Pc build question

[SpazzBucket.]

Ok so as you might know, my laptop isn't the best for gaming, I've looked at ones that are built already for over $1000, but I heard you can custom build your own for under $700. Whats your guy's opinions and suggestions? where should I start looking?

[Hobo]

Do you want a laptop or desktop? I ask because you can build a more powerful desktop than laptop for the same price.
You can't really build your own laptop, you can but it's not at all practical. I know you can have them custom built for you with your specifications but not sure where.

I suggest you check out http://www.reddit.com/r/suggestalaptop if you really want a laptop.

[SpazzBucket.]

Do you want a laptop or desktop? I ask because you can build a more powerful desktop than laptop for the same price.
You can't really build your own laptop, you can but it's not at all practical. I know you can have them custom built for you with your specifications but not sure where.

I suggest you check out http://www.reddit.com/r/suggestalaptop if you really want a laptop.

No I want to go desktop for sure, I know that you get way more for less in a desktop

[Hobo]

Ok, desktop it is. Questions:
Budget?
Will you overclock your CPU?
What games do you want to run (just a few examples)?
Can you get a copy of Windows or do you need that included?
Monitor?
Keyboard/mouse?

[SpazzBucket.]

Budget: $600-$900 (over $800 have to have some significant improvements from cheaper)
Overclock:Not if I don't have to, if it is cheaper and safe enough to overclock then I will
Games I want to run:BFH, Watch Dogs, AC4 on max settings at a good fps (>60)
Windows:I will need it to be included, prefer windows 7 over 8 if that is a better gaming option
Monitor:already have a 1920x1200 HP monitor
Keyboard/mouse:A decent keyboard with hotkeys, backlight and shallow keys (laptop style keyboard) don't need a super fancy mouse, maybe a few extra buttons depending on price

[Hobo]

This is what I put together. Note: Does not include keyboard/mouse. The CPU cooler is optional, the CPU will come with a stock cooler. I only included it because the stock cooler sounds like a tornado. I can hear mine from across the hall. Windows 8 is supposed to run games slightly better than 7 but they are the same price so choose whichever you want. You could also swap the video card for a GTX 660. Mine runs most games on ultra @ 1080p @ 30-60 FPS depending on the game.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($118.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($116.90 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $786.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

[SpazzBucket.]

This is what I put together. Note: Does not include keyboard/mouse. The CPU cooler is optional, the CPU will come with a stock cooler. I only included it because the stock cooler sounds like a tornado. I can hear mine from across the hall. Windows 8 is supposed to run games slightly better than 7 but they are the same price so choose whichever you want. You could also swap the video card for a GTX 660. Mine runs most games on ultra @ 1080p @ 30-60 FPS depending on the game.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor  ($118.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($116.90 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card  ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)  ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $786.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

That looks like a decent setup, good price too, I guess this is finally a paycheck that won't be going into my car

Also, is there a way I could get all of my games or at least the saves from my laptop HDD to the new PC HDD? I would like to just transfer over everything but I don't want to have problems that the laptop has been having

[TheSandman]

Just open the laptop, take the hard drive out, and plug it into your new comp using the same cable. It wont be a usb cable, itll be a sata cable, plug that into your new pc motherboard, (unless you invest in a hard drive caddy, make it a portable one, or keep it in your desktop as another drive), and it should come up with 2 hard drives in windows.

[Joshy]

I recommend trying to get a SSD on top of Hobo's build, you'll notice a difference in pretty much anything you do. I have a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO which I bought for £60, but maybe consider saving up for the 250GB model so you can put some games on it.

[Ethan]

man, I really need to save for a new one...somewhat decent "gaming" desktop for >$800, Ill take it

[Dobby]

man, I really need to save for a new one...somewhat decent "gaming" desktop for >$800, Ill take it

Define decent



The CPU 'AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor' is great. My friend used* to have it. Ran everything he threw at it.

The GPU sounds 'dank' as Hobo would say

[Ethan]

Define decent

one that can play GTA V comfortably, along with other "graphic intense/ CPU demanding" games

[Dr_Alio]

Why do you need the operating system if it's easy to activate it legally ( we dont give links to that) plus whay Semi-Modular power supply if you can buy None-Modular and safe some money pc case dosen't have window.

