Bigger forum avatars

Started by Supreme, May 13, 2014, 22:33

TheSandman

Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 14:23
Quote from: Supreme on May 15, 2014, 20:17
Quote from: Vinny on May 15, 2014, 20:10
Make it an option so those who don't want it can stop QQ
No one was QQ'ing, there is nothing what hurts having bigger forum avatars.

Actually there is, people that don't have good internet, it could take awhile for the page to load, bigger forum avatars means bigger file sizes.
Do what i do, disable them. ive done the same with signatures.
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Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 14:23
Quote from: Supreme on May 15, 2014, 20:17
Quote from: Vinny on May 15, 2014, 20:10
Make it an option so those who don't want it can stop QQ
No one was QQ'ing, there is nothing what hurts having bigger forum avatars.

Actually there is, people that don't have good internet, it could take awhile for the page to load, bigger forum avatars means bigger file sizes.
I agree with Vinny, If it gets added there should be option to choose normal size or bigger size.


Supreme

Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 14:23
Quote from: Supreme on May 15, 2014, 20:17
Quote from: Vinny on May 15, 2014, 20:10
Make it an option so those who don't want it can stop QQ
No one was QQ'ing, there is nothing what hurts having bigger forum avatars.

Actually there is, people that don't have good internet, it could take awhile for the page to load, bigger forum avatars means bigger file sizes.

I don't know what type of internet you can have for forum avatars to load slow, I have no trouble loading anything (avatars/signatures), not even after my 3G was limited. Increasing forum avatars won't have much of an impact. If your internet is THAT slow, just disable signatures or avatars. Adding another option just seems like unneeded work for me.

Shake

Quote from: Supreme on May 16, 2014, 22:07
Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 14:23
Quote from: Supreme on May 15, 2014, 20:17
Quote from: Vinny on May 15, 2014, 20:10
Make it an option so those who don't want it can stop QQ
No one was QQ'ing, there is nothing what hurts having bigger forum avatars.

Actually there is, people that don't have good internet, it could take awhile for the page to load, bigger forum avatars means bigger file sizes.

I don't know what type of internet you can have for forum avatars to load slow, I have no trouble loading anything (avatars/signatures), not even after my 3G was limited. Increasing forum avatars won't have much of an impact. If your internet is THAT slow, just disable signatures or avatars. Adding another option just seems like unneeded work for me.
And if your internet is as slow as to "lag" on loading bigger images on a simple forum, you shouldn't be playing games at all.

ihatetn931

Quote from: Shake on May 16, 2014, 22:12
Quote from: Supreme on May 16, 2014, 22:07
Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 14:23
Quote from: Supreme on May 15, 2014, 20:17
Quote from: Vinny on May 15, 2014, 20:10
Make it an option so those who don't want it can stop QQ
No one was QQ'ing, there is nothing what hurts having bigger forum avatars.

Actually there is, people that don't have good internet, it could take awhile for the page to load, bigger forum avatars means bigger file sizes.

I don't know what type of internet you can have for forum avatars to load slow, I have no trouble loading anything (avatars/signatures), not even after my 3G was limited. Increasing forum avatars won't have much of an impact. If your internet is THAT slow, just disable signatures or avatars. Adding another option just seems like unneeded work for me.
And if your internet is as slow as to "lag" on loading bigger images on a simple forum, you shouldn't be playing games at all.

You're not getting the point, it's not just one image, it's all the people with big avatars, so if you got a page with say 50 post on it, that's 50 images you have to load. Some people have slow internet, not cause they can't afford it, it's cause of their location.

Someone is not gonna move from a house they like just to get better internet so you just wait it out with the slower internet till the faster internet makes it out to you. Also on top of that you have to load the signatures, I bet the people with 3g on their phone, i bet it will take a min to load.

I myself have no problem with the bigger avatars, having slow internet, if you have speeds over 300 kb/s then you won't lagg in game at all but it will take longer to load pages with a ton of images, you have to understand how networking and bandwith works before you throw out an assumption like that.

I was just looking out for the people that have slow internet, think about others and not just yourself.


Supreme

Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 22:29
Quote from: Shake on May 16, 2014, 22:12
Quote from: Supreme on May 16, 2014, 22:07
Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 14:23
Quote from: Supreme on May 15, 2014, 20:17
Quote from: Vinny on May 15, 2014, 20:10
Make it an option so those who don't want it can stop QQ
No one was QQ'ing, there is nothing what hurts having bigger forum avatars.

