnel going into LS from Whetstone, and i was driving on train tracks and i fell off the bridge :P my own foolish mistakes. I've even paid moderators/admins for helping me before. As a sign of respect/thanks. If i do ask for help. I like to show my appreciation, and send thanks if i fail or not.

Also you know what the worst part? If they fall in water and you fail to save their mission, it is your fault... And then that makes me rage.

That's why it should be an unofficial rule. Drive into the water. Don't ask admins/mods to help.
Just a quick /spec from admins, get their location. If its not a location where there's never usually any nub divers. Just tell them via admin message, that they should learn how to drive.

Edit:

Rules:

8) Do not interrupt admins; do not PM them for no good reason. If you have anything urgent to report, use /admin or /report. Otherwise use forum; Do not ask admins for favours or ask general server questions in /admin. 

Wouldn't dragging somebody out of the water be breaking that?

lol my stats:
1900+ truckloads total
2100+ failed missions xD

I'm sure before i became moderator it was like
1800 truckloads total
and 1000 failed missions

When you are moderator you can't complete like 50'/. of the missions you start..
player need to start seeing this, and when they fail their mission (meaning 60sec gone) it's usually also for us 60seconds..
But no they start insulting us in their own shit language.
or even worse they say we abuse and we have no idea where we abuse..

it's pretty easy talking shit to us when you fail to drive and fall into the water..

most of those childish insulters, never got and are never going to get the chance to be moderator in any server.
simply because they don't have any idea how hard and annoying the job can be..

it should stop, because i don't feel like i'm playing ct for fun anymore with those fucking childs we have here.


But meh, the people who i mean won't read this and think i mean them..
Only players like shake dobby cobus sardarji and many many other good people know what i mean..
and those people are also the friendly players ingame, which never ever blamed admins when we weren't in time.

That's why I wouldn't like being a mod. Tbh, I'd love to help people. But why do it if 90% of them would just rage at you because they suck at driving and then reversing to attach the trailer? You lose your own mission to help them, but they still rage.


People are selfish and they don't thank the others for helping you when they can, if they can. It just makes me sad watching mods/admins helping some players and just watching players rage like fuck because mods aren't perfect. Fuckin' hell, I just wish they grew up and understand they were there to help you, not to fuck it up more and they shouldn't rage.

Quote from: Shake on July 30, 2013, 12:46
That's why I wouldn't like being a mod. Tbh, I'd love to help people. But why do it if 90% of them would just rage at you because they suck at driving and then reversing to attach the trailer? You lose your own mission to help them, but they still rage.


People are selfish and they don't thank the others for helping you when they can, if they can. It just makes me sad watching mods/admins helping some players and just watching players rage like fuck because mods aren't perfect. Fuckin' hell, I just wish they grew up and understand they were there to help you, not to fuck it up more and they shouldn't rage.

Thank you Shake for being on of those perfect friendly funny players we got :DD

Quote from: Madeon on July 30, 2013, 12:57

Quote from: Shake on July 30, 2013, 12:46
That's why I wouldn't like being a mod. Tbh, I'd love to help people. But why do it if 90% of them would just rage at you because they suck at driving and then reversing to attach the trailer? You lose your own mission to help them, but they still rage.


People are selfish and they don't thank the others for helping you when they can, if they can. It just makes me sad watching mods/admins helping some players and just watching players rage like fuck because mods aren't perfect. Fuckin' hell, I just wish they grew up and understand they were there to help you, not to fuck it up more and they shouldn't rage.

Thank you Shake for being on of those perfect friendly funny players we got :DD

Meh, no need to say thanks. Glad I'm one of those instead of being a rager.

Quote from: Shake on July 30, 2013, 12:59

Quote from: Madeon on July 30, 2013, 12:57

Quote from: Shake on July 30, 2013, 12:46
That's why I wouldn't like being a mod. Tbh, I'd love to help people. But why do it if 90% of them would just rage at you because they suck at driving and then reversing to attach the trailer? You lose your own mission to help them, but they still rage.


People are selfish and they don't thank the others for helping you when they can, if they can. It just makes me sad watching mods/admins helping some players and just watching players rage like fuck because mods aren't perfect. Fuckin' hell, I just wish they grew up and understand they were there to help you, not to fuck it up more and they shouldn't rage.

Thank you Shake for being on of those perfect friendly funny players we got :DD

Meh, no need to say thanks. Glad I'm one of those instead of being a rager.

I can make a list of 100+ players like you who are helpfully friendly and never mad.

Too bad for admins are the 10 people who waste all the fun for others, by spamming Romanian insults etc.
That's why we need to don't forget all the good awesome players we also have. :)

I totally dont agree with you guys..
I never saw a player start raging at me when I couldnt help him out.
You just have to answer in a kind way and they accept it and they say "np" and you shouldnt say that they have to shut up when they are raging on you.
As I have stated in my last reply here: the attitude from some staff members is wrong if they dont even want to help someone out just because you dont like him .. Live with it.. You are the mod and you have to show the right behaviour. Sometimes you have to work together with a guy you dont like.. That is also in real life.
If you cant deal with that, why you applied for mod then?
Mods have to work with every player, even if you dont like him.
If they keep insulting you, collect proof and punish him, problem solved.
Same situation for the normal player: if a staff member is busy with something, just wait till he has time. Dont like waiting? Then dont ask for help and try it yourself. Also you can post it on forum and explain the problem, so we can still help you out.
Keep in mind: staff members are also just humans, they cant fly or duplicate theirself .. Sometimes you have to be patience.
This is my opinion and you may (not) support it.

I am not putting a name but yesterday there was a BIG crash in low land island. I helped, 2/3 lost their mission but they all said thanks. It made me like ":o they said thanks even thought they lost mission, it's rare" but yes really happened and I am glad these guys still play here :D

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 29, 2013, 21:19

Quote from: TheSandman on July 29, 2013, 15:20
Admins arent as important ingame as they are on the forums, hence why there is only 4 of us lol. Theres less chance of seeing us.

I do hope you're not suggesting that admins are allowed less in game time?.

Nah its not that. Like when Joshy left CT the first time, doing reports and stuff, just makes you not want to go right when you finish.

It is a good feeling when you help someone, even if they fail, when they say thanks and/or no problem. Some faith in players restored.
A staff cleanup would be nice, after becoming staff, the feeling dies after 6 or so months. Some make the effort to keep themselves going, others can barely hold it, no names, but its fairly easy to tell.
You have to be lenient to people who are on holidays/school stuff etc, its real life, and real life is waaaaay more important than being a staff member on a gaming server.

This got way off topic from the "recent server upgrade" lol.

Quote from: TheSandman on July 30, 2013, 13:23

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 29, 2013, 21:19

Quote from: TheSandman on July 29, 2013, 15:20
Admins arent as important ingame as they are on the forums, hence why there is only 4 of us lol. Theres less chance of seeing us.

I do hope you're not suggesting that admins are allowed less in game time?.

Nah its not that. Like when Joshy left CT the first time, doing reports and stuff, just makes you not want to go right when you finish.
It is a good feeling when you help someone, even if they fail, when they say thanks and/or no problem. Some faith in players restored.
A staff cleanup would be nice, after becoming staff, the feeling dies after 6 or so months. Some make the effort to keep themselves going, others can barely hold it, no names, but its fairly easy to tell.
You have to be lenient to people who are on holidays/school stuff etc, its real life, and real life is waaaaay more important than being a staff member on a gaming server.
This got way off topic from the "recent server upgrade" lol.

I know what you mean. I get bored sometimes, so i check out stats of admins/mods :P just to be jelly.

I'll change the topic title since we're talking about all server related issues. I seem to be the only one thats come forward with my issues instead of raging in main chat about it.

I'd also appreciate that the people who voted posted the arguments for their decision. But seems like most of them don't do it.

Quote from: Shake on July 30, 2013, 13:28
I'd also appreciate that the people who voted posted the arguments for their decision. But seems like most of them don't do it.


Total Members Voted: 46


Yup. We have us some people that are quiet. They could at least say why they voted. Im sure it says it in the OP  ???

Quote from: Shake on July 30, 2013, 13:28
I'd also appreciate that the people who voted posted the arguments for their decision. But seems like most of them don't do it.

My opinion doesnt even matter.. Showed it twice.. None replied.. :p

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 14:18

Quote from: Shake on July 30, 2013, 13:28
I'd also appreciate that the people who voted posted the arguments for their decision. But seems like most of them don't do it.

My opinion doesnt even matter.. Showed it twice.. None replied.. :p

I've read it :)

I voted: Unsure
The reason i did this is because the gamemode is done for me, i got all stuff i wanted to reach.
But what keeps me coming online are the people, if convoytrucking was a black screen with this chat.
then i would still enter it lol.
specially when rafe dobby etc are online, that's why i love ct.

Things really need some change,
Mick is busy irl, hopefully he can find someone to take over the CT job.
And if we ever get someone that can also make new scripts maybe 3 new /work jobs would be great.

But these are only wishes. We all have summer now so most of us are now active.
I'm not sure what happends when school starts again.
But anyways as long as ct lives, we can have some fun. :)

Quote from: Madeon on July 30, 2013, 14:41
I voted: Unsure
The reason i did this is because the gamemode is done for me, i got all stuff i wanted to reach.
But what keeps me coming online are the people, if convoytrucking was a black screen with this chat.
then i would still enter it lol.
specially when rafe dobby etc are online, that's why i love ct.

Things really need some change,
Mick is busy irl, hopefully he can find someone to take over the CT job.
And if we ever get someone that can also make new scripts maybe 3 new /work jobs would be great.

But these are only wishes. We all have summer now so most of us are now active.
I'm not sure what happends when school starts again.
But anyways as long as ct lives, we can have some fun. :)

I'd like to see a "fire engine" job. Seeing as there's public fire engines, and its possible to do so. But we can't suggest jobs. Or anything for that matter. Possibly a new class, "Sailor" or something along them lines, possibly tie it in with chauffer class. "Bring tourists from Basyside marina to Las Venturas dock" or something.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 14:46

Quote from: Madeon on July 30, 2013, 14:41
I voted: Unsure
The reason i did this is because the gamemode is done for me, i got all stuff i wanted to reach.
But what keeps me coming online are the people, if convoytrucking was a black screen with this chat.
then i would still enter it lol.
specially when rafe dobby etc are online, that's why i love ct.

Things really need some change,
Mick is busy irl, hopefully he can find someone to take over the CT job.
And if we ever get someone that can also make new scripts maybe 3 new /work jobs would be great.

But these are only wishes. We all have summer now so most of us are now active.
I'm not sure what happends when school starts again.
But anyways as long as ct lives, we can have some fun. :)

I'd like to see a "fire engine" job. Seeing as there's public fire engines, and its possible to do so. But we can't suggest jobs. Or anything for that matter. Possibly a new class, "Sailor" or something along them lines, possibly tie it in with chauffer class. "Bring tourists from Basyside marina to Las Venturas dock" or something.

Mission cars:
-firetruck
-ambulance
-all kind off boats aren't used yet
-tractor xD
-mower
-baggage truck :D

pretty much funny things are still not added haha :)

we can post it here since this whole topic turned into a dream list topic? :D

Quote from: Madeon on July 30, 2013, 15:07
Mission cars:
-firetruck
-ambulance
-all kind off boats aren't used yet
-tractor xD
-mower
-baggage truck :D

pretty much funny things are still not added haha :)

we can post it here since this whole topic turned into a dream list topic? :D

And also pizza delivery :P

Quote from: Madeon on July 30, 2013, 15:07

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 14:46

Quote from: Madeon on July 30, 2013, 14:41
I voted: Unsure
The reason i did this is because the gamemode is done for me, i got all stuff i wanted to reach.
But what keeps me coming online are the people, if convoytrucking was a black screen with this chat.
then i would still enter it lol.
specially when rafe dobby etc are online, that's why i love ct.

Things really need some change,
Mick is busy irl, hopefully he can find someone to take over the CT job.
And if we ever get someone that can also make new scripts maybe 3 new /work jobs would be great.

But these are only wishes. We all have summer now so most of us are now active.
I'm not sure what happends when school starts again.
But anyways as long as ct lives, we can have some fun. :)

I'd like to see a "fire engine" job. Seeing as there's public fire engines, and its possible to do so. But we can't suggest jobs. Or anything for that matter. Possibly a new class, "Sailor" or something along them lines, possibly tie it in with chauffer class. "Bring tourists from Basyside marina to Las Venturas dock" or something.

