Abuse of /admin command

Started by mick88, March 24, 2015, 12:59

TheGame

And when I was mod, noone seemed to care about this.. So, after 4 years you came to the conclusion that this can no longer be accepted? Would be great if you realised this abit earlier.

Costel

Quote from: mick88 on March 24, 2015, 17:02
Quote from: Hobo on March 24, 2015, 16:55
If I drive myself into the water, that's my fault. But say a player comes online and is only there to ram me off the road. When he does so and I report him, are staff allowed to help me out of the water if there is time? Just want a clarification when it's someone else's fault that I end up in the water.
If you report him then yes. But if you cry for help and don't point to the rammer, admins will assume it's your own fault.
this is the right way to get tonnels of false reports.

CarlJohnson

Quote from: mick88 on March 24, 2015, 17:20
Quote from: CarlJohnson on March 24, 2015, 17:07
One more thing, are they supposed to help if you get stuck somewhere else or your trailer disappears (just in case) due to gamemod bug?
Just want to confirm.
I've never had trailer disappear. If you're referring to the previously reported bug, which is known then no. You can avoid it by not exiting the truck, or by not using trailer that doesn't belong to you.

If you get stuck, then it's most likely your fault. If you don't offroad then you shouldn't get stuck. The tunnel in LS which is too low for trucks has been also marked properly to prevent players getting stuck there. If you know of any more places, you can report them in appropriate board.
Sometimes the trailer get stuck in walls and there is no possible way to take it out, so will they be helping us in this case?
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TheSandman

Stop now.

Anyway, lol this should be fun i guess....'y u no help me' '30...' '20...' 'cmon i failed cos u'
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CarlJohnson

Quote from: TheSandman on March 25, 2015, 09:19
Stop now.

Anyway, lol this should be fun i guess....'y u no help me' '30...' '20...' 'cmon i failed cos u'
Next will be "Admen xxx lazy to help demote him y u chose so lazy admens demote him nao".
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SpazzBucket.

I really think it is all fine in moderation. Things dont need to be super serious, this is just a game. As long as you arent spamming /admin or whining/complaining I'd think a bit of "funnyness" here and there is just fine, I had fun with it when I was mod and making fun events and activities with friends I couldnt do as a normal player. Theres regular joking in /admin but when things need to get serious the staff dont hesitate to silence the fooling around. Don't overuse it for little things, and like mick says, questions that any old player could answer just ask in main chat, it will get to the admins as well as all other players in the server, giving a lot greater search of a correct answer.

tl;dr I dont agree that /a needs to be strictly for private interactions with staff, have fun some of the time, and staff commands make it even funner without anyone gaining anything unfairly or getting anyone banned
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Quote from: CarlJohnson on March 25, 2015, 09:36
Quote from: TheSandman on March 25, 2015, 09:19
Stop now.

Anyway, lol this should be fun i guess....'y u no help me' '30...' '20...' 'cmon i failed cos u'
Next will be "Admen xxx lazy to help demote him y u chose so lazy admens demote him nao".
:P
Yeah, people are often lazy and admins are people too  ;)
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Konali

You may consider it cheating:)
I always found great joy in helping players that got stuck.
Especially the newer players.


So i find this sad to hear. I had fun helping people that got stuck. It was voluntary to help or not, eventhough i adviced everyone to help as much as possible, since it promotes loyalty towards staff, and better gameplay.


But ah well, i guess, thats just me being nice and all and always thinking about others.
Basically:) im not affraid to say, i think this is a wrong decision. But loyalty and happiness cant be measured in numbers, so its hard to prove;)
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Quote from: TheSandman on November 26, 2012, 13:53
There you go, cop didnt have a car and one was spawned for him.
Admins are helpers, not monsters.
Quote from: Calvingreen17. on January 15, 2013, 20:53
And i just want to take this moment that i have to thank you SO much for giving me the chance to be a moderator. I really enjoyed it, and although I made bad decisions (like playing MW3 too much haha xD), I really really did enjoy helping players like never before. You were my role model, you were the best admin I had seen in years, and there will never be another one like you.

It will take another to replace me, but I dont think CT can recover if they lose you bro, I wish you the best.