Actually there is, people that don't have good internet, it could take awhile for the page to load, bigger forum avatars means bigger file sizes.

I don't know what type of internet you can have for forum avatars to load slow, I have no trouble loading anything (avatars/signatures), not even after my 3G was limited. Increasing forum avatars won't have much of an impact. If your internet is THAT slow, just disable signatures or avatars. Adding another option just seems like unneeded work for me.
And if your internet is as slow as to "lag" on loading bigger images on a simple forum, you shouldn't be playing games at all.

You're not getting the point, it's not just one image, it's all the people with big avatars, so if you got a page with say 50 post on it, that's 50 images you have to load. Some people have slow internet, not cause they can't afford it, it's cause of their location.

Someone is not gonna move from a house they like just to get better internet so you just wait it out with the slower internet till the faster internet makes it out to you. Also on top of that you have to load the signatures, I bet the people with 3g on their phone, i bet it will take a min to load.

I myself have no problem with the bigger avatars, having slow internet, if you have speeds over 300 kb/s then you won't lagg in game at all but it will take longer to load pages with a ton of images, you have to understand how networking and bandwith works before you throw out an assumption like that.

I was just looking out for the people that have slow internet, think about others and not just yourself.
You fail to see the point either, I just said that even on the lowest internet I get after limit (64kbps), forum loads everything allright, okay it may take 20-30 seconds, but the avatars are only a small part, but the main point is that probably no one has a lower connection than that, also remember that you don't load all images, since there is something called a cache.

ihatetn931

Quote from: Supreme on May 16, 2014, 22:35
Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 22:29
Quote from: Shake on May 16, 2014, 22:12
Quote from: Supreme on May 16, 2014, 22:07
Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 14:23
Quote from: Supreme on May 15, 2014, 20:17
Quote from: Vinny on May 15, 2014, 20:10
Make it an option so those who don't want it can stop QQ
No one was QQ'ing, there is nothing what hurts having bigger forum avatars.

Actually there is, people that don't have good internet, it could take awhile for the page to load, bigger forum avatars means bigger file sizes.

I don't know what type of internet you can have for forum avatars to load slow, I have no trouble loading anything (avatars/signatures), not even after my 3G was limited. Increasing forum avatars won't have much of an impact. If your internet is THAT slow, just disable signatures or avatars. Adding another option just seems like unneeded work for me.
And if your internet is as slow as to "lag" on loading bigger images on a simple forum, you shouldn't be playing games at all.

You're not getting the point, it's not just one image, it's all the people with big avatars, so if you got a page with say 50 post on it, that's 50 images you have to load. Some people have slow internet, not cause they can't afford it, it's cause of their location.

Someone is not gonna move from a house they like just to get better internet so you just wait it out with the slower internet till the faster internet makes it out to you. Also on top of that you have to load the signatures, I bet the people with 3g on their phone, i bet it will take a min to load.

I myself have no problem with the bigger avatars, having slow internet, if you have speeds over 300 kb/s then you won't lagg in game at all but it will take longer to load pages with a ton of images, you have to understand how networking and bandwith works before you throw out an assumption like that.

I was just looking out for the people that have slow internet, think about others and not just yourself.
You fail to see the point either, I just said that even on the lowest internet I get after limit (64kbps), forum loads everything allright, okay it may take 20-30 seconds, but the avatars are only a small part, but the main point is that probably no one has a lower connection than that, also remember that you don't load all images, since there is something called a cache.

The bigger avatars haven't been put on yet, yes you have a cache but you still need to load them atlease once, Also i'm sure some people actually clear their cache daily. most tune up programs will clear your cache. so depending how often you tune up your computer ect. You'll be loading those images more then you think.

1 picture say 1.5 mb

1.5*50 = 75
75 mb for one webpage?
I'd say your cache won't take long to fill up since most browsers limit the amount of cache that is store, unless you have manually set it

75 / 300 = 22.5
22.5 seconds to load that page with 300 kb/s internet.

Little bit of a wait don't you think?


Hobo

Trust me, loading one page of the forum is no where near 75mb.
This page alone is not even 4mb. That includes all images.


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Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 22:48
Quote from: Supreme on May 16, 2014, 22:35
Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 22:29
Quote from: Shake on May 16, 2014, 22:12
Quote from: Supreme on May 16, 2014, 22:07
Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 14:23
Quote from: Supreme on May 15, 2014, 20:17
Quote from: Vinny on May 15, 2014, 20:10
Make it an option so those who don't want it can stop QQ
No one was QQ'ing, there is nothing what hurts having bigger forum avatars.