Mission cars:
-firetruck
-ambulance
-all kind off boats aren't used yet
-tractor xD
-mower
-baggage truck :D

pretty much funny things are still not added haha :)

we can post it here since this whole topic turned into a dream list topic? :D

Im thinking in my head. They're all possible too. With a bit of tweaking/copying/pasting, mick could probably create the missions. I say copying and pasting because he could probably rename enums & stocks he currently has inside the GM. I'm almost tempted to script it for him.

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 13:05
I totally dont agree with you guys..
I never saw a player start raging at me when I couldnt help him out.
You just have to answer in a kind way and they accept it and they say "np" and you shouldnt say that they have to shut up when they are raging on you.
As I have stated in my last reply here: the attitude from some staff members is wrong if they dont even want to help someone out just because you dont like him .. Live with it.. You are the mod and you have to show the right behaviour. Sometimes you have to work together with a guy you dont like.. That is also in real life.
If you cant deal with that, why you applied for mod then?
Mods have to work with every player, even if you dont like him.
If they keep insulting you, collect proof and punish him, problem solved.
Same situation for the normal player: if a staff member is busy with something, just wait till he has time. Dont like waiting? Then dont ask for help and try it yourself. Also you can post it on forum and explain the problem, so we can still help you out.
Keep in mind: staff members are also just humans, they cant fly or duplicate theirself .. Sometimes you have to be patience.
This is my opinion and you may (not) support it.

You're not even that active, and I'm not talking about right now, given you're on vacation. You weren't that active when I was admin either.

100 Slots are not really needed now, people recognized server went from 100 to 50 slots and gave up trying to join. Now that its at 100 slots back, not everyone saw it, noticed yet. I think that if you decrease it to 70 - 84 it will be better as the peak i recently saw is about 60 players, and when you notice the server is running out of slots then you increase it back to 100, just like you did in the past mick :D

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 13:05
I totally dont agree with you guys..
I never saw a player start raging at me when I couldnt help him out.
You just have to answer in a kind way and they accept it and they say "np" and you shouldnt say that they have to shut up when they are raging on you.
As I have stated in my last reply here: the attitude from some staff members is wrong if they dont even want to help someone out just because you dont like him .. Live with it.. You are the mod and you have to show the right behaviour. Sometimes you have to work together with a guy you dont like.. That is also in real life.
If you cant deal with that, why you applied for mod then?
Mods have to work with every player, even if you dont like him.
If they keep insulting you, collect proof and punish him, problem solved.
Same situation for the normal player: if a staff member is busy with something, just wait till he has time. Dont like waiting? Then dont ask for help and try it yourself. Also you can post it on forum and explain the problem, so we can still help you out.
Keep in mind: staff members are also just humans, they cant fly or duplicate theirself .. Sometimes you have to be patience.
This is my opinion and you may (not) support it.

Haha,

start with yourself.

Quote from: SuperGoof on July 30, 2013, 18:43

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 13:05
I totally dont agree with you guys..
I never saw a player start raging at me when I couldnt help him out.
You just have to answer in a kind way and they accept it and they say "np" and you shouldnt say that they have to shut up when they are raging on you.
As I have stated in my last reply here: the attitude from some staff members is wrong if they dont even want to help someone out just because you dont like him .. Live with it.. You are the mod and you have to show the right behaviour. Sometimes you have to work together with a guy you dont like.. That is also in real life.
If you cant deal with that, why you applied for mod then?
Mods have to work with every player, even if you dont like him.
If they keep insulting you, collect proof and punish him, problem solved.
Same situation for the normal player: if a staff member is busy with something, just wait till he has time. Dont like waiting? Then dont ask for help and try it yourself. Also you can post it on forum and explain the problem, so we can still help you out.
Keep in mind: staff members are also just humans, they cant fly or duplicate theirself .. Sometimes you have to be patience.
This is my opinion and you may (not) support it.

Haha,

start with yourself.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 28, 2013, 22:32
No flaming, and keep it clean.

Please, stop.

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 13:05
I totally dont agree with you guys..
I never saw a player start raging at me when I couldnt help him out. maybe because you never ignored/trashed other players, so you never got raged
You just have to answer in a kind way and they accept it and they say "np" and you shouldnt say that they have to shut up when they are raging on you. be nice and players will be nice for you
As I have stated in my last reply here: the attitude from some staff members is wrong if they dont even want to help someone out just because you dont like him .. Live with it.. You are the mod and you have to show the right behaviour. Sometimes you have to work together with a guy you dont like.. That is also in real life.
If you cant deal with that, why you applied for mod then? <- this right here, why player applied for mod and dont help players?
Mods have to work with every player, even if you dont like him.
If they keep insulting you, collect proof and punish him, problem solved. true if not provoked or help refused (players have the right to rage when staff wont help them or even make it worse)
Same situation for the normal player: if a staff member is busy with something, just wait till he has time. Dont like waiting? Then dont ask for help and try it yourself. Also you can post it on forum and explain the problem, so we can still help you out.
Keep in mind: staff members are also just humans, they cant fly or duplicate theirself .. Sometimes you have to be patience.
This is my opinion and you may (not) support it.

Quote from: Terrorista310 on July 30, 2013, 19:08

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 13:05
I totally dont agree with you guys..
I never saw a player start raging at me when I couldnt help him out. maybe because you never ignored/trashed other players, so you never got raged
You just have to answer in a kind way and they accept it and they say "np" and you shouldnt say that they have to shut up when they are raging on you. be nice and players will be nice for you
As I have stated in my last reply here: the attitude from some staff members is wrong if they dont even want to help someone out just because you dont like him .. Live with it.. You are the mod and you have to show the right behaviour. Sometimes you have to work together with a guy you dont like.. That is also in real life.
If you cant deal with that, why you applied for mod then? <- this right here, why player applied for mod and dont help players?
Mods have to work with every player, even if you dont like him.
If they keep insulting you, collect proof and punish him, problem solved. true if not provoked or help refused (players have the right to rage when staff wont help them or even make it worse)
Same situation for the normal player: if a staff member is busy with something, just wait till he has time. Dont like waiting? Then dont ask for help and try it yourself. Also you can post it on forum and explain the problem, so we can still help you out.
Keep in mind: staff members are also just humans, they cant fly or duplicate theirself .. Sometimes you have to be patience.
This is my opinion and you may (not) support it.

To a certain degree terror. You have every right to be annoyed. But don't go over the top.

There's plenty of players with mod potention (from my POV). Unfortunately, there's only like 5 active moderators out of like what? 20?

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I've been able to notice a slight improvement in overall server stability (less lag spikes mainly) when there are up to 60 players online. Also, chat lag can occur but that doesn't happen very often.
So far, so good.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 19:12

Quote from: Terrorista310 on July 30, 2013, 19:08

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 13:05
I totally dont agree with you guys..
I never saw a player start raging at me when I couldnt help him out. maybe because you never ignored/trashed other players, so you never got raged
You just have to answer in a kind way and they accept it and they say "np" and you shouldnt say that they have to shut up when they are raging on you. be nice and players will be nice for you
As I have stated in my last reply here: the attitude from some staff members is wrong if they dont even want to help someone out just because you dont like him .. Live with it.. You are the mod and you have to show the right behaviour. Sometimes you have to work together with a guy you dont like.. That is also in real life.
If you cant deal with that, why you applied for mod then? <- this right here, why player applied for mod and dont help players?
Mods have to work with every player, even if you dont like him.
If they keep insulting you, collect proof and punish him, problem solved. true if not provoked or help refused (players have the right to rage when staff wont help them or even make it worse)
Same situation for the normal player: if a staff member is busy with something, just wait till he has time. Dont like waiting? Then dont ask for help and try it yourself. Also you can post it on forum and explain the problem, so we can still help you out.
Keep in mind: staff members are also just humans, they cant fly or duplicate theirself .. Sometimes you have to be patience.
This is my opinion and you may (not) support it.

To a certain degree terror. You have every right to be annoyed. But don't go over the top.

There's plenty of players with mod potention (from my POV). Unfortunately, there's only like 5 active moderators out of like what? 20?

true, we need good, friendly mods, not players who never got a warning and kiss staff ass.

Quote from: Sveki on July 30, 2013, 19:18
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I've been able to notice a slight improvement in overall server stability (less lag spikes mainly) when there are up to 60 players online. Also, chat lag can occur but that doesn't happen very often.
So far, so good.

Choo choo train :o

We've been more or less on topic. Thus, why i've changed the topic title. Its to address the server issues all in one go, insted of 1337 topics about the same thing. Fortunately, TheSandman and Ethan have been nice enough to let us discuss it.

@Terror. I've never got a warning. What are you suggesting? The people that get warnings deserve them. Me, yes i say what's on my mind. But i usually make sure its correct and following rules before i hit the enter key.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 19:21

@Terror. I've never got a warning. What are you suggesting? The people that get warnings deserve them. Me, yes i say what's on my mind. But i usually make sure its correct and following rules before i hit the enter key.

i was talking about some players in the past, since i'm not ig now i cant see who kiss ass or gets warned

Quote from: Terrorista310 on July 30, 2013, 19:27

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 19:21

@Terror. I've never got a warning. What are you suggesting? The people that get warnings deserve them. Me, yes i say what's on my mind. But i usually make sure its correct and following rules before i hit the enter key.

i was talking about some players in the past, since i'm not ig now i cant see who kiss ass or gets warned

You kiss(ed) Konali's ass and you got warned, a lot. So, you're both.

dont pruvoke or i will raport

Quote from: Terrorista310 on July 30, 2013, 19:27

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 19:21
@Terror. I've never got a warning. What are you suggesting? The people that get warnings deserve them. Me, yes i say what's on my mind. But i usually make sure its correct and following rules before i hit the enter key.

i was talking about some players in the past, since i'm not ig now i cant see who kiss ass or gets warned

Maybe if you kept it down low, and followed what i said above. You'll be back in game, and hopefully to a better server.

@Everyone else. Mick's active on the forum so hopefully, he's going to let us discuss this maturely. Plus, hopefully he's taking notes, and considering what we're discussing. :)

@Hobo. Leave ass kissing out of it pls. Or i wont #FreeHobo ;) i've been tempted to shout out ass kissers. But i don't.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 19:32

Quote from: Terrorista310 on July 30, 2013, 19:27

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 30, 2013, 19:21
@Terror. I've never got a warning. What are you suggesting? The people that get warnings deserve them. Me, yes i say what's on my mind. But i usually make sure its correct and following rules before i hit the enter key.

i was talking about some players in the past, since i'm not ig now i cant see who kiss ass or gets warned

Maybe if you kept it down low, and followed what i said above. You'll be back in game, and hopefully to a better server.

i would be ig xD but not to a better server xD

It's kay, he deleted his reply.

Quote from: Hobo on July 30, 2013, 17:55

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 13:05
I totally dont agree with you guys..
I never saw a player start raging at me when I couldnt help him out.
You just have to answer in a kind way and they accept it and they say "np" and you shouldnt say that they have to shut up when they are raging on you.
As I have stated in my last reply here: the attitude from some staff members is wrong if they dont even want to help someone out just because you dont like him .. Live with it.. You are the mod and you have to show the right behaviour. Sometimes you have to work together with a guy you dont like.. That is also in real life.
If you cant deal with that, why you applied for mod then?
Mods have to work with every player, even if you dont like him.
If they keep insulting you, collect proof and punish him, problem solved.
Same situation for the normal player: if a staff member is busy with something, just wait till he has time. Dont like waiting? Then dont ask for help and try it yourself. Also you can post it on forum and explain the problem, so we can still help you out.
Keep in mind: staff members are also just humans, they cant fly or duplicate theirself .. Sometimes you have to be patience.
This is my opinion and you may (not) support it.

You're not even that active, and I'm not talking about right now, given you're on vacation. You weren't that active when I was admin either.

Can say the same about you .. Never seen you on that often when you were admin/mod.. Main reason .. Other timezones.. So please dont think you are the active Guy here..
@goof, you are the Guy who is provoking me and got punished for that,so better change your attitude and be normal.

