Convoy Trucking

Server related => General Talk => Topic started by: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 03:45

Title: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 03:45
I'm no one to start an uprising or anything, also as someone who is 125 days out of perspective it's unfair for me to say "do this, fix that, why is this happening"?
I must however inform you, that you, who is part of the current community, have the power. You have the voice and can gain the will to move forward and progress the server. Rather than think of Admins, Mods vs players, think of everyone as a team, with one goal in mind.

I was talking to Ethan on Xfire, so what if previously, the suggestion wasn't allowed? Maybe now is the time the suggestion would suit the server?

Why should people be stuck in the old ways, if they no longer work?

We should welcome creativity, leadership and people who think outside the box, otherwise it's only heading one way. Sure, some people don't care either way, however surely it'd be more fun to have people in convoys, have people striking up good conversation, whether it be server or real life related.

Get community focused, take an interest in those around you on the server, if they talk English, find common ground! You don't need to be in the same "Exclusive club" in order to create and maintain a friendship!

Sharing your cars, offering tips on how to improve, showing the best missions, the best locations, assisting people. It's all apart of being the best, being a community.

It shouldn't be about "can i do 10 loads in an hour" it should be "can i have fun today, and how?" It can't be fun to sit there, planning on doing 100 tow missions in one day, a game should be fun, not a plan, not stressful.

So next time, when you go online, think about how you can better your experience. Because most the time, the answer is, by playing together.

If it's on the do not suggest list, ask "why?", ask "but is that still applicable? Things have changed since that what declined, lets see what Mick says now!".

You have to push it, make your voice heard and try. Because how do you know an answer if you're afraid to ask the question?
No one should be punished for voicing fair, honest, constructive and unharmful feedback. Be it on a 30 day old topic, or suggesting something previously denied.

Coming from me, this is big (only those who remember me would understand why):

Stop hiding behind and or from the rules, some are more guidelines that if bent, won't do any harm, perhaps good!

Have fun, see you on the server

~Lindsey.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Hobo on October 26, 2013, 03:57
Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 03:45
Stop hiding behind and or from the rules, some are more guidelines that if bent, won't do any harm, perhaps good!
Agreed 100%. It's annoying when people stick 100% to the rules when some of them make no sense to enforce at certain times.  :like:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 04:04
Quote from: Hobo on October 26, 2013, 03:57
Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 03:45
Stop hiding behind and or from the rules, some are more guidelines that if bent, won't do any harm, perhaps good!
Agreed 100%. It's annoying when people stick 100% to the rules when some of them make no sense to enforce at certain times.  :like:

It's about context, if administrators and moderators aren't able to adapt, and read into the context of the situation, they should not be considered as people who are trusted to safeguard the server.

It's unfair to have people who can't think on their feet, or for themselves to make a situation better. As an administrator myself, at the time if doing something against the rules made the situation better for those involved. I would do it, hands down. And although it made me a bit of a legend in both ways, Hated and liked, it worked, and i was never demoted. I had tellings off, no one is perfect, but i took the constructive advice on board, and moved on.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Ethan on October 26, 2013, 04:18
#Lindseyforowner2014
#Lindseyforadmin2014

:3 :3 :like: :like: :3 :3
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 04:19
Not my aim, I don't think that would do any good.


But the support is appreciated.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 04:22
Too long couldn't be arsed reading. Good idea however, the parts i read were a nice read, bit optimistic though.

The server is permanently in the mind set of "fuck everyone else but me". It'll be this way til it eventually gets switched off. No post by someone who isnt even that active* anymore is going to change it.

*i say not that active because you're not active.

"I'm no one to start an uprising or anything, however as someone who is 125 days out of perspective it's unfair for me to say "do this, fix that, why is this happening"?"
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 04:33
How active i am doesn't change things, I'm a respected member of the community which, regardless of the current low point, is still a great place to be. Remember, it is what you make it.

I did things here that created so much fun, including spend hours on a Dumper Events on chilliad multiple times using administrative commands, why? Because i wanted to use the commands for fun, show people that we can have a good time, instead of banning people or warning people with them 24/7.

It's about perspective, don't be blinded by my inactivity, be inspired to help the server attain once again, a fantastic status as a respectful and proud place to be.

It's your choice, i can't change your mind, but it only takes one person with the right words to inspire someone.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 04:36
You've got a week to convince me. The community being the way it is made me resign as server scripter. Maybe if things do change and mick takes a few hours each weekend to join his own server, staff team sort their shit out (they know what i mean) maybe then i'll work a bit harder and get updates out, not little ones. The game-changing ones where you actually see them.

Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 04:33
I did things here that created so much fun, including spend hours on a Dumper Events on chilliad multiple times using administrative commands

Done the coach trick yet? :D
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 04:39
Then give your feedback, give your constructive ideas on where things are going wrong.

If you don't voice your opinion, how can people who are causing problems fix that issue? If you point out a problem that a person is directly or indirectly causing and post a way to fix it. You are helping the situation.

If you simply say "oh it's this problem" or "i wish they would do this instead" then it's just another post saying what's wrong. Which just adds to the pile of shit that is building up.

You need to be constructive, it's the only way feedback can be progressed and used.

Glad you've got an open mind, if you have, so do other people, they just need to try.

~Lindsey
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: TheGame on October 26, 2013, 07:23
Want to know how the fun gets back here?
Trading. This was the best time on CT and I just miss it...
More trading = meeting more people = making more friends and help the community.
I don't think other stuff would change much, but this .. trust me, this changes everything.
And no, there's no scamming/abusing at all. Be smart and put a limit on house/vehicle prices, like: Max. 50 percent more/less on houses and 10 percent more and 50 percent less on vehicles.
Problem solved and everyone is happy.
No, Don't say this is bullshit because I have seen it works.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: FaZe1337Sajmon420PL on October 26, 2013, 10:50
Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 03:45
If it's on the do not suggest list, ask "why?", ask "but is that still applicable? Things have changed since that what declined, lets see what Mick says now!".

You have to push it, make your voice heard and try. Because how do you know an answer if you're afraid to ask the question?
No one should be punished for voicing fair, honest, constructive and unharmful feedback. Be it on a 30 day old topic, or suggesting something previously denied.

There's only 1 ending: a staff member quotes you a part from "do no suggest" and your topic gets locked.
Anyway, good luck convincing mick to add something he removed.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Shake on October 26, 2013, 11:19
Quote from: FaZe1337Sajmon420PL on October 26, 2013, 10:50
Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 03:45
If it's on the do not suggest list, ask "why?", ask "but is that still applicable? Things have changed since that what declined, lets see what Mick says now!".

You have to push it, make your voice heard and try. Because how do you know an answer if you're afraid to ask the question?
No one should be punished for voicing fair, honest, constructive and unharmful feedback. Be it on a 30 day old topic, or suggesting something previously denied.

There's only 1 ending: a staff member quotes you a part from "do no suggest" and your topic gets locked.
Anyway, good luck convincing mick to add something he removed.
Exactly this.


Due to the strict rules (some) staff follow, this is more like a dictatorship than a game. A game is supposed to be fun, and that's not what it is right now.


Now, I ask you, why do you think people are leaving? Only because of school? Lol no. School is an important factor yes, but last year people also had school and still played. The community is fucked now. Well, CT itself is fucked.


I wouldn't even bother convincing mick to add stuff we had previously and he removed because that wouldn't do anything since CT is basically "commanded" by staff.


It also seems like suggestion board is useless, since I have yet to see a big suggestion get added. A server should be run by staff and by the players. They should decide some things on the server, which makes them have more fun and such. But due to the staff having such fucking strict rules, that won't happen.