[Hobo]

Why do you need the operating system if it's easy to activate it legally ( we dont give links to that) plus whay Semi-Modular power supply if you can buy None-Modular and safe some money pc case dosen't have window.

That's the price for a legal Windows OS. You can get codes cheaper from various places but generally the sellers are breaking Microsoft's TOS.
Semi-Modular PSUs allow you to add only cables you need, that helps with airflow which helps keep everything cooler.

[SpazzBucket.]

You are all confusing me with this computer talk XD

I recommend trying to get a SSD on top of Hobo's build, you'll notice a difference in pretty much anything you do. I have a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO which I bought for £60, but maybe consider saving up for the 250GB model so you can put some games on it.

My laptop's 750gb HDD only has 50gb of space left on it, I need the 1TB, 250gb won't be nearly enough, I'll fill it in a month xD

[Joshy]

I recommend trying to get a SSD on top of Hobo's build, you'll notice a difference in pretty much anything you do. I have a 120GB Samsung 840 EVO which I bought for £60, but maybe consider saving up for the 250GB model so you can put some games on it.

My laptop's 750gb HDD only has 50gb of space left on it, I need the 1TB, 250gb won't be nearly enough, I'll fill it in a month xD

Use the 1TB HDD to store anything bulky like movies, FRAPS videos, music, downloads, most games etc, and then use the SSD to store the operating system, most (if not all) of your programs, and some frequently played games.

[Benny]

I would rather go for an intel CPU.

[Hobo]

I would rather go for an intel CPU.

I would too, problem is that they're expensive unless you get an older one. An i5 will add at least $100 to the build price. The 4690k is really nice but its $130 more than the FX-6300. The 6300 will play most games on high/ultra at 45-60+fps depending on the GPU.

[Benny]

I would rather pay more to get a better cpu, i know alot of guys here who had AMD cpu's and they didn't work good, now they have intel cpu's and they work fine with no problems.

[Hobo]

I would rather pay more to get a better cpu, i know alot of guys here who had AMD cpu's and they didn't work good, now they have intel cpu's and they work fine with no problems.

My brother and I both currently have the AMD FX-6300 and have had zero issues with it. It's a great CPU for the price. I'm upgrading to an i7 3770 but only because I got it for $75 
9/10 would buy AMD again

[Dobby]

I would rather pay more to get a better cpu, i know alot of guys here who had AMD cpu's and they didn't work good, now they have intel cpu's and they work fine with no problems.

You do realise its possible for the same to happen to Intel CPU's too? My AMD CPU is fine, i use it all the time (when im at home PC is on).

[Shake]

I would rather pay more to get a better cpu, i know alot of guys here who had AMD cpu's and they didn't work good, now they have intel cpu's and they work fine with no problems.

You do realise its possible for the same to happen to Intel CPU's too? My AMD CPU is fine, i use it all the time (when im at home PC is on).

Exactly. Not working good doesn't mean AMD is bad. That CPU was probably bad, it could have also happened to a intel one. I think in terms of cash-performance ratio, AMD is way better since it's cheaper.

[Benny]

Im just saying that Intel is better then AMD, thats all. AMD is good too but i prefer intel.

[Dr_dog]

Just throwing my 0.02€ at the jar.. AMD CPUs work for gaming decently.. For livestreaming, heavy encoding on the fly.. They are shit. Also the thermal protections and the safety features has always been lacking from the AMD processors. Its like a chernobyl's nuclear reactors.. They work fine at the specific operating range.. When you go outside it.. they go on meltdown. I personally never had AMD CPU that worked flawlessy during my operations (Though that was Athlon/Sempron era) Also in industrial environment AMD lacks what intel has.. reliability and stability

[SpazzBucket.]

Well I got a used one for $320 that can play bf4 so I'm happy, gonna get a better graphics card/video card next paycheck with a larger required power supply that the guy has.

[droctogonapus]

I have an all AMD build and it's working perfectly fine for me.  I do get graphical glitches in 2 games I have but that's because I'm using the beta driver's and installed hybrid physx.  Intel is not better than AMD, and AMD is not better than Intel.  They both perform better at some applications than others.

[Ethan]

Intel is not better than AMD, and AMD is not better than Intel.  They both perform better at some applications than others.

thank you