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 20:42

Quote from: Hobo on July 30, 2013, 17:55

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 13:05
I totally dont agree with you guys..
I never saw a player start raging at me when I couldnt help him out.
You just have to answer in a kind way and they accept it and they say "np" and you shouldnt say that they have to shut up when they are raging on you.
As I have stated in my last reply here: the attitude from some staff members is wrong if they dont even want to help someone out just because you dont like him .. Live with it.. You are the mod and you have to show the right behaviour. Sometimes you have to work together with a guy you dont like.. That is also in real life.
If you cant deal with that, why you applied for mod then?
Mods have to work with every player, even if you dont like him.
If they keep insulting you, collect proof and punish him, problem solved.
Same situation for the normal player: if a staff member is busy with something, just wait till he has time. Dont like waiting? Then dont ask for help and try it yourself. Also you can post it on forum and explain the problem, so we can still help you out.
Keep in mind: staff members are also just humans, they cant fly or duplicate theirself .. Sometimes you have to be patience.
This is my opinion and you may (not) support it.

You're not even that active, and I'm not talking about right now, given you're on vacation. You weren't that active when I was admin either.

Can say the same about you .. Never seen you on that often when you were admin/mod.. Main reason .. Other timezones.. So please dont think you are the active Guy here..

Admins have access to a list showing who is active and who isn't.

cool, how no-life am i hobo? xD


even more off topic:
[hide=]I LOVE :
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Quote from: Hobo on July 30, 2013, 21:11

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 20:42

Quote from: Hobo on July 30, 2013, 17:55

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 13:05
I totally dont agree with you guys..
I never saw a player start raging at me when I couldnt help him out.
You just have to answer in a kind way and they accept it and they say "np" and you shouldnt say that they have to shut up when they are raging on you.
As I have stated in my last reply here: the attitude from some staff members is wrong if they dont even want to help someone out just because you dont like him .. Live with it.. You are the mod and you have to show the right behaviour. Sometimes you have to work together with a guy you dont like.. That is also in real life.
If you cant deal with that, why you applied for mod then?
Mods have to work with every player, even if you dont like him.
If they keep insulting you, collect proof and punish him, problem solved.
Same situation for the normal player: if a staff member is busy with something, just wait till he has time. Dont like waiting? Then dont ask for help and try it yourself. Also you can post it on forum and explain the problem, so we can still help you out.
Keep in mind: staff members are also just humans, they cant fly or duplicate theirself .. Sometimes you have to be patience.
This is my opinion and you may (not) support it.

You're not even that active, and I'm not talking about right now, given you're on vacation. You weren't that active when I was admin either.

Can say the same about you .. Never seen you on that often when you were admin/mod.. Main reason .. Other timezones.. So please dont think you are the active Guy here..

Admins have access to a list showing who is active and who isn't.

Guess you are also on the inactive list then .. 1 hour a day is enough so ..
Im sure I play atleast 7 Hours a week .. Even more.. So .. Active..
Dont think Im inactive.. I play already 3 years..

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 21:41

Quote from: Hobo on July 30, 2013, 21:11

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 20:42

Quote from: Hobo on July 30, 2013, 17:55

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 13:05
I totally dont agree with you guys..
I never saw a player start raging at me when I couldnt help him out.
You just have to answer in a kind way and they accept it and they say "np" and you shouldnt say that they have to shut up when they are raging on you.
As I have stated in my last reply here: the attitude from some staff members is wrong if they dont even want to help someone out just because you dont like him .. Live with it.. You are the mod and you have to show the right behaviour. Sometimes you have to work together with a guy you dont like.. That is also in real life.
If you cant deal with that, why you applied for mod then?
Mods have to work with every player, even if you dont like him.
If they keep insulting you, collect proof and punish him, problem solved.
Same situation for the normal player: if a staff member is busy with something, just wait till he has time. Dont like waiting? Then dont ask for help and try it yourself. Also you can post it on forum and explain the problem, so we can still help you out.
Keep in mind: staff members are also just humans, they cant fly or duplicate theirself .. Sometimes you have to be patience.
This is my opinion and you may (not) support it.

You're not even that active, and I'm not talking about right now, given you're on vacation. You weren't that active when I was admin either.

Can say the same about you .. Never seen you on that often when you were admin/mod.. Main reason .. Other timezones.. So please dont think you are the active Guy here..

Admins have access to a list showing who is active and who isn't.

Guess you are also on the inactive list then .. 1 hour a day is enough so ..
Im sure I play atleast 7 Hours a week .. Even more.. So .. Active..
Dont think Im inactive.. I play already 3 years..

I'm not staff so my activity doesn't matter.

Not including "Time played". you should never have to bring it into a discussion TG. Plus, you're not an admin, you shouldn't know or even reveal stuff like that. Even if he was.

You play "7 hours a week". That's one hour a day, i half expected more online time if you were mod. Or are you bored here too?.

By the way zwart :P stay on topic. Or you'll be pink'd.

D: - Madeon

Wanna know the thruth?
Yes, cvt is getting boring after 3 years.. no updates, people are fking up the community.. I miss the old great times without trolls and other annoying people.
I am no longer having fun here and I'm thinking of leaving but I decide that after I come back from holidays.
For now, cya in 1,5 weeks.

this was originally a topic about the recent server upgrade, now its turned into rage wars, topic closed tyvm

Quote from: TheGame on July 30, 2013, 21:54
Wanna know the thruth?
Yes, cvt is getting boring after 3 years.. no updates, people are fking up the community.. I miss the old great times without trolls and other annoying people.
I am no longer having fun here and I'm thinking of leaving but I decide that after I come back from holidays.
For now, cya in 1,5 weeks.

That's what the topic is about :) i understand what you mean about people messing the community up. Convoys have become races to finish. Achievements have become people's main interests. I for one, don't like achievements or money. I like the community. Derping around with Shake,Brane, Cobus, Ethan, Matias,Hobo, kv100 the list goes on.

I had a huge lag spike tonight, 20 seconds worth of it. http://www.xfire.com/video/609a16 before you say anything, i did log off. But i never used to have issues like this. See my suggestion i've made to counter issues like this.

@Ethan i've requested this topic unlocked again. If you see anything related to "rage wars" feel free to edit/remove their comment. Or just wait for me to see it and request it removed. Thanks.

Continue discussion guys...

A few minutes ago, Brane asked me to check if his mods lagged. The server was lagging so much that I couldn't understand if his mods were laggy or he was lagging due to the server.


With these 100 slots, the host can BARELY handle the server, and we rarely go over 70 players. I'd assume 75 players (for now) would be a good thing until we get a better host (if we get it anytime soon, which I don't think we will)

Thats what i suggested before, if mick can lower the max players to around 70, because thats the max players i saw. And actually when CT was a new server, it raised its slots slowly till reach 100.

I found a video what Konali made about the lag in 2011. Right now we have same thing, or atleast i have.

Quote from: Konali on October 01, 2011, 14:51[xfire](http://video.xfire.com/4e605c-4.jpg) (http://www.xfire.com/video/4e605c/)[/xfire]

That's more or less the way it is now. People appearing in front one second, the next. they hit you. Then you get the damn blame for it. .__.

I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for the lag, we'd have more players, and they would be more active.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 31, 2013, 17:21
I like the community. Derping around with Shake, Cobus, Ethan, Matias,Hobo, kv100 the list goes on.

Not me  :Sad_Okay:

Quote from: brane on July 31, 2013, 18:24

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 31, 2013, 17:21
I like the community. Derping around with Shake, Cobus, Ethan, Matias,Hobo, kv100 the list goes on.

Not me  :Sad_Okay:

I like hanging out with you, don't worry.

Quote from: Shake on July 31, 2013, 18:28

Quote from: brane on July 31, 2013, 18:24

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on July 31, 2013, 17:21
I like the community. Derping around with Shake,Brane, Cobus, Ethan, Matias,Hobo, kv100 the list goes on.

Not me  :Sad_Okay:

I like hanging out with you, don't worry.

His names there :D

I think if there was next to no lag, barely anyone desyncing, we'd have the top trucking server back.

Nothing can bring back the awesomeness of the 2010 CT. I havent been on in a while but from what I hear, the community has changed. Nobody convoys any more? If you want to fix the server, I dont think its about gamemode updates...its about community updates. Im not sure how the community has gone down hill, but it has. So how can the community be fixed? How about HELPING newbies, not reporting them for every little damn thing they do? Improving the community starts with everyone here. They must make a true effort to make it better. So, help a newbie...start a large convoy...cut out the petty bickering...and for fucks sake, lighten up on staff. They have enough things to worry about without all the senseless reports and accusations...

ok dobby, you get one last chance to keep this topic on the original topic, otherwise I wont open it again... the bullshit that people are talking about is not about what you originally made  this topic about, so here you go.

Quote from: Rubber on July 31, 2013, 20:35
Nothing can bring back the awesomeness of the 2010 CT. I havent been on in a while but from what I hear, the community has changed. Nobody convoys any more? If you want to fix the server, I dont think its about gamemode updates...its about community updates. Im not sure how the community has gone down hill, but it has. So how can the community be fixed? How about HELPING newbies, not reporting them for every little damn thing they do? Improving the community starts with everyone here. They must make a true effort to make it better. So, help a newbie...start a large convoy...cut out the petty bickering...and for fucks sake, lighten up on staff. They have enough things to worry about without all the senseless reports and accusations...

I'm all for helping newbies. But they should still read the rules before playing. If they break em, they will get reported by me. Its the convoys that attracted me to this server to begin with. But gradually, convoys stopped being fun, because they turned into a race. Last week, i saw somebody ask if the convoy leader could slow down. He ignored him :|

My suggestion/counter to this, make some form of distance check. If the leader is a set distance from the last player. Freeze him, until the slowest catches up. Obviously with a heading angle, location, speed check in place.

I have no need to lighten up on the staff personally, but i get what you mean. "OMG Admen why you no halp my my crash into water and boom my fail!!!11231!" is the typical rage response. As many people say, they should learn to drive, and respect admins. Without you admins/moderators, the server would be chaos. That, or Smokey sitting there being greedy.

Quote from: Ethan on July 31, 2013, 20:43
ok dobby, you get one last chance to keep this topic on the original topic, otherwise I wont open it again... the bullshit that people are talking about is not about what you originally made  this topic about, so here you go.

^ Listen to the guy. If you go off topic, ill report you. This is "Server related" for a reason :)

Thanks for unlocking again admins :)

The server do not reach 75 players, so why decrease slots to 75?

Really slots is just a number, server maybe be laggy if it has 100/100 players online...

If server has 45/50 players online would be the same lag as 45/100

Quote from: iRedDawn on August 01, 2013, 03:42
The server do not reach 75 players, so why decrease slots to 75?

Really slots is just a number, server maybe be laggy if it has 100/100 players online...

If server has 45/50 players online would be the same lag as 45/100

The reason being, if players see 100 slots. The said players will join. Thus, creating more lag.

This falls under the category of "server issues".

I was online again tonight and the only staff online was ==none== and he is just plain awful. There were idling / ramming cops and vehicles in the road.

Inactive staff should step down and let more active players be staff. A summer cleaning is in order.
Let me put it this way, people have more time to play video games in the summer rather than during the school year. If staff inactivity is this high now, just wait until the end of August/start of September.

Quote from: Hobo on August 01, 2013, 05:12
This falls under the category of "server issues".

I was online again tonight and the only staff online was ==none== and he is just plain awful. There were idling / ramming cops and vehicles in the road.

Inactive staff should step down and let more active players be staff. A summer cleaning is in order.
Let me put it this way, people have more time to play video games in the summer rather than during the school year. If staff inactivity is this high now, just wait until the end of August/start of September.

It seems the amazing ==none== was asleep :o . I know a couple of staff i'd recommend to stand down. But i'm not gonna name them. As you said, they should step down, and let the more active players be staff, the ones that spend hours upon hours each day helping people. Instead of the ones i see flying in their rustlers ignoring /a messages. Fair enough people have vacation, but like 4 staff are active out of the rest. It's been that way for over two weeks. Maybe more.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 01, 2013, 05:29

Quote from: Hobo on August 01, 2013, 05:12
This falls under the category of "server issues".

I was online again tonight and the only staff online was ==none== and he is just plain awful. There were idling / ramming cops and vehicles in the road.

Inactive staff should step down and let more active players be staff. A summer cleaning is in order.
Let me put it this way, people have more time to play video games in the summer rather than during the school year. If staff inactivity is this high now, just wait until the end of August/start of September.

It seems the amazing ==none== was asleep :o . I know a couple of staff i'd recommend to stand down. But i'm not gonna name them. As you said, they should step down, and let the more active players be staff, the ones that spend hours upon hours each day helping people. Instead of the ones i see flying in their rustlers ignoring /a messages. Fair enough people have vacation, but like 4 staff are active out of the rest. It's been that way for over two weeks. Maybe more.

if staff or players find no reason to play cvt, they will do other stuff




cvt as become boring for everyone, the thing is, staff dont idle, they are waiting for reasons to play cvt, like updates and new types of missions.


ofc there are some staff that should resign..