Anyways, I support you Lindsey.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 13:57
Quote from: Hobo on October 26, 2013, 03:57
Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 03:45
Stop hiding behind and or from the rules, some are more guidelines that if bent, won't do any harm, perhaps good!
Agreed 100%. It's annoying when people stick 100% to the rules when some of them make no sense to enforce at certain times.  :like:

Was always the rule i went by in my short time as mod, rules can be bent and flexed its better that way for everyone  8)
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 14:05
Quote from: Dobby. on October 26, 2013, 04:36
You've got a week to convince me. The community being the way it is made me resign as server scripter. Maybe if things do change and mick takes a few hours each weekend to join his own server, staff team sort their shit out (they know what i mean) maybe then i'll work a bit harder and get updates out, not little ones. The game-changing ones where you actually see them.

Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 04:33
I did things here that created so much fun, including spend hours on a Dumper Events on chilliad multiple times using administrative commands

Done the coach trick yet? :D

I've not known you much dobby but from the work ive seen you do so far you must be a swell guy but this isnt how it works my friend. Lindsey doesnt need to 'convince' anyone of what type of person she is or how much she cares, shes shown that more than anyone ive ever seen! The work shes done for this server is crazy and personally the time shes had off has probably opened her mind, a fresh look at things.

The way you say the community made you resign does that not make you think you are as bad as them (in some ways, no disrespect intended). They want the updates you could create, you can make those big game changing updates and make the server fun again, You'd be a legend in their eyes then but instead they see you as the guy that quit and just does the average day to day moderation stuff (also a lot on forums, cookie for that, you do so much on forums which is great!).

Hope you understand what im saying is all the community needs is those changes you speak about and maybe it'll open peoples eyes a bit too how we can be compared to how we are... i may have quit but i still think the effort should be made to get back to the fun days instead of how we are now. Nobody wants the server to 'die' but without updates we have nothing besides a dying community? The updates bring the community together.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Joshy on October 26, 2013, 14:31
Quote from: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 14:05
Quote from: Dobby. on October 26, 2013, 04:36
You've got a week to convince me. The community being the way it is made me resign as server scripter. Maybe if things do change and mick takes a few hours each weekend to join his own server, staff team sort their shit out (they know what i mean) maybe then i'll work a bit harder and get updates out, not little ones. The game-changing ones where you actually see them.

Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 04:33
I did things here that created so much fun, including spend hours on a Dumper Events on chilliad multiple times using administrative commands

Done the coach trick yet? :D

I've not known you much dobby but from the work ive seen you do so far you must be a swell guy but this isnt how it works my friend. Lindsey doesnt need to 'convince' anyone of what type of person she is or how much she cares, shes shown that more than anyone ive ever seen! The work shes done for this server is crazy and personally the time shes had off has probably opened her mind, a fresh look at things.

The way you say the community made you resign does that not make you think you are as bad as them (in some ways, no disrespect intended). They want the updates you could create, you can make those big game changing updates and make the server fun again, You'd be a legend in their eyes then but instead they see you as the guy that quit and just does the average day to day moderation stuff (also a lot on forums, cookie for that, you do so much on forums which is great!).

Hope you understand what im saying is all the community needs is those changes you speak about and maybe it'll open peoples eyes a bit too how we can be compared to how we are... i may have quit but i still think the effort should be made to get back to the fun days instead of how we are now. Nobody wants the server to 'die' but without updates we have nothing besides a dying community? The updates bring the community together.
Dobby has one hell of a point you know... it takes effort to read through uncommented and spaghetti code made when the person who was scripting it was learning it as he was writing it, and then literally put the jigsaw piece in the huge-ass puzzle of what is called Convoy Trucking... why put in the effort when the community needs to be glued back together first?
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 14:33
Quote from: Joshy on October 26, 2013, 14:31
Quote from: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 14:05
Quote from: Dobby. on October 26, 2013, 04:36
You've got a week to convince me. The community being the way it is made me resign as server scripter. Maybe if things do change and mick takes a few hours each weekend to join his own server, staff team sort their shit out (they know what i mean) maybe then i'll work a bit harder and get updates out, not little ones. The game-changing ones where you actually see them.

Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 04:33
I did things here that created so much fun, including spend hours on a Dumper Events on chilliad multiple times using administrative commands

Done the coach trick yet? :D

I've not known you much dobby but from the work ive seen you do so far you must be a swell guy but this isnt how it works my friend. Lindsey doesnt need to 'convince' anyone of what type of person she is or how much she cares, shes shown that more than anyone ive ever seen! The work shes done for this server is crazy and personally the time shes had off has probably opened her mind, a fresh look at things.

The way you say the community made you resign does that not make you think you are as bad as them (in some ways, no disrespect intended). They want the updates you could create, you can make those big game changing updates and make the server fun again, You'd be a legend in their eyes then but instead they see you as the guy that quit and just does the average day to day moderation stuff (also a lot on forums, cookie for that, you do so much on forums which is great!).

Hope you understand what im saying is all the community needs is those changes you speak about and maybe it'll open peoples eyes a bit too how we can be compared to how we are... i may have quit but i still think the effort should be made to get back to the fun days instead of how we are now. Nobody wants the server to 'die' but without updates we have nothing besides a dying community? The updates bring the community together.
Dobby has one hell of a point you know... it takes effort to read through uncommented and spaghetti code made when the person who was scripting it was learning it as he was writing it, and then literally put the jigsaw piece in the huge-ass puzzle of what is called Convoy Trucking... why put in the effort when the community needs to be glued back together first?

oh i don't doubt he has honestly, hes done more than i did a thousand times over! i respect him for that. Personally i think the updates should be the glue to put us back together? think about it without the updates nobody really wants too play as much anymore? so if something new is added a few of us will come back try it out and hopefully together then we have to work as a team instead of against each other all the time
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 15:00
That's my point Joshy, it's not just updates that can save the server, it's the people with the "one for all" or "i only care about a select group of friends" that is the problem, if we can have serverwide events, that aren't club focused getting the whole community involved, more people may make new friends, newbies have a reason to say "wow, that was fun" and stay around to play some more and it's something that possibly might end up on Youtube, which is a bonus.

It's easy to say "oh it's because there's no updates" well, that's a partial reason, people get bored and move on, Ethan said it, he's right, there are a lot of other fun games around that people could play, there is still no reason that every time someone new comes, they can't hang around and build a new community.

The old players need to kick start that off, need to make the newbies feel included, because that's how i stayed when i was a newb, then and only then will people want to spend time updating the game, because at that point, it would be worth the time spent on it.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 15:13
The variables were simple once you get the hang of them. I've still got a few old filterscript tests left on my PC that i was testing (privately) to ensure 0 bugs (compilation takes ages,im impatient). That and a (bit) of MySQL knowledge i have now would work well.

It's not because of the lack of updates, or getting bored of the server. I would of quit long ago, it was due to the fact that every suggestion topic i looked through for ideas on what people would like was locked each time without an explanation. Yes, mick does need to spend time on his own server. I mean c'mon who doesn't want to pester mick all the time right?, i thought, if i'm scripting for someone at least the owner can do is come on the server once and a while to say hello, or his famous "No". Yes, there was updates planned (and probably will go ahead once matias/mick get their answer) that could bring back CT. But its not just down to me, matias, mick or admins.

