What's the goal of the administrators?

[Matias]

So I ask again, who's the original poster of those 2 rules and how did you come to this conclusion, me calling you lazy? I simply interpreted them.

Mick made that rules. You must check this POST before suggest something, if you dont then all what you suggest if its already on that list it will be locked. Is it too hard to read it? The last 2.5 years every player that suggested something readed it and had no complain.

[Marccc]

FAIL #2 reading.

[GHOST]

@Beelzeboss, "So I ask again, who's the original poster of those 2 rules" you got the context wrong dude.

@Marcc, you still don't get the idea but Imma break it down for you in simple words: The OVERALL idea of the entire bigass story I just posted is this: I would like to see a competent reason for which a suggestion is denied instead of reading "I'm the owner of the server and I do what I want".

Do you want me to spell it now? I can freely say that you might have some understanding problems since you're from Holland, English ain't your first language and I used some complicated words. It's not a Read Fail from my part, it's more an Understanding Fail from your part

[Hobo]

That is the reason. Mick is the owner of this server, it is his creation. He can do what he wants with it.

You go build something that requires over 30,000 lines of code and then ask some random person to do whatever they want to it. It doesn't work like that. He does what he wants with his property.

Is your question answered now?

[GHOST]

Yes, clear enough for me. You might also want to add that to the unwritten rules that "giving a competent reason for which me, as the owner of the server, isn't in my interest. I prefer saying saying I do things how I want then explaining myself"

[Marccc]

You gave the answer by yourself.

You: "I'm the owner of the server and I do what I want" = Mick: Ultimately it's up to me whether new features will be added or not.

[Matias]

Mick is not gonna give you a reason most of the times, if he doesnt like the idea he will lock it and SOMETIMES tell you why.
Its up to him what to do with his server.
If you want to do whatever you want at SAMP then go and make your own server instead of come here and request stuff mick doesnt want for his server.

[RaceRX]

Mati.. Elm doesn't fix shit anymore. Get your shit straight. Mick didn't it want for a technicality. It's a visual mod. He tried to claim other bull shit but it was proven his other reasons were not even possible

[Terrorista310]

I gonna save you some time, the real reason for ELM is not allowed is because if you have empty fuel and you turn on ELM on max you can drive the car.

[RaceRX]

I gonna save you some time, the real reason for ELM is not allowed is because if you have empty fuel and you turn on ELM on max you can drive the car.

true. i should recode ELM and get it to stop doing that.. i bet i could. oh well, im too lazy.

[Storm94]

I'm going to step into the shit storm.

As a PAWN scripter myself, I understand where mick is coming from -- to a point. For about 6 months I was the scripter of a server called Project: Los Angeles, which was a roleplay server, and when I started, the script was just under 90,000 lines. When I left, it was well over 110,000 lines. Point being, I added A LOT of new features to that script, but being that I was lead developer, I also dealt with suggestions. Heres an example. Player A wants me to rescript the nametag system. Well, I can do it, it's not a judge of my abilities, its a judge of work. Rescripting the nametag system for that script would have taken 5-10 man hours of work, because of how integral it was.

Now, on to CT, I imagine that in 30,000+ lines of CVT, many of the systems in CVT are very proprietary and scripted for ONE possible situation. Thats the luxury of making a specialized GM, you dont have to make it work with ANYTHING, as long as it can work with itself. Now, when you start adding in some of the things that are suggested, many times it would require an entire RESCRIPT of a core system, which takes A LOT of time and effort.

Pile on to that that mick is in college full time and has very little time for this server, you get a standstill in development. Now, I would love to offer my services to mick, but the fact that he doesn't want anyone to help him, coupled with my less than perfect reputation with this server, it probably will never happen.

Now do you understand? Until you actually start scripting, you have absolutely ZERO right to bitch about anything related to it. It is not easy, PAWN is an old and outdated language adapted to a game that isn't perfect by far, so writing certain systems is many, many times harder than it should be, like if SA-MP supported LUA or some other, more modern and more standard language.

/rage

[Dan_Nobleman]

I might as well add onto what Storm has touched on.

Most of you guys don't know much about me, or my past, at least, but I used to be associated with a gaming forum which has been long since forgotten. Most of the gaming forum was revolved around game hacks / cheats, and I got extremely interested. I had started scripting in JavaDocs to make scripts for RSBot, and I had also started working on DirectX hacks for a game called Combat Arms. For me, especially at that age, I found it pretty complicated to service the needs and wants of the community, much less deal with all of the bugs.

Regardless of my background, most scripters and coders, and so forth encounter the same issues. The community demands much more than what just one ( or a few ) person (people) can deal with at any certain occasion. With that, you then have to prioritize these wants. I have seen a lot of the suggestions that get suggested here, and a lot of them are pointless. For me, personally,  I wouldn't waste my time trying to implement something that is pointless to the script, especially because we have other things to do.

As it can be agreed upon by the experienced scripters and coders, adding every little fucking suggestion is a bitch, and nobody is actually willing to do it.

/rage

[Konali]

Both Dan and Storm, i know that you love to troll around, but the pieces you both have written shows us why you are veterans of CT. Instead of complaining you try to describe what mick is capable of giving to CT, and telling other members that thiis is indeed a really old game/platfrom.


After your amazing speeches i really hope that Mr.LoverLover does understand now why and how.
Thank you, both of you for pointing this out. I appreciate this much.

[Storm94]

Both Dan and Storm, i know that you love to troll around, but the pieces you both have written shows us why you are veterans of CT. Instead of complaining you try to describe what mick is capable of giving to CT, and telling other members that thiis is indeed a really old game/platfrom.


After your amazing speeches i really hope that Mr.LoverLover does understand now why and how.
Thank you, both of you for pointing this out. I appreciate this much.

WOO I DID SOMETHING RIGHT

Can I have mod now?

[Hobo]

WOO I DID SOMETHING RIGHT

Can I have mod now?

Instead of mod, I gave you a cookie