Quote from: Terrorista310 on August 01, 2013, 06:27

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 01, 2013, 05:29

Quote from: Hobo on August 01, 2013, 05:12
This falls under the category of "server issues".

I was online again tonight and the only staff online was ==none== and he is just plain awful. There were idling / ramming cops and vehicles in the road.

Inactive staff should step down and let more active players be staff. A summer cleaning is in order.
Let me put it this way, people have more time to play video games in the summer rather than during the school year. If staff inactivity is this high now, just wait until the end of August/start of September.

It seems the amazing ==none== was asleep :o . I know a couple of staff i'd recommend to stand down. But i'm not gonna name them. As you said, they should step down, and let the more active players be staff, the ones that spend hours upon hours each day helping people. Instead of the ones i see flying in their rustlers ignoring /a messages. Fair enough people have vacation, but like 4 staff are active out of the rest. It's been that way for over two weeks. Maybe more.

if staff or players find no reason to play cvt, they will do other stuff




cvt as become boring for everyone, the thing is, staff dont idle, they are waiting for reasons to play cvt, like updates and new types of missions.


ofc there are some staff that should resign..

it's not boring sir, everything is perfect. Too many kids now and community is fucked up.
And about staffs, we need more from S/N America or from GMT+8,  every morning of mine there are none staff online for hours
Too many European staffs and 75 % are inactive. If they think they can't handle the noobs just resign don't take others chances
Don't talk about new missions if you haven't done 17 achievements, finish first then complain

Quote from: Rahail on August 01, 2013, 07:27

Quote from: Terrorista310 on August 01, 2013, 06:27

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 01, 2013, 05:29

Quote from: Hobo on August 01, 2013, 05:12
This falls under the category of "server issues".

I was online again tonight and the only staff online was ==none== and he is just plain awful. There were idling / ramming cops and vehicles in the road.

Inactive staff should step down and let more active players be staff. A summer cleaning is in order.
Let me put it this way, people have more time to play video games in the summer rather than during the school year. If staff inactivity is this high now, just wait until the end of August/start of September.

It seems the amazing ==none== was asleep :o . I know a couple of staff i'd recommend to stand down. But i'm not gonna name them. As you said, they should step down, and let the more active players be staff, the ones that spend hours upon hours each day helping people. Instead of the ones i see flying in their rustlers ignoring /a messages. Fair enough people have vacation, but like 4 staff are active out of the rest. It's been that way for over two weeks. Maybe more.

if staff or players find no reason to play cvt, they will do other stuff




cvt as become boring for everyone, the thing is, staff dont idle, they are waiting for reasons to play cvt, like updates and new types of missions.


ofc there are some staff that should resign..

it's not boring sir, everything is perfect. Too many kids now or behave like them.
And about staffs, we need more from S/N America or from GMT+8,  every morning of mine there are none staff online for hours
Too many European staffs and 75 % are inactive. If they think they can't handle the them just resign don't take others chances

Agreed. It seems like the american time zone has always been understaffed. Then again, it is usually the time when the least amount of people are on. With hobo off the list, it is a huge setback. Now if only we knew someone from the american time zone who wants to be a staff member...

@Rubber
There are many great players we can choose from, but should be active. Like me  :P
Or you can apply again when you'll be back

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Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 01, 2013, 05:29

Quote from: Hobo on August 01, 2013, 05:12
This falls under the category of "server issues".

I was online again tonight and the only staff online was ==none== and he is just plain awful. There were idling / ramming cops and vehicles in the road.

Inactive staff should step down and let more active players be staff. A summer cleaning is in order.
Let me put it this way, people have more time to play video games in the summer rather than during the school year. If staff inactivity is this high now, just wait until the end of August/start of September.

It seems the amazing ==none== was asleep :o . I know a couple of staff i'd recommend to stand down. But i'm not gonna name them. As you said, they should step down, and let the more active players be staff, the ones that spend hours upon hours each day helping people. Instead of the ones i see flying in their rustlers ignoring /a messages. Fair enough people have vacation, but like 4 staff are active out of the rest. It's been that way for over two weeks. Maybe more.

if staff or players find no reason to play cvt, they will do other stuff




cvt as become boring for everyone, the thing is, staff dont idle, they are waiting for reasons to play cvt, like updates and new types of missions.


ofc there are some staff that should resign..

it's not boring sir, everything is perfect. Too many kids now or behave like them.
And about staffs, we need more from S/N America or from GMT+8,  every morning of mine there are none staff online for hours
Too many European staffs and 75 % are inactive. If they think they can't handle the them just resign don't take others chances

Agreed. It seems like the american time zone has always been understaffed. Then again, it is usually the time when the least amount of people are on. With hobo off the list, it is a huge setback. Now if only we knew someone from the american time zone who wants to be a staff member...

In my opinion, Admins/moderators should PM players and ask them to name somone off the top of their heads, who they would nominate for moderator. At least then, the players get some form of input :)

Most of the european staff are inactive/on vacation. My timezone: GMT. Timezone for me means nothing really. I spend most of my day on CT so i get to see the ins/outs of it all. I wish i had a sleeping pattern :P

Just checked staffs stats, 75% have played less than 7 hours in 7 days.
3 or 4 staffs played like 20 hours or a bit less.

I hope admins take this topic / conversation into serious consideration.. It's quiet evident that something needs to be done, but in the end it's not up to players..

Quote from: Rahail on August 01, 2013, 07:51
Just checked staffs stats, 75% have played less than 7 hours in 7 days.
3 or 4 staffs played like 20 hours or a bit less.

Can I just add something to this, it's summer. I don't know how many influence this has  but it has some.

Quote from: Supreme on August 01, 2013, 08:16

Quote from: Rahail on August 01, 2013, 07:51
Just checked staffs stats, 75% have played less than 7 hours in 7 days.
3 or 4 staffs played like 20 hours or a bit less.

Can I just add something to this, it's summer. I don't know how many influence this has  but it has some.

That's a good point.. Meaning this will become more momentous as the summer ends and the new school year begins..

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Quote from: Supreme on August 01, 2013, 08:16

Quote from: Rahail on August 01, 2013, 07:51
Just checked staffs stats, 75% have played less than 7 hours in 7 days.
3 or 4 staffs played like 20 hours or a bit less.

Can I just add something to this, it's summer. I don't know how many influence this has  but it has some.

That's a good point.. Meaning this will become more momentous as the summer ends and the new school year begins..

Summer = more time to play so come end of August/start of Spetember, that small activity will likely drop even more.

Quote from: Hobo on August 01, 2013, 15:41
Summer = more time to play so come end of August/start of September, that small activity will likely drop even more.

only point that needs to be made

"Summer staff clean" sounds more like a title for an ad... XDD

CT Summer Sale, put your hates towards staff and get a position at staff team, only for today!

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 01, 2013, 07:43

In my opinion, Admins/moderators should PM players and ask them to name somone off the top of their heads, who they would nominate for moderator. At least then, the players get some form of input :)

It doesn't depends on players, neither moderators, only admins chooses whoever they want to be moderator.

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Quote from: Supreme on August 01, 2013, 08:16

Quote from: Rahail on August 01, 2013, 07:51
Just checked staffs stats, 75% have played less than 7 hours in 7 days.
3 or 4 staffs played like 20 hours or a bit less.

Can I just add something to this, it's summer. I don't know how many influence this has  but it has some.

That's a good point.. Meaning this will become more momentous as the summer ends and the new school year begins..

Summer = more time to play so come end of August/start of Spetember, that small activity will likely drop even more.

Duh, its summer, most people takes holidays from school, life, and etc.
You cant spec someone to be 24/7 on a server just because its holidays and hes not at school or working.
Its in winters time when people stick to their house and when they find they are bored they use the pc much more.

Quote from: Matias. on August 01, 2013, 16:15
CT Summer Sale, put your hates towards staff and get a position at staff team, only for today!

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 01, 2013, 07:43

In my opinion, Admins/moderators should PM players and ask them to name somone off the top of their heads, who they would nominate for moderator. At least then, the players get some form of input :)

It doesn't depends on players, neither moderators, only admins chooses whoever they want to be moderator.

Quote from: Hobo on August 01, 2013, 15:41

Quote from: BX95 on August 01, 2013, 08:32

Quote from: Supreme on August 01, 2013, 08:16

Quote from: Rahail on August 01, 2013, 07:51
Just checked staffs stats, 75% have played less than 7 hours in 7 days.
3 or 4 staffs played like 20 hours or a bit less.

Can I just add something to this, it's summer. I don't know how many influence this has  but it has some.

That's a good point.. Meaning this will become more momentous as the summer ends and the new school year begins..

Summer = more time to play so come end of August/start of Spetember, that small activity will likely drop even more.

Duh, its summer, most people takes holidays from school, life, and etc.
You cant spec someone to be 24/7 on a server just because its holidays and hes not at school or working.
Its in winters time when people stick to their house and when they find they are bored they use the pc much more.

I didnt create this thread for "hate towards staff" it's based up-on the several things listed in OP. Could i ask why it's admins? seeing as only one of them is active,ones on holiday, the other feels he's not needed in game. It was just an idea thats all :) since players who are on the server most days, will know how players handle situations.

Yes people can take a break, go on holiday etc. But what about the staff members that have admitted they're bored of the server? Aren't they just wasting a staff slot? when there's perfectly capable people.

Quote from: BX95 on August 01, 2013, 08:01
I hope admins take this topic / conversation into serious consideration.. It's quiet evident that something needs to be done, but in the end it's not up to players..

Since a few moderators, and admins have posted here. They have noticed it :) But as you said, we're just players.

Quote from: Rahail on August 01, 2013, 07:51
Just checked staffs stats, 75% have played less than 7 hours in 7 days.
3 or 4 staffs played like 20 hours or a bit less.

Thanks :P, apparently, one hour per day, each week is acceptable "activeness". In my opinion, it's not. Sure there may be more to judging an admins activeness or whatever, but some may just come here. As i mentioned in another post. To fly around in their planes, and ignore /a messages. I'm glad the current active admins/mods are nice :D love you guys!

Quote from: Matias. on August 01, 2013, 16:15

Duh, its summer, most people takes holidays from school, life, and etc.
You cant spec someone to be 24/7 on a server just because its holidays and hes not at school or working.
Its in winters time when people stick to their house and when they find they are bored they use the pc much more.

You just have to admire the pressure certain people are putting on the staff team lol.

Some staff members log in not just for the fun, but just to keep their position..

Dobby,
You keep saying some of us are doing noting/ignoring stuff but how are you sure about that? You dont see us watching them .. We have got our cmds which you guys dont know about.
Also you are saying that a few Hours a week is inactive but I have never seen you ingame while I was playing for hours.
You cant judge a book by its cover .. You dont know whats inside it.
You have to know that we are doing lots of more stuff then just kicking, warning people. We have to watching people for minutes, maybe hours before we can punish them.
Sometimes we are not ingame because we have to check stuff via our admin panel which takes time.
I hope you understand it better with the stuff I stated above and you may edit some stuff you stated above.
TheGame

Quote from: brane on August 02, 2013, 11:42
Some staff members log in not just for the fun, but just to keep their position..

I can't nor i want to deny that, but still there are others who can't be very active due to different occurences in their lives. And there is no way for people to know the difference, at least without a long term tracking.


My point is, when staff members have 15-20 hours per week everything is alright, but when that number drastically lowers for a week or two people just raise all the hell.

Quote from: Ethan on August 01, 2013, 15:49

Quote from: Hobo on August 01, 2013, 15:41
Summer = more time to play so come end of August/start of September, that small activity will likely drop even more.

only point that needs to be made

Thats not for everyone, i have 7 weeks summer vacation but im working 5 days a week with a job of 8 hours a day so 40 hours a week and im in week 3 of the 4 so i already did 120 hours of work and have to do 1 week more, than i go a week away with family and our horse to make trips and the next week i go to Greece so i'm over 3 weeks 1 week to be at home and with the high temperature we have rarely in Holland im not gonne babysit online. The week after school starts again...