Its down to the community too. Would you want to play on a server that's plauged by trolls, or people that constantly break rules? I doubt it. As for the last part rockey:

"The updates bring the community together". No, no no and no. The community brings the community together. Everyone gets on well, everyone gets along and us mods can do our work in peace. Since mod i can't remember a time longer than an hour when someone was reported for accidentally crashing into them in a securicar.

tl;dr ? :Sad_Okay:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Benny on October 26, 2013, 15:13
There is alot of stuff that needs to be fixed and done, and with everyone bitching about it won't help or make it work faster. Things are not being made or worked on since there is no point of making it, doing something and then waiting months to actually get it on the server(waiting for mick ofc) just doesn't work anymore. As much as i want to help here i simply can't.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 15:20
Quote from: Benny on October 26, 2013, 15:13
There is alot of stuff that needs to be fixed and done, and with everyone bitching about it won't help or make it work faster. Things are not being made or worked on since there is no point of making it, doing something and then waiting months to actually get it on the server(waiting for mick ofc) just doesn't work anymore. As much as i want to help here i simply can't.

^ This has earned you a cookie benny :) pretty much explained my reason right here why i resigned. You get a GZ Slots? from me :D but yeah i know how you feel, its even worse as scripter seeing a command bug, and knowing you've fixed it, but having months to wait to see it added to main server is rather annoying
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Vinny on October 26, 2013, 16:02
if you're looking for mick, he has much more interesting occupations now.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mick88.friday
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on October 26, 2013, 16:19
When the owner no longer shows a real interest in his project, its bound to negative spirals. We all know that mick hasnt been active anymore since early 2012. Everything after that was just a 1 day inspiration and then 3 months nothing.

The lack of updates make things boring, and to be honest i always considered achievements a thing that destroyed the real fun out of convoy trucking, which was to my opinion the massive convoys of 40 players and above.

I have suggested, i have contacted mick about improving the convoy bonu per player that gets added to the convoy, no response. In the end it is convoy trucking, but it hasnt felt like that since achievements got added to my opinion.

another thing i want to state out is, that im dissapointed into the scripters that mick hired. All they did achieve to my opinion was locking topics, promissing stuff but in reality just showing off their power. Little suggestion they promised never got added and so on. I have not stated this before, but i really felt the scripting rank was abused to show some sort of power glory. Thats how i feel about it, and thats what killed my fun for CT.

After all this is my opinion, and it is feedback in some sort of way.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 16:35
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 16:19
another thing i want to state out is, that im dissapointed into the scripters that mick hired. All they did achieve to my opinion was locking topics, promissing stuff but in reality just showing off their power. Little suggestion they promised never got added and so on. I have not stated this before, but i really felt the scripting rank was abused to show some sort of power glory. Thats how i feel about it, and thats what killed my fun for CT.

Please, tell me where i even flaunted this so called "power" if you actually paid attention Konali you'd see, that i made changes as well as Matias, like i said @ the dev board..

I'm not going to push game changing updates to the server while theres bug reports open

Achievements killing CT: i agree with you.

My main note: Who shit in your coffee today? you know me and matias were making changes, of which im not going to post here, since the server hasn't been updated since changes were made, so said bugs are still there.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 16:54
This isn't an argument Dobby, if you don't like his opinion and want to argue what he thinks is the problem, do that in PM.

It's not about attacking each other, it's about finding the problems and fixing what WE can, just because mick isn't around doesn't mean we have to sit here blaming him.

How easy is that?
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Matias on October 26, 2013, 17:01
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 16:19
another thing i want to state out is, that im dissapointed into the scripters that mick hired. All they did achieve to my opinion was locking topics, promissing stuff but in reality just showing off their power. Little suggestion they promised never got added and so on. I have not stated this before, but i really felt the scripting rank was abused to show some sort of power glory. Thats how i feel about it, and thats what killed my fun for CT.

That's what you think? Okey, go ahead, remove me from scripters team. You know dobby and me have alot of stuff planned. But i didn't have the fucking time due to exams. Go ahead, remove me, i dont honestly care anymore.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 17:08
Quote from: Foose on October 26, 2013, 17:01
That's what you think? Okey, go ahead, remove me from scripters team. You know dobby and me have alot of stuff planned. But i didn't have the fucking time due to exams. Go ahead, remove me, i dont honestly care anymore.

Xfire me if you ever need help. I'll make the code, just not making it "official" i don't want the script in my possesion until i make the decision we mentioned.

Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 16:54
This isn't an argument Dobby, if you don't like his opinion and want to argue what he thinks is the problem, do that in PM.

No

Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 16:54
It's not about attacking each other, it's about finding the problems and fixing what WE can, just because mick isn't around doesn't mean we have to sit here blaming him.

That's what im doing in this thread. I'm not "casting" blame. Its the truth. Mick's a cool guy, Konali's a cool guy, but honestly, we all have flaws. I act too quick with reports, Matias faps too much (joke) Konali needs to stop expecting so much. Mick needs to say Yes. You have flaws too Lindsey. I assumed since you made this topic, why can't we discuss each "flaw" in the server and fix it here. In full view of everyone. Instead of behind a steadily declining staff team.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:08
Exactly what i meant, you guys cant take feedback and immediatly think that equals resigning etc.
What i meant and what i noticed since you guys became scripter , the ''i know everything better attitude's''. Yes mick has a list of suggestions rejected in the past, but does it fucking hurt to let CT players discuss in a good suggestion topic. I didnt say you didnt do things at all, but you guys made promisses you couldnt keep. Then that comes back to bite you in the ass.
All i have been hearing from you matias is you had exams for the last 4 months, i mean, really??
Just my opinion, dont like it, then well that sucks man.
Like lindsey said, its just not needed to lock every topic immediatly and act like a mick, ''NO''. Im only talking about alot of good suggestions i have seen lately and all getting locked because you guys are now scripter and suddenly think that its best for the server to lock everything without thinking about it actually and pitching it to mick. In the end, if the community wants it, i would always consider something like that, and if it cant work, i would provide good reasons why not.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Matias on October 26, 2013, 17:11
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:08
Exactly what i meant, you guys cant take feedback and immediatly think that equals resigning etc.
What i meant and what i noticed since you guys became scripter , the ''i know everything better attitude's''. Yes mick has a list of suggestions rejected in the past, but does it fucking hurt to let CT players discuss in a good suggestion topic. I didnt say you didnt do things at all, but you guys made promisses you couldnt keep. Then that comes back to bite you in the ass.
All i have been hearing from you matias is you had exams for the last 4 months, i mean, really??
Just my opinion, dont like it, then well that sucks man.
Like lindsey said, its just not needed to lock every topic immediatly and act like a mick, ''NO''. Im only talking about alot of good suggestions i have seen lately and all getting locked because you guys are now scripter and suddenly think that its best for the server to lock everything without thinking about it actually and pitching it to mick. In the end, if the community wants it, i would always consider something like that, and if it cant work, i would provide good reasons why not.

It gets locked for a fucking reason, we have access to the script, we know how it works, and we know it wont be possible to add it in a proper way. But meh, i dont have to explain you how it works, by the way, i left scripters team, you can try and script everything what mick wanted. I finally graduated yesterday from high school, i was gonna work on the tasks but meh, looks like people doesnt have patience.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Sjomp on October 26, 2013, 17:15
Why were this topics even locked:
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,42560.0.html
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,43032.0.html
by locking these topics it looked like you guys did this to mick:
(http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/Don__t_Look.jpg)
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Matias on October 26, 2013, 17:17
Quote from: Sjomp on October 26, 2013, 17:15
Why were this topics even locked:
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,42560.0.html
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,43032.0.html
by locking these topics it looked like you guys did this to mick:
(http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/Don__t_Look.jpg)

Because it will end in nothing, you want mick to be banned forever because of not paying attention to his own server? You want mick to give the ownership to another guy (just lol, you must be joking).
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 17:20
Zwarts topic; Admins (from my knowledge) have never ran a server as owner before ( could be wrong here ) would you give your server you worked so hard on over to someone who hasn't done such a thing before? He can't give admins access to server stuff since there isnt an FTP/UCP built in there. Mick would probably have to make one himself.