Actually there is, people that don't have good internet, it could take awhile for the page to load, bigger forum avatars means bigger file sizes.

I don't know what type of internet you can have for forum avatars to load slow, I have no trouble loading anything (avatars/signatures), not even after my 3G was limited. Increasing forum avatars won't have much of an impact. If your internet is THAT slow, just disable signatures or avatars. Adding another option just seems like unneeded work for me.
And if your internet is as slow as to "lag" on loading bigger images on a simple forum, you shouldn't be playing games at all.

You're not getting the point, it's not just one image, it's all the people with big avatars, so if you got a page with say 50 post on it, that's 50 images you have to load. Some people have slow internet, not cause they can't afford it, it's cause of their location.

Someone is not gonna move from a house they like just to get better internet so you just wait it out with the slower internet till the faster internet makes it out to you. Also on top of that you have to load the signatures, I bet the people with 3g on their phone, i bet it will take a min to load.

I myself have no problem with the bigger avatars, having slow internet, if you have speeds over 300 kb/s then you won't lagg in game at all but it will take longer to load pages with a ton of images, you have to understand how networking and bandwith works before you throw out an assumption like that.

I was just looking out for the people that have slow internet, think about others and not just yourself.
You fail to see the point either, I just said that even on the lowest internet I get after limit (64kbps), forum loads everything allright, okay it may take 20-30 seconds, but the avatars are only a small part, but the main point is that probably no one has a lower connection than that, also remember that you don't load all images, since there is something called a cache.

The bigger avatars haven't been put on yet, yes you have a cache but you still need to load them atlease once, Also i'm sure some people actually clear their cache daily. most tune up programs will clear your cache. so depending how often you tune up your computer ect. You'll be loading those images more then you think.

1 picture say 1.5 mb

1.5*50 = 75
75 mb for one webpage?
I'd say your cache won't take long to fill up since most browsers limit the amount of cache that is store, unless you have manually set it

75 / 300 = 22.5
22.5 seconds to load that page with 300 kb/s internet.

Little bit of a wait don't you think?

m9 for a pic to weigh 1.5mb, it must be 1920x1080 and saved as .png, otherwise the same picture saved as .jpg is barely 200Kbs
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Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 22:48
1 picture say 1.5 mb

1.5*50 = 75
75 mb for one webpage?

1.5mb? Are you talking about 1920x1080 .PNG? Because forum avatars are never that big and mostly in .JPG, also while you are at it, can you explain to me while my phone only used 30,61mb in 20 days on Chrome on 3G? This includes browsing Google images etc. and I visited the forum atleast 3 times each day on 3G, opening 5-6 unread topics atleast every day. My avatar is 9,8kb, it's 200x200, most people won't use 1080p avatars and I am sure the forum doesn't even allow that.

Supreme

Bump since lots of people seem to like it.

Joshy

Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 14:23
Quote from: Supreme on May 15, 2014, 20:17
Quote from: Vinny on May 15, 2014, 20:10
Make it an option so those who don't want it can stop QQ
No one was QQ'ing, there is nothing what hurts having bigger forum avatars.

Actually there is, people that don't have good internet, it could take awhile for the page to load, bigger forum avatars means bigger file sizes.
Your statement is false since if you check the current avatars, they are loading straight from a URL which can be high-resolution.

To me, it doesn't look right that the avatar is sticking out of the user's info so I'll have to adjust things if/when this gets added.
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Quote from: Joshy on May 19, 2014, 17:40
Quote from: ihatetn931 on May 16, 2014, 14:23
Quote from: Supreme on May 15, 2014, 20:17
Quote from: Vinny on May 15, 2014, 20:10
Make it an option so those who don't want it can stop QQ
No one was QQ'ing, there is nothing what hurts having bigger forum avatars.

Actually there is, people that don't have good internet, it could take awhile for the page to load, bigger forum avatars means bigger file sizes.
Your statement is false since if you check the current avatars, they are loading straight from a URL which can be high-resolution.

To me, it doesn't look right that the avatar is sticking out of the user's info so I'll have to adjust things if/when this gets added.


Aren't you the one that goes over suggestions like this?  ???

Hobo

Would be nice. If it's added there should be an option to choose large, normal, or no avatars displayed. That way everyone wins.  :like:


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So can I get verdict on this? It's been two weeks, the person responsable for forum stuff probably has seen this already...