Quote from: Marccc on August 02, 2013, 11:54

Quote from: Ethan on August 01, 2013, 15:49

Quote from: Hobo on August 01, 2013, 15:41
Summer = more time to play so come end of August/start of September, that small activity will likely drop even more.

only point that needs to be made

Thats not for everyone, i have 7 weeks summer vacation but im working 5 days a week with a job of 8 hours a day so 40 hours a week and im in week 3 of the 4 so i already did 120 hours of work and have to do 1 week more, than i go a week away with family and our horse to make trips and the next week i go to Greece so i'm over 3 weeks 1 week to be at home and with the high temperature we have rarely in Holland im not gonne babysit online. The week after school starts again...

if you don't have time, resign like some others did

I have time, but not much in this vacation. When i go back to school i have enough time.
What i mean to say here is that vacation dont always mean that you have more time to play.

Cool a discussion:)
i want to contribute but im on my phone xd.
about staff: for the past 3 months i have stored and gathered info secretly on all staff an possible moderators. when im back changes will take place.
for the people that didnt read my motivation from a few weeks ago: aslong as we have 50 slots we do not need more staff and we cannot eliminate staff members that are now inactive due to proper reasons ( exams/school/family issues and vacation). a holiday roster is available for staff eyes only. for normal players it might look like another inactive staff memner buts its not.

in the end changes will take place but not over the backs over those that dedicated hours and hours over months because we are in a summr period/exam period.

Quote from: Konali on August 02, 2013, 18:10
Cool a discussion:)
i want to contribute but im on my phone xd.
about staff: for the past 3 months i have stored and gathered info secretly on all staff an possible moderators. when im back changes will take place.
for the people that didnt read my motivation from a few weeks ago: aslong as we have 50 slots we do not need more staff and we cannot eliminate staff members that are now inactive due to proper reasons ( exams/school/family issues and vacation). a holiday roster is available for staff eyes only. for normal players it might look like another inactive staff memner buts its not.

in the end changes will take place but not over the backs over those that dedicated hours and hours over months because we are in a summr period/exam period.

What sort of changes? Staff only or server in general?

Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

:megusta:  naiz!!!

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

Thanks for the good news I guess! :P

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

:matias: :matias: :matias:

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

(http://www.indianfunpic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Give-that-man-a-cookie.jpg)

Quote from: Supreme on August 02, 2013, 18:59

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

(http://www.indianfunpic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Give-that-man-a-cookie.jpg)

k

Quote from: brane on August 02, 2013, 19:03

Quote from: Supreme on August 02, 2013, 18:59

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

k

Nice :)

Another thing i've figured out. Idle kick. Since the servers had 100 slots. We average like 45-50 players. We don't get close for the system to auto kick them. There was a cop idle yesterday for ages.

new gm? new updates? thank god

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 02, 2013, 19:22

Quote from: brane on August 02, 2013, 19:03

Quote from: Supreme on August 02, 2013, 18:59

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

k

Nice :)

Another thing i've figured out. Idle kick. Since the servers had 100 slots. We average like 45-50 players. We don't get close for the system to auto kick them. There was a cop idle yesterday for ages.

Staff can override that with a command and kick anyone inactive for 5+ minutes. It was one of my favorite commands.

Quote from: Hobo on August 02, 2013, 21:01

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 02, 2013, 19:22

Quote from: brane on August 02, 2013, 19:03

Quote from: Supreme on August 02, 2013, 18:59

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

k

Nice :)

Another thing i've figured out. Idle kick. Since the servers had 100 slots. We average like 45-50 players. We don't get close for the system to auto kick them. There was a cop idle yesterday for ages.

Staff can override that with a command and kick anyone inactive for 5+ minutes. It was one of my favorite commands.

And hobo he means that we got plenty idlers cause inactive staff...

Quote from: brane on August 02, 2013, 21:39

Quote from: Hobo on August 02, 2013, 21:01

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 02, 2013, 19:22

Quote from: brane on August 02, 2013, 19:03

Quote from: Supreme on August 02, 2013, 18:59

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

k

Nice :)

Another thing i've figured out. Idle kick. Since the servers had 100 slots. We average like 45-50 players. We don't get close for the system to auto kick them. There was a cop idle yesterday for ages.

Staff can override that with a command and kick anyone inactive for 5+ minutes. It was one of my favorite commands.

And hobo he means that we got plenty idlers cause inactive staff...

Correct :) sorry i forgot to mention that. Maybe it can be changed, if the slots wont, to if theres 40 players, idle kick starts auto, lets be fair, you shouldnt be idle for more than 5 mins anyway, if you're that busy, log out.

Quote from: Rahail on August 02, 2013, 14:08

Quote from: Marccc on August 02, 2013, 11:54

Quote from: Ethan on August 01, 2013, 15:49

Quote from: Hobo on August 01, 2013, 15:41
Summer = more time to play so come end of August/start of September, that small activity will likely drop even more.

only point that needs to be made

Thats not for everyone, i have 7 weeks summer vacation but im working 5 days a week with a job of 8 hours a day so 40 hours a week and im in week 3 of the 4 so i already did 120 hours of work and have to do 1 week more, than i go a week away with family and our horse to make trips and the next week i go to Greece so i'm over 3 weeks 1 week to be at home and with the high temperature we have rarely in Holland im not gonne babysit online. The week after school starts again...

if you don't have time, resign like some others did

I have to agree 100%, also your posts and attitude towards mick and the server in topics like this prior has been disgusting. Also in the past year I have barely seen you online at all,

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

:megusta: and a cookie.

Cant quotr cause i cant scroll on phone:(
but shane...: im quite sure Rahail made more hours in the past six months thsn the Australians did in total as nation. Rahail would be one of the few playerd that spend so many hours online he would be knowing what hes talking about:)

Globally to everyone: someone in a different timezone may still be active but inactive towards you, but due to the timezone differences he or she aint that  inactive at all

There are some players (staff) who are completely inactive (not taking different timezones into account). Rahail knows what he's talking about and so do I cause I'm supporting him right now. I've been online most of the time everyday, and I know who are the people that are active and inactive (some are inactive due to holidays, but others aren't even on holidays. If you haven't got time to play or be staff, just resign. Being staff isn't child's play.)

Quote from: Konali on August 03, 2013, 02:31
Cant quotr cause i cant scroll on phone:(
but shane...: im quite sure Rahail made more hours in the past six months thsn the Australians did in total as nation. Rahail would be one of the few playerd that spend so many hours online he would be knowing what hes talking about:)

Globally to everyone: someone in a different timezone may still be active but inactive towards you, but due to the timezone differences he or she aint that  inactive at all

I have 30+ hours a week logged. :) So it must be a timezone difference to TheGame seeing me online, although im active 9pm til about 10am GMT depending on how much of a bum im feeling.
if i feel like playing ill jump on, if not, ill go do other stuff. The only reason why i was inactive before was my server. But that's old news, bored of it :P

Everyone plays how they want to. in the end its still a game for moderators too.

but! please , since i take this discussion topic seriously, sum up the mayor arguementpoints so i have an idea how and whith what i can reply when im back frm the caribbean sea:) .

because i feel staff is mainly being attacked for inactivity, where if i remember correctly 85% achieved their activity thresholds from march till july. 1 or 2 mods have been really inactive on a regular basis and thevrest did what they had to do eack week.

Quote from: Konali on August 03, 2013, 02:52
Everyone plays how they want to. in the end its still a game for moderators too.

but! please , since i take this discussion topic seriously, sum up the mayor arguementpoints so i have an idea how and whith what i can reply when im back frm the caribbean sea:) .

because i feel staff is mainly being attacked for inactivity, where if i remember correctly 85% achieved their activity thresholds from march till july. 1 or 2 mods have been really inactive on a regular basis and thevrest did what they had to do eack week.

How could i sum them all up? add everything we've discussed to the opening post? also, could an admin unlock the voting please?

What's the activity threshold? is it this "Hour a day" that marccc mentioned earlier in the thread?. Im not "attacking" anybody, im just summing up what i've gathered. A few other people have noted too, we need more moderators from different timezones. There's times when ive been on, there's been no admins for hours. Which reminds me,

How do people feel about an auto unmute timer? obviously if they're muted for flooding attempt. start a timer, once the timers up, check for admins, if there's admins on, notify them of the mute, if there isnt, unmute them. But if the admins have muted, just send a message to admins "Player X is muted after X minuites". Just a suggestion. After all this is to adress issues.

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

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Unmute thingy has been suggested but never got a response from the big boss so idk.

about a clear gap in the usa timezone thats simple and i will explain that now.
when hobo resigned we had/have still about 4-6 staff members including admins to cover that timezone/period. with such an amount of staff to cover the non peak hours period theoreticallt it dhould be rnough. Keep in mind that 24 hours of staff online is not posdible.

besides hobo leaving idk what  happrned to the rest as ig is not my timezone and therefore for Ethan/thesandman to notice big gaps of no staff.

Quote from: Konali on August 03, 2013, 03:08
Unmute thingy has been suggested but never got a response from the big boss so idk.

about a clear gap in the usa timezone thats simple and i will explain that now.
when hobo resigned we had/have still about 4-6 staff members including admins to cover that timezone/period. with such an amount of staff to cover the non peak hours period theoreticallt it dhould be rnough. Keep in mind that 24 hours of staff online is not posdible.

besides hobo leaving idk what  happrned to the rest as ig is not my timezone and therefore for Ethan/thesandman to notice big gaps of no staff.

After hobo left, the only ones covering that timezone are calvin, kenworth, sandman, ethan and me.
Calvin was along with me most of the nights but last week he dissapeared ._.
I dont see kenworth from long time ago xD
sandman joins sometimes
ethans too
i try to cover kenworth and calvin asses when they are not online but cmon i cant be 24/7 on the server and also i had exams the last week, that explains the lack of staff at nights the last weeks.

Quote from: Konali on August 03, 2013, 03:08
Unmute thingy has been suggested but never got a response from the big boss so idk.

about a clear gap in the usa timezone thats simple and i will explain that now.
when hobo resigned we had/have still about 4-6 staff members including admins to cover that timezone/period. with such an amount of staff to cover the non peak hours period theoreticallt it dhould be rnough. Keep in mind that 24 hours of staff online is not posdible.

besides hobo leaving idk what  happrned to the rest as ig is not my timezone and therefore for Ethan/thesandman to notice big gaps of no staff.

I have that script ready and waiting for Mick. He needs to ask, and i'll send it him. It works.

Theoretically it should be enough. But it really isn't Kona. As a player. I should be confident in knowing, if a hacker came online they would be banned. Smokeys getting old, he can't detect anything. The best anti cheat, is admins. We all know it. If there's no admins on, the "Pink hacker" could come back and wreak havok. Thus, killing the server more than it already is.

But as you said, it's not your timezone :) Ethans one of the "Active"  admins in game. TheSandman seems to do his job on the forum :) Which is cool, sharing roles and all that :) good job. Mick's been on the forum, why hasn't he bothered reassuring us here :(

As to Matias's post, calvin said in shoutbox hes been away with family the past couple of days :P and watching my little pony. Kenworth. I almost forgot he was moderator. Sandman, look at my above post. Ethan, see above also. You also forgot Vikingo matias :P

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 03, 2013, 03:18
You also forgot Vikingo matias :P

Vikingo is not online at this hours, he leaves me alone at 18 - 19 pm and goes to sleep, then im alone all night long, the one i forgot is branello <3 :D  That guy is epic, but he leaves 1 or 2 hours after vikingo xD

Quote from: Konali on August 03, 2013, 02:31
Cant quotr cause i cant scroll on phone:(
but shane...: im quite sure Rahail made more hours in the past six months thsn the Australians did in total as nation. Rahail would be one of the few playerd that spend so many hours online he would be knowing what hes talking about:)

Globally to everyone: someone in a different timezone may still be active but inactive towards you, but due to the timezone differences he or she aint that  inactive at all

I was referring to marccc  not rahail. Rahail has always been a good player.

Quote from: Shane0 on August 03, 2013, 03:57

Quote from: Konali on August 03, 2013, 02:31
Cant quotr cause i cant scroll on phone:(
but shane...: im quite sure Rahail made more hours in the past six months thsn the Australians did in total as nation. Rahail would be one of the few playerd that spend so many hours online he would be knowing what hes talking about:)

Globally to everyone: someone in a different timezone may still be active but inactive towards you, but due to the timezone differences he or she aint that  inactive at all

I was referring to marccc  not rahail. Rahail has always been a good player.

for second I thought you talking about me  ???