Marccs topic; locked purely for the fact that it was spam. not to mention the caboose that ensured from it.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Matias on October 26, 2013, 17:21
I just hope that CT gets some scripter that doesn't give a fuck about his real life and sit 24 hours making updates so the guys doesn't get so annoyed for the lack of updates. Just my 2 cents.  :like:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 17:23
Quote from: Foose on October 26, 2013, 17:21
I just hope that CT gets some scripter that doesn't give a fuck about his real life and sit 24 hours making updates so the guys doesn't get so annoyed for the lack of updates. Just my 2 cents.  :like:

Like i said to you. I'd return only if we got a bit of input/cooperation from mick. The staff team actually learn to get on, not arguing etc, or making up rules.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:23
I think what sjomp just prooves was exactly what i meant earlier. Eventhough those topics are not the best topics i have seen, locking them in a rather arrogant '' i know what im doing since im scriper manner'' shows all of us that if you guys ever really did wanted to change something, i twould never been community input and just just your two guys. I gave both of you important gamechanging ideas, one agreed the other didnt, ok that happens, but honestly you guys never took the effort to listen to the community.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: TheSandman on October 26, 2013, 17:24
Quote from: Dobby. on October 26, 2013, 17:20
Zwarts topic; Admins (from my knowledge) have never ran a server as owner before ( could be wrong here ) would you give your server you worked so hard on over to someone who hasn't done such a thing before? He can't give admins access to server stuff since there isnt an FTP/UCP built in there. Mick would probably have to make one himself.
Theres a few of us here that have experience with servers, Hax has been doing it for many years, decades even, im not sure. Ive been studying it for this whole year. Plus ive been running a Minecraft server with a friend lately. You just have to find different people, because you rarely ever find professional programmers and network administrators in the same person.
Theres tonnes of us that are capable, having Mick on their side, active or not, he can still guide whomever is running it along.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Matias on October 26, 2013, 17:25
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:23
I think what sjomp just prooves was exactly what i meant earlier. Eventhough those topics are not the best topics i have seen, locking them in a rather arrogant '' i know what im doing since im scriper manner'' shows all of us that if you guys ever really did wanted to change something, i twould never been community input and just just your two guys. I gave both of you important gamechanging ideas, one agreed the other didnt, ok that happens, but honestly you guys never took the effort to listen to the community.

That's why i resigned, so you have a chance to show how goooooood you are at scripting, go ahead, go and script all the tasks mick wanted, listen to the community and script all the stupid stuff they suggest. I am sure you will be an awesome scripter because Dobby and me sucks and we only abused and was the worst scripters ever.  :like:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 17:28
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:23
I think what sjomp just prooves was exactly what i meant earlier. Eventhough those topics are not the best topics i have seen, locking them in a rather arrogant '' i know what im doing since im scriper manner'' shows all of us that if you guys ever really did wanted to change something, i twould never been community input and just just your two guys. I gave both of you important gamechanging ideas, one agreed the other didnt, ok that happens, but honestly you guys never took the effort to listen to the community.

I'll re-read that later, once you stop talking down to me. Just saying.

Quote from: TheSandman on October 26, 2013, 17:24
Theres a few of us here that have experience with servers, ive been studying it for this whole year. Plus ive been running a Minecraft server with a friend lately. You just have to find different people, because you rarely ever find professional programmers and network administrators in the same person.
Theres tonnes of us that are capable, having Mick on their side, active or not, he can still guide whomever is running it along.

Thats why i said from my knowledge, i didn't know. What we need is an active* team**

*Active both in game, and forums. Doing moderation job

**Team as in team work. Cooperation, It's nice to have a server that actually runs like clockwork. Not gonna discuss it here, but i think we need to assign more roles to admins/moderators, since some are active at the forum more than in game. (Just a thought.), we could also help Joshy webdev side, mick with the gamemode dev. someone in charge of stopping/restarting the server (prior server experience like you mentioned TS). There's tonnes of things that could be done. Can we discuss this at the staff section maybe? seperate topic?

Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:30
Quote from: Foose on October 26, 2013, 17:25
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:23
I think what sjomp just prooves was exactly what i meant earlier. Eventhough those topics are not the best topics i have seen, locking them in a rather arrogant '' i know what im doing since im scriper manner'' shows all of us that if you guys ever really did wanted to change something, i twould never been community input and just just your two guys. I gave both of you important gamechanging ideas, one agreed the other didnt, ok that happens, but honestly you guys never took the effort to listen to the community.

That's why i resigned, so you have a chance to show how goooooood you are at scripting, go ahead, go and script all the tasks mick wanted, listen to the community and script all the stupid stuff they suggest. I am sure you will be an awesome scripter because Dobby and me sucks and we only abused and was the worst scripters ever.  :like:


That exact attitude , shows all of us , that the power you got from mick went to your head. I am not a scripter you know that, so that whole argument is invalid.  All i said in this topic was, we are a community with alot of voices, but it doesnt help when you are so stubborn or arrogant and just turned into a cocky dude.


If you really wanted to help CT, you would have said, ok, gimme some examples of good things we could consider etc etc. But no, all i read is, ''I'' ''We'' . It aint a power show bro.


@ dobby, you where actually doing quite well. You actually have an eye for suggestions. I am sorry you left because i am sure you could have brought CT to greater heights.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 17:34
Alright before it goes any further stop arguing over who has more power or i'll forum warn  C:-)

I was always looking @ mapping board to see what parts of the CT maps i could incorporate into the script somehow.

Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:30
you where actually doing quite well. You actually have an eye for suggestions. I am sorry you left because i am sure you could have brought CT to greater heights.

Thanks. Just because i'm gone it doesn't mean i won't help from time to time, and who knows, i may take it back up soon  ::)
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Vinny on October 26, 2013, 17:37
Quote from: Foose on October 26, 2013, 17:25
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:23
I think what sjomp just prooves was exactly what i meant earlier. Eventhough those topics are not the best topics i have seen, locking them in a rather arrogant '' i know what im doing since im scriper manner'' shows all of us that if you guys ever really did wanted to change something, i twould never been community input and just just your two guys. I gave both of you important gamechanging ideas, one agreed the other didnt, ok that happens, but honestly you guys never took the effort to listen to the community.

That's why i resigned, so you have a chance to show how goooooood you are at scripting, go ahead, go and script all the tasks mick wanted, listen to the community and script all the stupid stuff they suggest. I am sure you will be an awesome scripter because Dobby and me sucks and we only abused and was the worst scripters ever.  :like:
thats the most QQ message i have ever seen. What konali says is exactly my thought especially for you you became one big arrogant kid since you were scripter but other than locking topics and being on exams for 4 months ive never seen you do anything. And now suddenly when such a topic appears you "graduated yesterday and wanted to work now", just lol.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Matias on October 26, 2013, 17:38
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:30
That exact attitude , shows all of us , that the power you got from mick went to your head. I am not a scripter you know that, so that whole argument is invalid.  All i said in this topic was, we are a community with alot of voices, but it doesnt help when you are so stubborn or arrogant and just turned into a cocky dude.