(Pretty sure you hear stuff like this every day XD You're like Chuck norris)
Quote from: mick88 on February 12, 2013, 23:28
It's unfair that admins can teleport to buy house, and reset their own camping score, but we have to trust that they won't abuse it. We have to trust them anyway, because the server is in their hands. Without admins server is nothing.

CarlJohnson

Quote from: Konali on May 06, 2015, 13:00
You may consider it cheating:)
I always found great joy in helping players that got stuck.
Especially the newer players.


So i find this sad to hear. I had fun helping people that got stuck. It was voluntary to help or not, eventhough i adviced everyone to help as much as possible, since it promotes loyalty towards staff, and better gameplay.


But ah well, i guess, thats just me being nice and all and always thinking about others.
Basically:) im not affraid to say, i think this is a wrong decision. But loyalty and happiness cant be measured in numbers, so its hard to prove;)
This decision has to been taken to make players understand that admins aren't obliged to help you when you fail to drive properly as well as to make them stop taking admins for granted and reporting them when they didn't helped.
I still feel instead of strictly stopping the admins from helping players it should be made clear that they'll help if they feel like.
Because even admins had fun helping people sometimes and players were happy as well.

Just my 0.2$

Carl.
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Mr.Me

Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 06, 2015, 13:10
Quote from: Konali on May 06, 2015, 13:00
You may consider it cheating:)
I always found great joy in helping players that got stuck.
Especially the newer players.


So i find this sad to hear. I had fun helping people that got stuck. It was voluntary to help or not, eventhough i adviced everyone to help as much as possible, since it promotes loyalty towards staff, and better gameplay.


But ah well, i guess, thats just me being nice and all and always thinking about others.
Basically:) im not affraid to say, i think this is a wrong decision. But loyalty and happiness cant be measured in numbers, so its hard to prove;)
This decision has to been taken to make players understand that admins aren't obliged to help you when you fail to drive properly as well as to make them stop taking admins for granted and reporting them when they didn't helped.
I still feel instead of strictly stopping the admins from helping players it should be made clear that they'll help if they feel like.
Because even admins had fun helping people sometimes and players were happy as well.

Just my 0.2$

Carl.

taking admins for granted and reporting them when they didn't helped. -- not every player reported them when they did not help when i got stuck or something i did /a someone help if not busy

and i got 9/10 times help sometimes they were busy but i did not reported because they are lazy life goes on if i faild my mission i wont cry for 1k-10k
but if they report mods/admins that means they are jeleous of position or they want them to be demoted from that position maybe they dont like them or idk
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Emily

Part of the reason I wanted to be staff was to lend a helping hand. I wanted to help people, but now that's been taken away from me. The only thing left to do is spectate and check stuff. Sure, it's nice to not have to sometimes, but normally when I don't want to, I just go off duty or say, "Busy."

Basically, this makes these commands mostly useless:
  • /summonrig
  • /summoncar
  • /sp and /lp
  • /duty (who cares who's on if we can't help?)
  • I'm sure there's more.
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Boy

i am guilty, i spammed /admin over 1000 times. O:-)

Goodbye my friends :3
Quote from: Konali on January 14, 2014, 21:56
The reason we had so many dutch staff members is because dutch people generally are calm and chill. Just like jamaicans:) If we get mad, we rather first get weed and then rage:)

sardarji

I find this rule stupid seriously....It was always upto staff whether they want to help or not.


AMG

AMG wants to help the  players that still play .. there arent many and i see many "rage quits" because " im not allowed to help " . im getting of doing nothing :D
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Ethan

Quote from: sardarji on May 06, 2015, 21:03
I find this rule stupid seriously....It was always upto staff whether they want to help or not.

It is stupid, I always tried to help whenever anyone asked for it unless I was in WC where if you saved your spot, teleported, helped the person (75% of the time they actually needed help) teleported back, your time was down to about 10-15 seconds....(this was before time changed from 60 to 90) 40% of the time I lost loads because someone found out that they cant turn left at a right turn or they cant figure out that using /stopwork only makes them lose barely anything that cant pickup next time they worked on something..