I'm only active in the morning so from 8AM till 1PM GMT +1.
So we have got other timezones Dobby.

hmm my playtimes
in local times I play in the morning from 1pm till 5 and in the evening afyer work.
from 10pm till 1am when matias shows up I go to sleep :)

Quote from: Matias. on August 03, 2013, 03:21

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 03, 2013, 03:18
You also forgot Vikingo matias :P

Vikingo is not online at this hours, he leaves me alone at 18 - 19 pm and goes to sleep, then im alone all night long, the one i forgot is branello <3 :D  That guy is epic, but he leaves 1 or 2 hours after vikingo xD

I am leaving you nearly 2 AM. I can't stay longer for 2 main reasons. 1. It's too late and I am a little bit sleepy.
2. If my dad wake up and see me playing in 3 AM....

Quote from: brane on August 03, 2013, 11:05

Quote from: Matias. on August 03, 2013, 03:21

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 03, 2013, 03:18
You also forgot Vikingo matias :P

Vikingo is not online at this hours, he leaves me alone at 18 - 19 pm and goes to sleep, then im alone all night long, the one i forgot is branello <3 :D  That guy is epic, but he leaves 1 or 2 hours after vikingo xD

I am leaving you nearly 2 AM. I can't stay longer for 2 main reasons. 1. It's too late and I am a little bit sleepy.
2. If my dad wake up and see me playing in 3 AM....

if he do it you will die  :PFFFTCCHCHCHHFFFTTT:
i'm online at night [ for eu players ] , well i was , now i'm in vacantion and will be in it until 26 august 2013 :)

To be honest, I think staff issues are being discussed more because it's one of the things we can fix without mick. Most of the other problems we need mick there because he is the one who controls CT.


Anyways, we DO need a general upgrade on the server (and that includes some gamemode stuff, staff re-organization, host upgrades (yes, we still need to fix the lag, we can't forget about that. Once CT reaches 60+ players it lags horribly, then most of the people get desynced and get banned, thus Dobby's idea that players could check their own packetloss is a +1 from me), and some other stuff the server might need, but that's up to mick).


And continuing the staff discussion we were having, we need some staff to cover other timezones besides the ones we have right now, because if no admin is online at a certain time it's pure hell. People spamming they need admin help ingame, no one is there and then they come to forum asking for an admin. That shouldn't EVER be necessary because if we had staff that could cover up some timezones and other ones would join after, the server would always (or almost always) 1-2 admins online who could help the players ingame.

Quote from: Shake on August 03, 2013, 13:43
To be honest, I think staff issues are being discussed more because it's one of the things we can fix without mick. Most of the other problems we need mick there because he is the one who controls CT.


Anyways, we DO need a general upgrade on the server (and that includes some gamemode stuff, staff re-organization, host upgrades (yes, we still need to fix the lag, we can't forget about that. Once CT reaches 60+ players it lags horribly, then most of the people get desynced and get banned, thus Dobby's idea that players could check their own packetloss is a +1 from me), and some other stuff the server might need, but that's up to mick).


And continuing the staff discussion we were having, we need some staff to cover other timezones besides the ones we have right now, because if no admin is online at a certain time it's pure hell. People spamming they need admin help ingame, no one is there and then they come to forum asking for an admin. That shouldn't EVER be necessary because if we had staff that could cover up some timezones and other ones would join after, the server would always (or almost always) 1-2 admins online who could help the players ingame.

Continuing on the suggestion. Add a suggestion to relog if the packetloss is too high. Or add a "Reconnect" button to the dialog:

ShowPlayerDialog(playerid,DIALOG_NETSTATS,DIALOG_STYLE_MSGBOX,"Network stats\nIf you have above 2.0 packetloss we suggest you click reconnect",string,"Ok","Reconnect");


For the reconnect, use the RCON Ban method to disconnect them, ban the IP then unban. You dont even have to use .ban default file a simple .txt should do the job.

Earlier on, there was a spammer, he'd advertise his server. constantly, obviously checking for admins, and the anti flood. Then when he'd figured it out. He'd do it every X seconds. Until the chat was full of his crappy soon-to-fail server. Having mods online all the time would be nice, especially since the hacker, we seem to have had an influx of new players recently too. Which is also nice. Which will mean more players getting stuck and the usual stuff admins have to deal with.

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 03, 2013, 14:13

Quote from: Shake on August 03, 2013, 13:43
To be honest, I think staff issues are being discussed more because it's one of the things we can fix without mick. Most of the other problems we need mick there because he is the one who controls CT.


Anyways, we DO need a general upgrade on the server (and that includes some gamemode stuff, staff re-organization, host upgrades (yes, we still need to fix the lag, we can't forget about that. Once CT reaches 60+ players it lags horribly, then most of the people get desynced and get banned, thus Dobby's idea that players could check their own packetloss is a +1 from me), and some other stuff the server might need, but that's up to mick).


And continuing the staff discussion we were having, we need some staff to cover other timezones besides the ones we have right now, because if no admin is online at a certain time it's pure hell. People spamming they need admin help ingame, no one is there and then they come to forum asking for an admin. That shouldn't EVER be necessary because if we had staff that could cover up some timezones and other ones would join after, the server would always (or almost always) 1-2 admins online who could help the players ingame.

Continuing on the suggestion. Add a suggestion to relog if the packetloss is too high. Or add a "Reconnect" button to the dialog:

Code Select Expand


ShowPlayerDialog(playerid,DIALOG_NETSTATS,DIALOG_STYLE_MSGBOX,"Network stats\nIf you have above 2.0 packetloss we suggest you click reconnect",string,"Ok","Reconnect");


For the reconnect, use the RCON Ban method to disconnect them, ban the IP then unban. You dont even have to use .ban default file a simple .txt should do the job.

Earlier on, there was a spammer, he'd advertise his server. constantly, obviously checking for admins, and the anti flood. Then when he'd figured it out. He'd do it every X seconds. Until the chat was full of his crappy soon-to-fail server. Having mods online all the time would be nice, especially since the hacker, we seem to have had an influx of new players recently too. Which is also nice. Which will mean more players getting stuck and the usual stuff admins have to deal with.

You can't use "Network stats\nIf you have above 2.0 packetloss we suggest you click reconnect" as dialog title

No, but you can format it into a string :) want the working code?

Just to let everyone know. I will be tidying this topic soon. Such as moving all the main discussion points to the main page from everybody. On the hope Mick see's this, and at least he doesn't have to search the entire 10+ thread pages. Keep the opinions coming guys :)

About my last post. The working code has been posted in the relevant suggestion topic. If you want to see it. Go take a look. I use it on my own server. It does work, and no doubt CT uses the same way. Click here (http://wiki.sa-mp.com/wiki/GetPlayerNetworkStats) to go directly to the wikipedia page if you're starting out in Pawn and want to know about it.

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

(http://i.imgur.com/NE4UM9m.gif)

Quote from: Hobo on August 05, 2013, 04:48

Quote from: Matias. on August 02, 2013, 18:31
Theres gonna be a huge change at CT soon. I dont know if i can tell about it but its a positive change! :D 

:biggrin: :fuckyeah:

(http://i.imgur.com/NE4UM9m.gif)

Well i should believe him if i where you:) hes speaking the truth. What the determination for ''soon'' might be is another discussion rofl :)

We should continue it here ;)

Jokes. As long as it's a positive improvement, im not fussed. Does this mean you're back off your holiday now? :D

Im back home now yes:) but i slept out late lol.
I will be ingame this evening or tommorow and then back again:)

Quote from: DobbysGamertag. on August 05, 2013, 14:17
We should continue it here ;)

Jokes. As long as it's a positive improvement, im not fussed. Does this mean you're back off your holiday now? :D

Better have improvements soon™ than to never get them. :p

As i promised i would explain some things or atleast give some info about it.
If i read carefully the following points of discussion got highlighted in this topic:

   
• No gamemode updates
• Host/ amount of players above X number = laggy
• Club base/ Club issues
• Inactive staff members/ gaps without staff on regular basis at certain times.
• Server issues as in : lag/desyncing/ping spikes
• House evictions

Gamemode Updates
For the CT player that has been here around for awhile now have clearly noticed, no recent changes where made to the gamemode.
This has 2 simple reasons, Mick doesnt/ didnt had time to script the past months due to job insecurity/college and private life things. And because he in his mind pretty much completed the gamemode.
As some players said, the gamemode is never complete as there is always room for new stuff or improvements.
Personally i have an great idea that requires no scripting at all, but would transform CT back into the 2010-2011 status and its better than more useless achievements. ( my opinion :D )
If you ask an old trucker like Rahail or Marccc or Vado, all of them probably will agree with me that the thing what made CT fucking awesome was the 40+ player convoys, players shouting LINE!!! hold the LINE!!!, and that is what we need again, convoys is what CT made special.
Achievements are cool, but i see it more as, it can be done on the side for those who dont feel like convoying that day.


Host/ X players= laggy server
Obviously there is nothing we can do about this, untill CT has a default player online base of 25 or the host gets changed. I have been away for almost an month due to ilness and vacation, so i have no up to date information regarding this topic. If we are still with the same host, its fucking damn expensive and like scripting, mick doesnt have time to check out other hosts/ move things around.


Club base/club issues
To be honest, we Admins dont have a system to prevend clubs with bases from getting inactive and do something like the house system.
We can monitor them, and where it really really obvious its a club breaking many rules, we can evict them or give them a warning.
But once again, let me be honest, usually we admins just dont have time to check all those things, and we eventually only take action if its very very obvious its a private club.
Some sentences all of you should take into consideration before making remarks about private clubs

   
• Just because an club founder is inactive, or the leaders, doesnt mean the club has paying/donating club members that use the base.
• Aslong as a club has a fair amount of donating members, its a legitimate club. But it still should accept players from time to time.

In the end, yes we can do something about this, but mostly we can see things you guys can't. Hence why it may look for you that we dont take any action to inactive clubs, but not everything is visible for you guys thus your point of view cant be really objective. But i agree, we could be somehow stricter with it, but that would mean CT becomes more and more a job instead of a game. In the end its a game and we shouldnt let players play X amount of days a month of donate strictly every month or the club gets deleted.


For the leaders without a base, every now and then some bases come available, we have i believe 28 bases at the moment, and thats quite alot. I believe when finished, the max amount will be around 34 bases, more is just asking for trouble.


Inactive staff/gaps of no staff

As stated before i have tracked alot of staff over the last months, and alot of staff (85%) achieved their thresholds of hours every week/month.
In the end that would mean we have 3-5 inactive staff members, and i think that a fair conclusion from what i have noticed myself.
First the admins,
I have read somewhere that admins are required to be online as much as moderators, well just no lol. Simply because what we do behind the scenes, is already a big part of moderating the server. TheSandman is the most forum active admin if im correct, and he does the most of the reports/appeals etc. Ethan comes next and then me, as i said, i havent been active lately due to my sickness/vacation. Hobo was really active too. I think every admin spends atleast 3-8 hours a day on CT.Whether its ingame or combined.
Obviously, they have to be ingame too from time to time, but since they do alot of work behind the scenes, we have moderators that moderate the server.


About the moderators, i see them as my team, since i gathered / decided on everyone of them except marccc since i wasnt admin then yet xD
When someone gets moderator, he or she is very active and proud and plays alot. But for those that are here longer it becomes more and more a routine thing, and most of the time, there is almost no gratitude for that what they do.


Players that fuck up by driving bad, or breaking the rules, always blaim the staff for not helping or punishing. So when staff sorta gets attacked i feel it as my role to protect them, simply because unless you have been staff here, you would know what your talking about.
This doesnt mean the staff members are allowed to stay inactive long periods of time obviously.
to come to an conclusion, its easy to point fingers if you dont fully know whats going on.

About a gap of no staff, i did expect this when hobo would leave, but lets keep in mind when we have 25 staff members at that moment,  with 50 slots, its not needed to have more staff as in numbers. Activitity was something else, but keep this in mind, summer vacations and exam periods are different all over the world. So where the Americans had an early vacation period and Australians too, EU comes a bit later.
And probably 10 staff members had final exams, or just exams this year and thats alot:) but we gotta respect that they have school and parttime jobs.


My point kinda is, yes we can demote, refresh and hire new members, but quite honestly, there will never be a guaranteed X amount of hours online on X part of the day. Everything is based on the goodwill of the mods, and the peak hours zone ( EU) has the most mods because of that.  USA has about 5 staff members that can do that zone, but if there clearly is such a big gap, we will see what will be wise to do.


Server issues/desyncs/lags


As stated before, this host is expensive. I think we should be gratefull for the fact we can play and the server isnt down as much as with Volt.
I agree lag or desyncing makes the game no fun, but im quite sure that eventually when mick does have alot of free time, things will get improved. For now there isnt much we can do lol.