If you really wanted to help CT, you would have said, ok, gimme some examples of good things we could consider etc etc. But no, all i read is, ''I'' ''We'' . It aint a power show bro.

Even if i actually cared to make updates and doesnt care about school, after the first update people would want another, updates arent the problem.
What people needs is some fucking PATIENCE, they want everything to be done instantly. Thats not how it works. And thats not how it will work, thats the way bugs are being done.
But as i said, if you considered i didn't do anything, then there you go, i resigned, so you have the enjoyment to feel you was right. All i wanted was to help CT. But looks like anything you do isn't enough to feed the server.
And like i said, i hope CT gets some scripter that actually spents 24 hours scripting stuff and doesn't give a fuck about his real life.
Honestly, between being scripter of CT or graduate from high school and get a decent job, i prefer the 2nd one. CT doesn't feed me or buys me a car. Just sayin.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: TheGame on October 26, 2013, 17:42
Just to clarify:
THIS server is DEAD, NOTING you can do about it anymore.
Dead=Dead..
For god sake, you can't do anything about it anymore ... noting will be added .. Please shut it down.
(http://i.imgur.com/2f1tZUQ.jpg)
This is the fking truth and trust me... the end is nearby..
(http://i.imgur.com/UCZE74O.gif)
Thanks for your time.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 17:46
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 16:19
When the owner no longer shows a real interest in his project, its bound to negative spirals. We all know that mick hasnt been active anymore since early 2012. Everything after that was just a 1 day inspiration and then 3 months nothing.

The lack of updates make things boring, and to be honest i always considered achievements a thing that destroyed the real fun out of convoy trucking, which was to my opinion the massive convoys of 40 players and above.

I have suggested, i have contacted mick about improving the convoy bonu per player that gets added to the convoy, no response. In the end it is convoy trucking, but it hasnt felt like that since achievements got added to my opinion.

another thing i want to state out is, that im dissapointed into the scripters that mick hired. All they did achieve to my opinion was locking topics, promissing stuff but in reality just showing off their power. Little suggestion they promised never got added and so on. I have not stated this before, but i really felt the scripting rank was abused to show some sort of power glory. Thats how i feel about it, and thats what killed my fun for CT.

After all this is my opinion, and it is feedback in some sort of way.

This is so true   :-\
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:51
Quote from: TheGame on October 26, 2013, 17:42
Just to clarify:
THIS server is DEAD, NOTING you can do about it anymore.
Dead=Dead..
For god sake, you can't do anything about it anymore ... noting will be added .. Please shut it down.
(http://i.imgur.com/2f1tZUQ.jpg)
This is the fking truth and trust me... the end is nearby..
(http://i.imgur.com/UCZE74O.gif)
Thanks for your time.


Go play Pilots life you idiot :D :3
There are still people here that care about CT, it doesnt matter if they have been inactive 125 days or 2 days, everyone that enjoyed CT just knows what they are talking about.


I think these suggestions would help the server in a simple way in the near future.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Benny on October 26, 2013, 17:52
All i can see here is fighting with each other, won't bring you anything.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:54
Quote from: Benny on October 26, 2013, 17:52
All i can see here is fighting with each other, won't bring you anything.


Its not fighting, its arguing with constructive feedback. The persons that dont get that and cannot handle that, will start fights, then i agree with you.
But all i saw here was heated conversations and irrational emotions.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 17:55
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:51
Quote from: TheGame on October 26, 2013, 17:42
Just to clarify:
THIS server is DEAD, NOTING you can do about it anymore.
Dead=Dead..
For god sake, you can't do anything about it anymore ... noting will be added .. Please shut it down.
(http://i.imgur.com/2f1tZUQ.jpg)
This is the fking truth and trust me... the end is nearby..
(http://i.imgur.com/UCZE74O.gif)
Thanks for your time.


Go play Pilots life you idiot :D :3
There are still people here that care about CT, it doesnt matter if they have been inactive 125 days or 2 days, everyone that enjoyed CT just knows what they are talking about.


I think these suggestions would help the server in a simple way in the near future.

       
  • Improve convoy bonus. Stimulate that 40+ convoy feeling again.
  • (maybe) Car trading, just for the fun and give an extra dimension to carshows.
  • No more achievements PLEASE.
  • Complete the mission variarty to island like MC/sandus.
  • Allow staff to held regular events paid from server money.
  • (maybe) change the host location
  • Businesses ( for example, make every gas station ownable and set own prices ( with a min/max rate offcourse)
  • Allow us admins to do something about club bases being hogged, but we are limited if it comes to this. '' Yes we can audit them but thats all we can do actually'' I would suggest, if we find a club base to be breaking rules, lets increase the base price for a month as penalty and stimulation to get things organised again.
  • and more.

You basically listed everything thats wrong right now and gave a solution and honestly, i know, if these things or even a couple where done.. i'd be straight back in again playing as much as i could (a levels suck!)... All these things would add a entire new level to the server, freshen things up and the idea of trades and businesses would really spark a more social community and more interaction between players besides ramming  :-[
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Vinny on October 26, 2013, 17:56
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:51
I think these suggestions would help the server in a simple way in the near future.

       
  • Improve convoy bonus. Stimulate that 40+ convoy feeling again.
  • (maybe) Car trading, just for the fun and give an extra dimension to carshows.
  • No more achievements PLEASE.
  • Complete the mission variarty to island like MC/sandus.
  • Allow staff to held regular events paid from server money.
  • (maybe) change the host location
  • Businesses ( for example, make every gas station ownable and set own prices ( with a min/max rate offcourse)
  • Allow us admins to do something about club bases being hogged, but we are limited if it comes to this. '' Yes we can audit them but thats all we can do actually'' I would suggest, if we find a club base to be breaking rules, lets increase the base price for a month as penalty and stimulation to get things organised again.
  • and more.

Exactly. Daaaaamn i can't even imagine how much it would improve the server i just don't understand why such things are "banned" from the suggesion board this is insane.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 17:56
@Konali , suggest them ;) add them all to one suggestion. I have an idea for them :)

@TheGame oh you look like a preacher xD i laughed, im not sure if you're trolling or not.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 17:58
Quote from: Vinny on October 26, 2013, 17:56
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:51
I think these suggestions would help the server in a simple way in the near future.

       
  • Improve convoy bonus. Stimulate that 40+ convoy feeling again.
  • (maybe) Car trading, just for the fun and give an extra dimension to carshows.
  • No more achievements PLEASE.
  • Complete the mission variarty to island like MC/sandus.
  • Allow staff to held regular events paid from server money.
  • (maybe) change the host location
  • Businesses ( for example, make every gas station ownable and set own prices ( with a min/max rate offcourse)
  • Allow us admins to do something about club bases being hogged, but we are limited if it comes to this. '' Yes we can audit them but thats all we can do actually'' I would suggest, if we find a club base to be breaking rules, lets increase the base price for a month as penalty and stimulation to get things organised again.
  • and more.

Exactly. Daaaaamn i can't even imagine how much it would improve the server i just don't understand why such things are "banned" from the suggesion board this is insane.

I played and kinda co-owned/owned (it got shut down, we got the code as my friend was a friend of the owner, we started it up again) a server with businesses and it was fucking awesome, even though i could spawn myself money i enjoyed making it and buying a business just to say to the guys i played with, i own that.

