[GTA:SA] Improved Vehicle Lights +ELM!

[R3public[PL]]

I dont want to adv other serwer, I just find it there.

[SpazzBucket.]

I hope you guys know the reason elm isn't allowed is it heals the vehicle to perfect condition whenever the lights are turned on, not because others can see it...

[Dobby]

I hope you guys know the reason elm isn't allowed is it heals the vehicle to perfect condition whenever the lights are turned on, not because others can see it...

The last ELM i used didn't do this.

[SpazzBucket.]

well now that I think of it, els in gta iv doesn't do it anymore, I just have a godmode trainer so it doesn't break xD they must've updated it

[CarlJohnson]

Though it will still get you banned!  So better not/stop using it!

[Twido]

This mod should be tried by an admin and another dev/mod/admin, so they all can agree that this mod isn't repairing the car. If it does repair then the mod is still a NO
Visual for other players ain't going to be problem, maybe at carshows but else no. This isn't a valid reason. Also I wanna add that the lights in CT get auto repaired server wise since we have integrated blinkers.

Not admin/dev/mod but I'm always available to try out the mod with some staff member.

[Twido]

Ok so, I've tested this mod on my own (Sometimes help from Sandman and ribbit) but mainly on my own.
And I don't care if you believe me or not, but this mod only gives you a big disavantage.

ImVehL mod only shows to people who have that mod. ELM wasn't included in this mod pack unless I've looked over in the folders.

I've tested ELM v9.1 downloaded from gtapolicemods. So these are the results


- Flashing lights are still possible to see for other players (not a valid reason to decline usage of this mod)

- Lights always work, damaged car or not. But this was integrated in the server anyways. (also not a valid reason)

- You can move the car if its broken down.But you move slower then 0KM/H which can't be an advantage above other people. But the major problem is that IF the car is in poor condition, you can't start the engine. The ELM mod blocks it because it wanna go further without starting the car. so the server keeps saying the vehicle is stalled. You have to disable ELM (F12 key) and start the engine. if you stall again you have to repeat. (This is a valid reason to decline the  mod)

- Out of fuel and still go is somewhat an issue. If you run out of fuel you can move but like the same speed as above. Not or just  below 0KM/H. Yes I've managed to go full speed, but if a cop used ELM and ran out of fuel he won't get the suspect. It took me ~10min to get the car at full speed and this with exiting and re-entering the car. (One big fat reason why admin team doesn't want the mod)


I personally believe that this mod is really just for show and can't give you any advantage.
It's up to the Admins/Mick88 to decide if the mod will be allowed. There isn't any advantage, just one big disavantage

[nyolc8]

After you said that you can move with empty tank, you pretty much made it 100% it won't be allowed.

[Twido]

After you said that you can move with empty tank, you pretty much made it 100% it won't be allowed.

Pretty sure its possible to fix this through server-side OR someone has to contact the ELM creater to make this client-side and fix the fuel issue

[nyolc8]

They won't change the server script because of a client mod... btw I never really understood why a light-related mod changes car damage and things like speed... sounds unneccessary. But I think we could fix it by ourselfes by removing the lines which fixing and moving the car.

AND... uhm... the new imvehft have ELM-like features, not the ELM itself. So imvehft emergency light features are client sided...

[Twido]

They won't change the server script because of a client mod... btw I never really understood why a light-related mod changes car damage and things like speed... sounds unneccessary. But I think we could fix it by ourselfes by removing the lines which fixing and moving the car.

AND... uhm... the new imvehft have ELM-like features, not the ELM itself. So imvehft emergency light features are client sided...

Good, but someone from CT community has to fix it. I have no clue where to start searching for those lines so uhm someone with mod coding experience here? please, i love elm :p

[TheSandman]

- Flashing lights are still possible to see for other players (not a valid reason to decline usage of this mod)

This is list of features that are not allowed in server. Any mod that has any of these features is not allowed in server:

• ELM/Emergency Light Mod (it is visible to other players!)
  
• Anything that appears for other players like a hack or something that isn't normally available in game or gamemode.

This means that Emergency Lights Mod is not allowed (it alters vehicle damages!) and players using ELM will be kicked from server. Players using forbidden mods may be also banned from server.

Cmon, really.

[nyolc8]

Tried to modify elm, and I realized that all light effect by elm built onto headlights/taillights. So if we disable the controlling of those, we lost every elm light. I only can get a strobe light on the roof without any visible lightsource while keeping everything (so without touching stock lights,engine state,etc) uncontrolled and nothing more. So textures and things like that all bugged if we remove the headlight lines from the code.

If DK will make an option to the new imvehft to turn off that stupid license plate lightning, then I'll make stock copcars (and my copcar mods) to compatible with imvehft elm features.

[Twido]

- Flashing lights are still possible to see for other players (not a valid reason to decline usage of this mod)

This is list of features that are not allowed in server. Any mod that has any of these features is not allowed in server:

   
• ELM/Emergency Light Mod (it is visible to other players!)
• Anything that appears for other players like a hack or something that isn't normally available in game or gamemode.

This means that Emergency Lights Mod is not allowed (it alters vehicle damages!) and players using ELM will be kicked from server. Players using forbidden mods may be also banned from server.

Cmon, really.

Nono see sandman i know that rule, I just think that's a stupid rule. If ELM fuel/damage problem is fixed, the lights shouldn't disallow the usage

[Marccc]

Can we get 2010 back so we dont have this discussion at all?

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