House evictions


Happens from time to time, but not regularly. But Joshy made a super system for it, and every now and then admins will do something about inactive players with a house more than 2 slots. The only thing you guys can do to speed this progress up is report them in the correct board/topic and then let us gather info and when the time comes that we have enough info, we will take action.
It takes alot alot of time for Admins to come to a proper list of names everytime , and we cant afford to make any mistakes so we rather collect 1 month extra of inf, instead of making bad decisions.
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Well i have said alot, i hope with this that i could make some things clear.
there is much more news i could tell you but im not allowed to, the only thing i ask from you guys, there is always room for positive feedback, but please remember everyone of this does this on a no-pay basis and we put alot of time in this with only one goal and that is to help you guys. I see hardly any gratitude these days and thats also one of the reasons why some staff has dropped their activity.


Konali

@Konali.
TAKE ALL MY COOKIES. Couldnt have said it better.

Thanks for the explanation on some topics, Konali. I'm just waiting for the updates (or whatever you'd like to call them) to come, and see if CT gets back on its feet like it was before.


About staff, it's not always rainbows and pretty flowers around them. I have proof of some staff who rage at players and act like a regular player, without any sort of respect to the other player(s). Some do their job properly, others don't. Easy as that. I'm not the only one who saw some staff acting horribly wrong without any sort of respect towards the players, like they don't even know what their job is and what they have to do. I will not point fingers at anyone because I don't like to do it, but it's sad to see people (specially staff, which have the job to keep the server active with all the players happy) acting like (sorry for the word) retards.


About the gamemode/lag; it is really annoying to play with that amount of lag. Sometimes it's bearable to play with it, some times it just isn't. Yesterday we had a big convoy with PinkPanther as the leader, and due to the amounts of lag we all had to take different paths and different roads while driving, and even then we'd flip and crash on other players due to the supreme amounts of lag.
I'm also sure the gamemode won't be like this forever, but updates would be nice to have. Some bug fixes at first would do the trick, since we do have some bugs that really need to be fixed, else we can't do our missions properly, or go to some places without crashing (Me, Dobby and Benny have already been testing the places, trying to figure out what the problem is and we've probably figured out what the problem is).


Club bases/club issues; I don't have anything to say about that, since club bases don't bother me. Other people might.


House evictions; we really need to evict hella' lot of people. Me and Dobby got screens of a player who admitted he just logs and does one or two missions to keep the house every week/month. Is that really how it should work? No. A lot of people also need 2+ slots, and they just log to keep it, being selfish bastards, without giving the other players any chance to own a specific house.




Anyways, this is my honest opinion about all the issues you mentioned there.

Alright.

@Konali, (http://cdn.memegenerator.co/instances/600x/40089637.jpg)

Gamemode updates:
Yup, we really need this. I know more but I can't say and as Matias said, expect big changes soon, I hope it will turn true! :D
Updates are the fresh things the server needs. More fresh things = more fun for older players + more younger players. Yes, when wannabes log in they have fun having the ferry, moveable bridges, sandus, MC, WC, etc etc, but when they discover it all, it becomes old and nothing new gets added and they feel like none actually cares about this server. Also, I hate when staff keep saying CT is dying when they are the ones who should keep it alive and keep the spirit positive.


Host.
Alright, whenever someone says "at the old host we had no lag" but for fuck sake man, you didn't have lag but you were able to play around 10/24 hours per day. The host sucked and the server was a long period down. And when you tell them that, they all agree better to have lag and be able to play, than the server to be down.


Club base/Club issues
-Nothing to say-


Inactive staff.
Yup, refreshing the team would be good since there are staff members who come just to keep their moderator position, same as some guys who log in to keep their houses. And when they come, they rage at players who ask for help or report.. Alright man, from always there was ppl who asked for help, not only now! And, the excuse "CT is dying I dislike it, I will play on other server, I am playing other game" when comes, just resign and leave CT. We do not need someone who will destroy CT's spirit even more..


Server issues
I have only sometimes chat lag and myself bumping into others because of the lag. Never desyncing.


House evictions
As long as the player has 1 slot I don't bother, he may stay 60 days inactive for his house to be sold, cause there are 124124 1 slot houses and they will be never all sold. But the bigger houses, yes I agree. @Players, admins can't evict someone who haven't come 30 days this month but the other months is playing actively. You can't know his private life and his reasons/problems why he is not coming online. Be patient. None wants to lose his house if plans on coming back.

@Shake. "Me and Dobby" "Me and Dobby" "Me and Dobby" ha, gayyyyyys XDD

I get your opinion, and i appreciate it, but sometimes it just doesnt work as simple as people think.


In the end, regarding to every topic/subject you named, its better to point fingers and come up with the proof, so we actually can do something.
And this is also one of the problems of CT:


Its easy to complain, but when you see a situation like you described and you decide not to report, who is here to blaim? you or me? we cant do much without the player community providing us the first steps of a report or a situation.


think about that, and i do hope you will re consider your attitude about pointing fingers, or indeed reporting the inactive player.


Its easy to give your opinion and feedback, but if you got the proof in your own hands, and your not doing anything with it, thats quite dumb if you ask me. ( no offence). And you can always choose to report trough the admin inbox menu, that way nobody will know who reported him.


Player's feedback/reporting stuff > staff can take action  = best way
No players reporting situation> staff needs longer to tackle an situation = not good:)


Just saying bro:)

Lately i haven't been active because i have a job and i work half of the day, the other half i was mapping mostly to finish the stuff we had to. And i was out alot with my friends.

@Konali; I just didn't report anyone because I didn't have the full story to prove why they did that. My chatlogs don't save for some awkward god damn reason, and I couldn't do much with one screen without the full story. I'm just saying, staff could be more polite on some aspects.


@Brane; ujellyandmadbro?

Quote from: Shake on August 06, 2013, 13:24
@Konali; I just didn't report anyone because I didn't have the full story to prove why they did that. My chatlogs don't save for some awkward god damn reason, and I couldn't do much with one screen without the full story. I'm just saying, staff could be more polite on some aspects.


@Brane; ujellyandmadbro?

Well dont hesitate to contact  me by pm whenever you feel something was done that was not correct. In the end i need feedback from players before we as staff can do something:P

Quote from: Konali on August 06, 2013, 13:31

Quote from: Shake on August 06, 2013, 13:24
@Konali; I just didn't report anyone because I didn't have the full story to prove why they did that. My chatlogs don't save for some awkward god damn reason, and I couldn't do much with one screen without the full story. I'm just saying, staff could be more polite on some aspects.


@Brane; ujellyandmadbro?

Well dont hesitate to contact  me by pm whenever you feel something was done that was not correct. In the end i need feedback from players before we as staff can do something:P

I'll be sure to do it when anything like that happens again. :)

Quote from: Shake on August 06, 2013, 13:00
House evictions; we really need to evict hella' lot of people. Me and Dobby got screens of a player who admitted he just logs and does one or two missions to keep the house every week/month. Is that really how it should work? No. A lot of people also need 2+ slots, and they just log to keep it, being selfish bastards, without giving the other players any chance to own a specific house.

I'll try to extend watchlist to automagically find these players who do 1-4 missions a month, at the moment I'm working flat out on CT.dev so this could take a while.

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 13:12
Inactive staff.
Yup, refreshing the team would be good since there are staff members who come just to keep their moderator position, same as some guys who log in to keep their houses. And when they come, they rage at players who ask for help or report.. Alright man, from always there was ppl who asked for help, not only now! And, the excuse "CT is dying I dislike it, I will play on other server, I am playing other game" when comes, just resign and leave CT. We do not need someone who will destroy CT's spirit even more.

Brane, I am replying to this since I am sure you are talking about me.
Yes, I have said I play others games and servers because cvt is getting boring..
But,
Im already playing here for 3 years and I know better than anyone else here what has changed and the reason why it is getting boring.
I have seen cvt growing and growing .. The last few months noting happend and that makes the server boring.
Also achievements are ruining the server since noone cares anymore about the main thing on this server... TRUCKING..
Thats why convoying is less interesting.. Achievements are more important to people than TRUCKING where the server is made for.
I hope you understand my statement.

Quote from: TheGame on August 06, 2013, 14:15

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 13:12
Inactive staff.
Yup, refreshing the team would be good since there are staff members who come just to keep their moderator position, same as some guys who log in to keep their houses. And when they come, they rage at players who ask for help or report.. Alright man, from always there was ppl who asked for help, not only now! And, the excuse "CT is dying I dislike it, I will play on other server, I am playing other game" when comes, just resign and leave CT. We do not need someone who will destroy CT's spirit even more.

Brane, I am replying to this since I am sure you are talking about me.
Yes, I have said I play others games and servers because cvt is getting boring..
But,
Im already playing here for 3 years and I know better than anyone else here what has changed and the reason why it is getting boring.
I have seen cvt growing and growing .. The last few months noting happend and that makes the server boring.
Also achievements are ruining the server since noone cares anymore about the main thing on this server... TRUCKING..
Thats why convoying is less interesting.. Achievements are more important to people than TRUCKING where the server is made for.
I hope you understand my statement.

No. I was not talking about you :) At least when you come here you help, don't ignore /a and look at reports. There are some who don't do this :)

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 14:17

Quote from: TheGame on August 06, 2013, 14:15

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 13:12
Inactive staff.
Yup, refreshing the team would be good since there are staff members who come just to keep their moderator position, same as some guys who log in to keep their houses. And when they come, they rage at players who ask for help or report.. Alright man, from always there was ppl who asked for help, not only now! And, the excuse "CT is dying I dislike it, I will play on other server, I am playing other game" when comes, just resign and leave CT. We do not need someone who will destroy CT's spirit even more.

Brane, I am replying to this since I am sure you are talking about me.
Yes, I have said I play others games and servers because cvt is getting boring..
But,
Im already playing here for 3 years and I know better than anyone else here what has changed and the reason why it is getting boring.
I have seen cvt growing and growing .. The last few months noting happend and that makes the server boring.
Also achievements are ruining the server since noone cares anymore about the main thing on this server... TRUCKING..
Thats why convoying is less interesting.. Achievements are more important to people than TRUCKING where the server is made for.
I hope you understand my statement.

No. I was not talking about you :) At least when you come here you help, don't ignore /a and look at reports. There are some who don't do this :)

Like who?

Quote from: Benny on August 06, 2013, 14:28

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 14:17

Quote from: TheGame on August 06, 2013, 14:15

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 13:12
Inactive staff.
Yup, refreshing the team would be good since there are staff members who come just to keep their moderator position, same as some guys who log in to keep their houses. And when they come, they rage at players who ask for help or report.. Alright man, from always there was ppl who asked for help, not only now! And, the excuse "CT is dying I dislike it, I will play on other server, I am playing other game" when comes, just resign and leave CT. We do not need someone who will destroy CT's spirit even more.

Brane, I am replying to this since I am sure you are talking about me.
Yes, I have said I play others games and servers because cvt is getting boring..
But,
Im already playing here for 3 years and I know better than anyone else here what has changed and the reason why it is getting boring.
I have seen cvt growing and growing .. The last few months noting happend and that makes the server boring.
Also achievements are ruining the server since noone cares anymore about the main thing on this server... TRUCKING..
Thats why convoying is less interesting.. Achievements are more important to people than TRUCKING where the server is made for.
I hope you understand my statement.

No. I was not talking about you :) At least when you come here you help, don't ignore /a and look at reports. There are some who don't do this :)

Like who?

To be specific, Marcc. Plus he had "CT will die soon" in his welcome message. That's not an example a staff members have to give.

I have been inactive due to some exams i had a week ago and now im studying for 2 exams i will have this month and at october.
Staff knew about them, and its unlucky time that when i got this exams hobo was resigning which caused a big gap of inactive staff at USA time.
Vado, sandman, ethan, calvin tried its best to be online but seems i was also needed there. The last few days i tried to improve my activity back because im 'free' for 2 weeks (but studying for other exam) and got over 30 hours. That you cant see why staff is inactive doesn't mean they are inactive or not giving a fuck about CT.

@ staff : relax :)  everyone has inactivity patrons from time to time, but aslong as im admin, i will also take into consideration what you have done in the past for CT , thus i will be more lenient than players.


This topic is not just about staff:)

LMAO to staff!!
panicing like shit  :P :P :P . I can't wait to see the crying staff when they get demoted for inactiveness
ps: Love you all xD But some should get out being a staff lawl

Half offtopic:
Why the website map still doesn't have MC? Is there a technical reason or no time for that? I think it may confusing for new players.