Its such a cool feature and adds something new todo/aim for, right now what do we work for? we dont work for fun, we work for achievements, houses, cars and clubs etc..
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 18:18
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:51
Quote from: TheGame on October 26, 2013, 17:42
Just to clarify:
THIS server is DEAD, NOTING you can do about it anymore.
Dead=Dead..
For god sake, you can't do anything about it anymore ... noting will be added .. Please shut it down.
(http://i.imgur.com/2f1tZUQ.jpg)
This is the fking truth and trust me... the end is nearby..
(http://i.imgur.com/UCZE74O.gif)
Thanks for your time.


Go play Pilots life you idiot :D :3
There are still people here that care about CT, it doesnt matter if they have been inactive 125 days or 2 days, everyone that enjoyed CT just knows what they are talking about.


I think these suggestions would help the server in a simple way in the near future.

       
  • Improve convoy bonus. Stimulate that 40+ convoy feeling again.
  • (maybe) Car trading, just for the fun and give an extra dimension to carshows.
  • No more achievements PLEASE.
  • Complete the mission variarty to island like MC/sandus.
  • Allow staff to held regular events paid from server money.
  • (maybe) change the host location
  • Businesses ( for example, make every gas station ownable and set own prices ( with a min/max rate offcourse)
  • Allow us admins to do something about club bases being hogged, but we are limited if it comes to this. '' Yes we can audit them but thats all we can do actually'' I would suggest, if we find a club base to be breaking rules, lets increase the base price for a month as penalty and stimulation to get things organised again.
  • and more.

This.

Exactly what we all are thinking.

I was talking to Ethan last night about "business sense" and yes, this isn't a business, it's a game, however for mick and his server to be successful, it needs to be run with "business sense".

What sense does it make, to build bomb proof windows, if all the doors are open?

What sense does it make, to build a ddos protected server, if it's too laggy for the majority to play on?

The majority of the server playerbase before i left were European, yet the server was moved to America, hosted by a primarily web based company, not game based simply for that protection.

I see why mick did this, he did it to protect the server, we were in a dark place, constant crashes and unplayable. However it was wrong, there are ddos protected servers in Europe.

The main loss for me of this game was going from an average 30-50 ping, to 180-200 ping, some people went higher. A lot of people when they first try to play somewhere, they don't scope out the community, the bonuses, the fun that could be had, they generally search for "high amount of players + lowish ping", then they scope out the community. I won't "establish" myself anywhere, if i have to put him with constant latency.

As for trading, yes, players need the ability to control their finances, car shows would be so different! Just imagine someone rolling up in a car you want, and someone says "Can i buy that?" it's sold to that player and they win the car show, fantastic, player bonding and luck.

Scamming, scamming is naughty, but at the end of the day the players fault for being scammed, if trading is bought in, scamming from trades should NOT be reportable, this is the main reason why people are worried about it, the forums will be overloaded with people complaining about stolen cars.

Middlemen are the way to move forward, you have one neutral person you both trust, who takes the money, and the car off the people selling, he then puts the car to the person buying, and the money to the person selling while taking a 5% transaction fee. Thus, he makes money for his time, the two people trading get what they need.

Garages, ok, so we have houses, what about those who don't want or need a house? A Garage allotment somewhere would be awesome, 100k - 300k per car, can't spawn there, but it enables you to buy a car, the most slots you have i.e. you buy a 10 slot garage, you're allowed 10 cars, achievements do not give you 4x cars in the garage idea. It's a new idea, that's different, scary, but could work!

There is an infinite source of games out there, that you don't necessarily need to copy, but can use for inspiration, to implement into CT.

Open your minds, and for god sake, only except a no from Mick if your idea is good, constructive and fair.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 18:39
that garage idea... so good!! that would add benefits for new players too, we all the know the guy who joins 'how much is truck pls?' 'where me buy a truck?' 'oh i need house?' 'where me buy house?' 'house too much money though!' few minutes later they quit..

+1 for garages!!

would be easy to map too, could work in many ways.. personally id say best to have a place, kinda like club base island with some garages. Dont know if it'd be best to use a system that used one simple garage that has a CP zone which you enter then select the car you want to spawn. This way you can have a 'master garage' that everyone uses or even a few of them and each time you want more slots you have too enter the shop and buy more.. could be complicated though
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 18:42
Do you know what i find nice about this whole topic?

There is an actual discussion going on, which is constructive, nice, on topic and friendly.

So it can be done, this is proof there is still a community, us people on this thread are only the tip of the iceberg.

Really happy how this thread is going.

:)

Thank you :D That just came to me while i was replying to Konali, no idea where it came from O_o
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 18:46
another system like garages i think could work..

you go to the shop, purchase a 'slot' (could name it differently)
you can get anywhere between 1 - x slots (x is how many mick, coder thinks is acceptable)
then you can park in public car parks/clubs/truck stops..

without the need for a house it means guys like me who only play from time to time and don't want to hog houses can still keep those cars we enjoy using or the trucks we need to pay our debts (sandman, i'll pay you eventually  O:-) )

its garages, without the garages
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on October 26, 2013, 18:51
Maybe garages and similair things will work :)


I think wannabes/ newer players deserve some attention too.
I have seen many wannabes/ rookies that quit CT because the 100 truck load threshold for a house seems so high, and i have to agree.
I think lowering it to 50 would be ok, and stimulate rookies to keep playing here.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 18:54
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 18:51
Maybe garages and similair things will work :)


I think wannabes/ newer players deserve some attention too.
I have seen many wannabes/ rookies that quit CT because the 100 truck load threshold for a house seems so high, and i have to agree.
I think lowering it to 50 would be ok, and stimulate rookies to keep playing here.

Thats the beauty of this suggestion, the new guys get a simple and fast way to own vehicles. The veterans get a cheaper alternative, also the chance of a nice house becoming free would be increased because some guys may prefer garages. The semi-quit guys like me get to keep those cars they love and still have a decent way to earn money. Its a win, win situation for everyone. The only bad i see in this system is the time to code and possibly a large amount of cars on the map at once but thats why you limit the amount a garage.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 18:59
Also Rockey to add to that, this is why the 4x slot bonus from the achievements doesn't apply to garages, what you buy is what you get. And should be limited to possibly 5 vehicles, maybe 6.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 19:08
Quote from: Lindsey on October 26, 2013, 18:59
Also Rockey to add to that, this is why the 4x slot bonus from the achievements doesn't apply to garages, what you buy is what you get. And should be limited to possibly 5 vehicles, maybe 6.

if its limited it shouldn't cost too much especially for 1-2 slots but if it was allowed to have high slot garages they should become more expensive in my opinion
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 19:50
:) while i like the discussion here about houses, im going to say this:

IIRC streamers (especially incogntios) can have up to 2000 pickups on screen at once (streamed in*) It's a good idea :) carry on disussing it howerver:

Garages and stuff fall into the major game changer category. I will consider them. But only when the bug reports section is relatively free and there isn't an update waiting to be pushed to main server.


^ if any of that made sense good ;P im tired typing this xD


good ideas guys keep em coming

*ill stress test the plugin on my own server, as well as CT's script server and get results :)

Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Supreme on October 26, 2013, 20:02
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 20:05
I assumed i answered that supreme :o

/me accidently saved it while editing :P
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rockey on October 26, 2013, 20:09
i thank you for your time and consideration mr dobby, here have a sock!  :3

(http://i.imgur.com/B231uRw.jpg)
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Supreme on October 26, 2013, 20:12
First of all change forum host, it sucks  :like:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 26, 2013, 20:14
Quote from: Supreme on October 26, 2013, 20:12
First of all change forum host, it sucks  :like:

If i remember we're with Volt Host. That would involve finding a reliable webhost, maybe if we get a new server, the host may do webhosting and do it for free. I don't want to be the one that has to backup the entire forum though :lol:

Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Marccc on October 26, 2013, 21:07
I dont want to say much but 5 pages of replies without one of mick...

(http://static.eventplanner.be/imgs/xl3996_sportpaleis-plaatst-oordopjesautomaat.jpg)(http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/maxfx/maxfx0807/maxfx080700028/3364812-businessman-with-hands-over-his-eyes.jpg)
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 00:40
I reviewed the whole "do not suggest" and did a list of what should be removed from it, and should be considered:

• spikes for cops that breaks suspect's tyres
Thats just an awesome idea if scripted correctly.

• Bank loans
Not everyone can rely on a friend to lend him money he needs instantly (to buy a house for example) so bank loans would be a great possibility if correctly scripted/moderated.

• New Gas stations/Areas
No comment lol ... If you can't suggest maps, how is the map supposed to be upgraded. Everyone should have his voice regarding maps.

• Anything about trading/selling
I (and probably a lot of people) think that trading, especially car trading would be one FUCKING AWESOME feature for ct

• tanker/airplane/tow truck convoys
I'm a part of these who enjoy Tanker convoys with friends, because it rocks. Now airplanes should also be doable in convoy, maybe not in real life but it would be cool in a game.

• ANY new type of mission
Same opinion like the mapping suggestions.

• Tanker missions for liquids other than petrol
Would be cool to have different load/unloads and different pay grades depending on the hauled materials.

• Vandalizing speedtraps
Thats interresting, imagine you can vandalize a speedtrap, you would get wanted, but the speedtrap would be disabled for like 5 mins OR another idea is cops have to repair the speedtraps and get paid for doing it (but thats just a few basic ideas of mine, could be more developped)

• boat missions
We do have land missions, air missions, why not sea missions ? Just imagine a Convoy of boats ... would be great

• packer missions
Got the idea to use packers to haul the wrecked cars towed with towtrucks and bring them to the waste dump. Or just use packers to deliver brand new cars to the car dealers and getting better pay regarding the cars delivered (if you bring infernus bullets etc to OTTO's auto you will get huge pay, bring "shitty cars" to coutt and shutz, get a lower pay etc ...)

• paying fines at a specific place and not to cops
I have rarely seen paying fines directly to the officers irl, its more about going to an office etc.

• being able to gamble in casinos/in general
That would be so cool, (if possible) imagine a few players sitting at the same table in a casino and playing Poker together, would be soooooo coool

• buying businesses to make extra money
This has already been discussed here and we know it would be fucking great
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Shake on October 27, 2013, 01:21
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 00:40
I reviewed the whole "do not suggest" and did a list of what should be removed from it, and should be considered:

• spikes for cops that breaks suspect's tyres
Thats just an awesome idea if scripted correctly.

• Bank loans
Not everyone can rely on a friend to lend him money he needs instantly (to buy a house for example) so bank loans would be a great possibility if correctly scripted/moderated.

• New Gas stations/Areas
No comment lol ... If you can't suggest maps, how is the map supposed to be upgraded. Everyone should have his voice regarding maps.

• Anything about trading/selling
I (and probably a lot of people) think that trading, especially car trading would be one FUCKING AWESOME feature for ct

• tanker/airplane/tow truck convoys
I'm a part of these who enjoy Tanker convoys with friends, because it rocks. Now airplanes should also be doable in convoy, maybe not in real life but it would be cool in a game.

• ANY new type of mission
Same opinion like the mapping suggestions.

• Tanker missions for liquids other than petrol
Would be cool to have different load/unloads and different pay grades depending on the hauled materials.

• Vandalizing speedtraps
Thats interresting, imagine you can vandalize a speedtrap, you would get wanted, but the speedtrap would be disabled for like 5 mins OR another idea is cops have to repair the speedtraps and get paid for doing it (but thats just a few basic ideas of mine, could be more developped)

• boat missions
We do have land missions, air missions, why not sea missions ? Just imagine a Convoy of boats ... would be great

• packer missions
Got the idea to use packers to haul the wrecked cars towed with towtrucks and bring them to the waste dump. Or just use packers to deliver brand new cars to the car dealers and getting better pay regarding the cars delivered (if you bring infernus bullets etc to OTTO's auto you will get huge pay, bring "shitty cars" to coutt and shutz, get a lower pay etc ...)

• paying fines at a specific place and not to cops
I have rarely seen paying fines directly to the officers irl, its more about going to an office etc.

• being able to gamble in casinos/in general
That would be so cool, (if possible) imagine a few players sitting at the same table in a casino and playing Poker together, would be soooooo coool

• buying businesses to make extra money
This has already been discussed here and we know it would be fucking great
EVERY FUCKING SINGLE THING HERE WOULD BRING CT BACK TO 100/100 PLAYERS INSTANTLY
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 27, 2013, 01:40
Spikes:

Easy :) would be a fun thing to script and add. Add extra parameters. Wouldn't happen on this host however. I think it requires a timer. The functions are there in the gamemode however, it rquires a getplayerpos check and a ISPlayerInRangeOfPoint check.

Bank loans:

You can /work :)

Gas stations/areas:
I presume that was added because of the gas stations where you can't hold spacebar (not added to the DB) people were suggesting it? i've never seen a suggestion like that.

Trading/Selling:
Under discussion.

tanker/airplane/tow truck convoys:
I like the tow truck one :) seems to remind me of Lizard Lick Towing. I'll think about this.

ANY new type of mission.
No comment :)

Tanker missions for liquids other than petrol.
Easy :) but it would destroy the current fuel system. I'm not for this.

Vandalizing speedtraps:
Possible, seems a great idea. Im for this. But not on this host

boat missions:
No comment.

packer missions:
Would the car have to be on the packer? not possible in sa-mp without a timer and it would (likely) cause lag. Not on this host.

paying fines at specific place.
Easy :) pickup at X Y Z. when a player enters said pickup. foreach(Player,i) get team, if team isnt cop. (No cops on) then let them pay. but a percentage is taken on top of it. I'm for this :) great idea. Don't see why it was even added to the list.

being able to gamble in casinos:
No,no no and no. Not unless we made our own (Sounds fun to do actually) they cant be made enterable. There's no way to assign variables, such as IsPlayerGambling yet. There's probably a nifty stock out there somewhere but i havent seen it. Not on this host. Not on this version of sa-mp.

Buying businesses.
I can make a business script easily :) now i know MYSQL loading/saving data, that and add it to the interest timer. You can get "earnings" then. Not sure how i'd make it work as of yet though :) not saying no however.



What i mean:

Not on this host: - The host is laggy. Adding a loop or an extra timer has to be thought about a lot by me, if it'll cause more lag at peak times etc. The current host cant handle much without sending smokey crazy (i have a way around this. It'd require some persuading of course to mick).

Not on this version. There really isn't that many callbacks missing in sa-mp now that you wanna use. sure you can probably make your own, but nothing beats native scripts. If you have prior scripting knowledge: http://wiki.sa-mp.com/wiki/Category:Scripting_Callbacks

There's my views on this matter :)

Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 01:49
Kinda off topic but see what i found
http://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?t=415195
Look how much people ask for the ip after seeing the map. CT has a HUGE potential and we must exploit this.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on October 27, 2013, 01:53
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 01:49
Kinda off topic but see what i found
http://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?t=415195
Look how much people ask for the ip after seeing the map. CT has a HUGE potential and we must exploit this.