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 14:46

Quote from: Benny on August 06, 2013, 14:28

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 14:17

Quote from: TheGame on August 06, 2013, 14:15

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 13:12
Inactive staff.
Yup, refreshing the team would be good since there are staff members who come just to keep their moderator position, same as some guys who log in to keep their houses. And when they come, they rage at players who ask for help or report.. Alright man, from always there was ppl who asked for help, not only now! And, the excuse "CT is dying I dislike it, I will play on other server, I am playing other game" when comes, just resign and leave CT. We do not need someone who will destroy CT's spirit even more.

Brane, I am replying to this since I am sure you are talking about me.
Yes, I have said I play others games and servers because cvt is getting boring..
But,
Im already playing here for 3 years and I know better than anyone else here what has changed and the reason why it is getting boring.
I have seen cvt growing and growing .. The last few months noting happend and that makes the server boring.
Also achievements are ruining the server since noone cares anymore about the main thing on this server... TRUCKING..
Thats why convoying is less interesting.. Achievements are more important to people than TRUCKING where the server is made for.
I hope you understand my statement.

No. I was not talking about you :) At least when you come here you help, don't ignore /a and look at reports. There are some who don't do this :)

Like who?

To be specific, Marcc. Plus he had "CT will die soon" in his welcome message. That's not an example a staff members have to give.

isnt there a staff topic just to keep this nagativ  things away from players??!
+tg stop acting like you are "more important" than others just because you play here long and have a lot of score....

ps. android internet app sucks when using a lot of quotes D:

Quote from: nyolc8 on August 06, 2013, 16:17
Half offtopic:
Why the website map still doesn't have MC? Is there a technical reason or no time for that? I think it may confusing for new players.

someone needs too make it first ^^ ;)

Quote from: Madeon on August 06, 2013, 16:22

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 14:46

Quote from: Benny on August 06, 2013, 14:28

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 14:17

Quote from: TheGame on August 06, 2013, 14:15

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 13:12
Inactive staff.
Yup, refreshing the team would be good since there are staff members who come just to keep their moderator position, same as some guys who log in to keep their houses. And when they come, they rage at players who ask for help or report.. Alright man, from always there was ppl who asked for help, not only now! And, the excuse "CT is dying I dislike it, I will play on other server, I am playing other game" when comes, just resign and leave CT. We do not need someone who will destroy CT's spirit even more.

Brane, I am replying to this since I am sure you are talking about me.
Yes, I have said I play others games and servers because cvt is getting boring..
But,
Im already playing here for 3 years and I know better than anyone else here what has changed and the reason why it is getting boring.
I have seen cvt growing and growing .. The last few months noting happend and that makes the server boring.
Also achievements are ruining the server since noone cares anymore about the main thing on this server... TRUCKING..
Thats why convoying is less interesting.. Achievements are more important to people than TRUCKING where the server is made for.
I hope you understand my statement.

No. I was not talking about you :) At least when you come here you help, don't ignore /a and look at reports. There are some who don't do this :)

Like who?

To be specific, Marcc. Plus he had "CT will die soon" in his welcome message. That's not an example a staff members have to give.

isnt there a staff topic just to keep this nagativ  things away from players??!
+tg stop acting like you are "more important" than others just because you play here long and have a lot of score....

ps. android internet app sucks when using a lot of quotes D:

Shhh Piet..
One of the things I dont like from you .. Always negative if someone else is talking out of experience. Please keep yourself out of this.

Guys, lets not flame each other on this topic (or any topic!). Let's keep things clean and calm, and don't point fingers at anyone.


The last thing I want to see is the whole CT community turn into a flame war, and if staff starts it, it will spread.

Quote from: Shake on August 06, 2013, 16:29
Guys, lets not flame each other on this topic (or any topic!). Let's keep things clean and calm, and don't point fingers at anyone.


The last thing I want to see is the whole CT community turn into a flame war, and if staff starts it, it will spread.

Trust me.. It already turned into a flame war ingame.. Already for a year..

Quote from: TheGame on August 06, 2013, 16:28

Quote from: Madeon on August 06, 2013, 16:22

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 14:46

Quote from: Benny on August 06, 2013, 14:28

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 14:17

Quote from: TheGame on August 06, 2013, 14:15

Quote from: brane on August 06, 2013, 13:12
Inactive staff.
Yup, refreshing the team would be good since there are staff members who come just to keep their moderator position, same as some guys who log in to keep their houses. And when they come, they rage at players who ask for help or report.. Alright man, from always there was ppl who asked for help, not only now! And, the excuse "CT is dying I dislike it, I will play on other server, I am playing other game" when comes, just resign and leave CT. We do not need someone who will destroy CT's spirit even more.

Brane, I am replying to this since I am sure you are talking about me.
Yes, I have said I play others games and servers because cvt is getting boring..
But,
Im already playing here for 3 years and I know better than anyone else here what has changed and the reason why it is getting boring.
I have seen cvt growing and growing .. The last few months noting happend and that makes the server boring.
Also achievements are ruining the server since noone cares anymore about the main thing on this server... TRUCKING..
Thats why convoying is less interesting.. Achievements are more important to people than TRUCKING where the server is made for.
I hope you understand my statement.

No. I was not talking about you :) At least when you come here you help, don't ignore /a and look at reports. There are some who don't do this :)

Like who?

To be specific, Marcc. Plus he had "CT will die soon" in his welcome message. That's not an example a staff members have to give.

isnt there a staff topic just to keep this nagativ  things away from players??!
+tg stop acting like you are "more important" than others just because you play here long and have a lot of score....

ps. android internet app sucks when using a lot of quotes D:

Shhh Piet..
One of the things I dont like from you .. Always negative if someone else is talking out of experience. Please keep yourself out of this.

ooh tg stop it man, you knowexactly what I mean.
anyways I wont spam my opinions against you since last time...
but ok whatever you think, I will disagree it in silence..

Quote from: Shake on August 06, 2013, 16:29
Guys, lets not flame each other on this topic (or any topic!). Let's keep things clean and calm, and don't point fingers at anyone.


The last thing I want to see is the whole CT community turn into a flame war, and if staff starts it, it will spread.

The train already left the station. there is a 'flame' war for a really long time now :/

we really need some bob marley here guys.
can anyone post the vid " dont worry be  happy" ?
I cant since im on my phone.. :/

can we go offtopic matias?
I love the car in twido's sign!

Quote from: Twido on August 06, 2013, 16:34

Quote from: Shake on August 06, 2013, 16:29
Guys, lets not flame each other on this topic (or any topic!). Let's keep things clean and calm, and don't point fingers at anyone.


The last thing I want to see is the whole CT community turn into a flame war, and if staff starts it, it will spread.

The train already left the station. there is a 'flame' war for a really long time now :/

indeed, its been a while flame war as been on the move, even when i joined the server this was already going, and a couple of rules wont change it, since this began with abusing staff and armored theft missions/cops in infernus.


The warm its done, no way turning back, friendships were destroyed and insults were given, game over.

Quote from: Madeon on August 06, 2013, 16:23

Quote from: nyolc8 on August 06, 2013, 16:17
Half offtopic:
Why the website map still doesn't have MC? Is there a technical reason or no time for that? I think it may confusing for new players.

someone needs too make it first ^^ ;)

Will be done in CT.dev, the current map is static, the new one will be based on the GPS map in-game so whenever the GPS map in-game is updated, the online map will update too.

Quote from: Twido on August 06, 2013, 16:34

Quote from: Shake on August 06, 2013, 16:29
Guys, lets not flame each other on this topic (or any topic!). Let's keep things clean and calm, and don't point fingers at anyone.


The last thing I want to see is the whole CT community turn into a flame war, and if staff starts it, it will spread.

The train already left the station. there is a 'flame' war for a really long time now :/

It doesn't have to continue, does it? If people get a "proper" attitude CT community will greatly improve.

Quote from: Terrorista310 on August 06, 2013, 16:42


The warm its done, no way turning back, friendships were destroyed and insults were given, game over.

This Guy .. Deserves a ... Cookie..
This is why the community is fucked up and no this is not a flame war.

Quote from: Joshy on August 06, 2013, 16:45

Quote from: Madeon on August 06, 2013, 16:23

Quote from: nyolc8 on August 06, 2013, 16:17
Half offtopic:
Why the website map still doesn't have MC? Is there a technical reason or no time for that? I think it may confusing for new players.

someone needs too make it first ^^ ;)

Will be done in CT.dev, the current map is static, the new one will be based on the GPS map in-game so whenever the GPS map in-game is updated, the online map will update too.

awesome, would like to see the new site :)

Quote from: Madeon on August 06, 2013, 16:58

Quote from: Joshy on August 06, 2013, 16:45

Quote from: Madeon on August 06, 2013, 16:23

Quote from: nyolc8 on August 06, 2013, 16:17
Half offtopic:
Why the website map still doesn't have MC? Is there a technical reason or no time for that? I think it may confusing for new players.

someone needs too make it first ^^ ;)

Will be done in CT.dev, the current map is static, the new one will be based on the GPS map in-game so whenever the GPS map in-game is updated, the online map will update too.

awesome, would like to see the new site :)

going really offtopic now, but isn't it possible to make a synced map? So we can follow every trucker on the map? Just like how some Minecraft servers has?
ps: madeon, the car is a nissan skyline tuned by Dr_Hax, Picture took by him, and drifted by him

There is so much admen caboose in this topic. I'm scared.

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Quote from: Twido on August 06, 2013, 17:11
going really offtopic now, but isn't it possible to make a synced map? So we can follow every trucker on the map? Just like how some Minecraft servers has?

Uses more resources.

Quote from: Twido on August 06, 2013, 17:11
going really offtopic now, but isn't it possible to make a synced map? So we can follow every trucker on the map? Just like how some Minecraft servers has?

That would require Mick to save player coordinates in database every few seconds or so, which will be resource-intensive if transactions are not used (if server is full at 100 slots = 100 separate INSERT SQL queries)

Quote from: Joshy on August 06, 2013, 17:29

Quote from: Twido on August 06, 2013, 17:11
going really offtopic now, but isn't it possible to make a synced map? So we can follow every trucker on the map? Just like how some Minecraft servers has?

That would require Mick to save player coordinates in database every few seconds or so, which will be resource-intensive if transactions are not used (if server is full at 100 slots = 100 separate INSERT SQL queries)

and will cause unecesary lag. by the way, why you want to know someone position if you are out of game lol

Quote from: Matias. on August 06, 2013, 17:32

Quote from: Joshy on August 06, 2013, 17:29

Quote from: Twido on August 06, 2013, 17:11
going really offtopic now, but isn't it possible to make a synced map? So we can follow every trucker on the map? Just like how some Minecraft servers has?

That would require Mick to save player coordinates in database every few seconds or so, which will be resource-intensive if transactions are not used (if server is full at 100 slots = 100 separate INSERT SQL queries)

and will cause unecesary lag. by the way, why you want to know someone position if you are out of game lol

stalker?

Quote from: Madeon on August 06, 2013, 16:35
we really need some bob marley here guys.
can anyone post the vid " dont worry be  happy" ?
I cant since im on my phone.. :/

Quote from: iRedDawn on August 06, 2013, 17:53

Quote from: Madeon on August 06, 2013, 16:35
we really need some bob marley here guys.
can anyone post the vid " dont worry be  happy" ?
I cant since im on my phone.. :/

thank you so much sir!

Quote from: Twido on August 06, 2013, 17:11

Quote from: Madeon on August 06, 2013, 16:58

Quote from: Joshy on August 06, 2013, 16:45

Quote from: Madeon on August 06, 2013, 16:23

Quote from: nyolc8 on August 06, 2013, 16:17
Half offtopic:
Why the website map still doesn't have MC? Is there a technical reason or no time for that? I think it may confusing for new players.

someone needs too make it first ^^ ;)

Will be done in CT.dev, the current map is static, the new one will be based on the GPS map in-game so whenever the GPS map in-game is updated, the online map will update too.

awesome, would like to see the new site :)

going really offtopic now, but isn't it possible to make a synced map? So we can follow every trucker on the map? Just like how some Minecraft servers has?
ps: madeon, the car is a nissan skyline tuned by Dr_Hax, Picture took by him, and drifted by him

looks like toscane map in gt5 :)

This topic is locked now since voting is LONG over, and the server is due updates. I will open a new one when the time comes.

I'd like to thank everybody for voting, and posting your opinion.