Saw that a while back :) my sig @ SAMP forums is CT i believe. We gotta get a trailer sorted for CT :D something we can actually share via FB,G+, YT Etc. I remember mick stating hes never advertised CT @ SA-MP forums so we can't do that (you gotta be server owner to do it)
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 27, 2013, 01:08
I like everything Vinny suggested, but i agree with Dobby where as most would require us to be on a better host.

As for Vinnys "off-topic" far from it, that video was fantastic, it shows off the great mapping the server has, but not just that, the time people put into it.

Anyone who has mapped for this server would realise that mapping is slow, errors are made and it takes a long time.

I myself mapped bayside bus / coach station about 5 different ways until we came to an agreement on the current design, it wasn't intrusive, it fit in well, i was also happy with the low amount of objects needed thus putting no strain on the server load.

It's fun to map, but it's your baby, takes a lot of time for even the little things. So those people who have all mapped on the server on a far larger scale than i have, should be proud of what they did and not allow it all to go to waste.

~Lindsey
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 01:23
Quote from: Dobby. on October 27, 2013, 01:53
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 01:49
Kinda off topic but see what i found
http://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?t=415195
Look how much people ask for the ip after seeing the map. CT has a HUGE potential and we must exploit this.

Saw that a while back :) my sig @ SAMP forums is CT i believe. We gotta get a trailer sorted for CT :D something we can actually share via FB,G+, YT Etc. I remember mick stating hes never advertised CT @ SA-MP forums so we can't do that (you gotta be server owner to do it)
With the collaboration of a few players I think I could do something good about the trailer thing. But before starting anything I need to be sure that things we say here will actually take effects. If things move, I'll do my best.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on October 27, 2013, 01:26
I got contacted by a guy from rockstar support group giving compliments for that forum topic> map, it did advertise CT in some sort of a way, thats why i think its important we use  these islands to its full potential. Sandus has almost no loads , and MC has  a very limited choice either.




Also, for now i have the opinion we do not need more islands/maps, as ( if the new removeobject code would work) could allow us to change default GTA SA buildings into a new scenery without adding dumb useless shit:D Just a new scenery. Imagine a whole new looking neighbourhood, i think that would be cool.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rahail on October 27, 2013, 01:37
Quote from: Konali on October 26, 2013, 17:51
Quote from: TheGame on October 26, 2013, 17:42
Just to clarify:
THIS server is DEAD, NOTING you can do about it anymore.
Dead=Dead..
For god sake, you can't do anything about it anymore ... noting will be added .. Please shut it down.
(http://i.imgur.com/2f1tZUQ.jpg)
This is the fking truth and trust me... the end is nearby..
(http://i.imgur.com/UCZE74O.gif)
Thanks for your time.


Go play Pilots life you idiot :D :3
There are still people here that care about CT, it doesnt matter if they have been inactive 125 days or 2 days, everyone that enjoyed CT just knows what they are talking about.


I think these suggestions would help the server in a simple way in the near future.

       
  • Improve convoy bonus. Stimulate that 40+ convoy feeling again.
  • (maybe) Car trading, just for the fun and give an extra dimension to carshows.
  • No more achievements PLEASE.
  • Complete the mission variarty to island like MC/sandus.
  • Allow staff to held regular events paid from server money.
  • (maybe) change the host location
  • Businesses ( for example, make every gas station ownable and set own prices ( with a min/max rate offcourse)
  • Allow us admins to do something about club bases being hogged, but we are limited if it comes to this. '' Yes we can audit them but thats all we can do actually'' I would suggest, if we find a club base to be breaking rules, lets increase the base price for a month as penalty and stimulation to get things organised again.
  • and more.
I would love to have all this but no business please. DONT ADD MORE ACHIEVEMENTS PLEASE
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Benny on October 27, 2013, 06:34
Sandius key has alot of expansons that are not fully done, i think we should finish them and add them as well.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: TheSandman on October 27, 2013, 06:48
Quote from: Benny on October 27, 2013, 06:34
Sandius key has alot of expansons that are not fully done, i think we should finish them and add them as well.
Go wild, since admins since can add/update maps now.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: sardarji on October 27, 2013, 06:59
The best thing for sandus would be adding more missions to there and connecting it to some place.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Tyler on October 27, 2013, 07:07
And spawn

btw many support 4 vinny's reasons
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: FatalFrame on October 27, 2013, 11:06
Quote from: Shake on October 27, 2013, 01:21
EVERY FUCKING SINGLE THING HERE WOULD BRING CT BACK TO 100/100 PLAYERS INSTANTLY

Believe me or not there is one simple reason why CT does not have 100/100 players anymore.It's the terrible host.Since CT is hosted in USA it hardly reaches even 50/100 players.It looks like americans dont really give a shit about CT but europeans would like to play it.However they dont play on CT because of the terrible lag,high ping etc This is the biggest problem in CT. It needs to be hosted in EU because CT was supposed to be an EU server so of course CT is not so famous in USA
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: FaZe1337Sajmon420PL on October 27, 2013, 11:18
Quote from: FatalFrame on October 27, 2013, 11:06
Quote from: Shake on October 27, 2013, 01:21
EVERY FUCKING SINGLE THING HERE WOULD BRING CT BACK TO 100/100 PLAYERS INSTANTLY

Believe me or not there is one simple reason why CT does not have 100/100 players anymore.It's the terrible host.Since CT is hosted in USA it hardly reaches even 50/100 players.It looks like americans dont really give a shit about CT but europeans would like to play it.However they dont play on CT because of the terrible lag,high ping etc This is the biggest problem in CT. It needs to be hosted in EU because CT was supposed to be an EU server so of course CT is not so famous in USA
When server was hosted by Volt Host in USA it wasn't as laggy. The only problem was the downtime because of DDOS attacks. So the location doesn't really matter. It's just Amazon Host that sucks.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 11:22
The very first host (I think it was France) was perfect. I don't remember what got fucked up and then we moved to the worst host of ct history which was in UK. The first USA host was not that bad, we had high ping but the server was playable.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on October 27, 2013, 11:45
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 00:40
I reviewed the whole "do not suggest" and did a list of what should be removed from it, and should be considered:

• spikes for cops that breaks suspect's tyres
Thats just an awesome idea if scripted correctly.

• Bank loans
Not everyone can rely on a friend to lend him money he needs instantly (to buy a house for example) so bank loans would be a great possibility if correctly scripted/moderated.

• New Gas stations/Areas
No comment lol ... If you can't suggest maps, how is the map supposed to be upgraded. Everyone should have his voice regarding maps.

• Anything about trading/selling
I (and probably a lot of people) think that trading, especially car trading would be one FUCKING AWESOME feature for ct

• tanker/airplane/tow truck convoys
I'm a part of these who enjoy Tanker convoys with friends, because it rocks. Now airplanes should also be doable in convoy, maybe not in real life but it would be cool in a game.

• ANY new type of mission
Same opinion like the mapping suggestions.

• Tanker missions for liquids other than petrol
Would be cool to have different load/unloads and different pay grades depending on the hauled materials.

• Vandalizing speedtraps
Thats interresting, imagine you can vandalize a speedtrap, you would get wanted, but the speedtrap would be disabled for like 5 mins OR another idea is cops have to repair the speedtraps and get paid for doing it (but thats just a few basic ideas of mine, could be more developped)

• boat missions
We do have land missions, air missions, why not sea missions ? Just imagine a Convoy of boats ... would be great

• packer missions
Got the idea to use packers to haul the wrecked cars towed with towtrucks and bring them to the waste dump. Or just use packers to deliver brand new cars to the car dealers and getting better pay regarding the cars delivered (if you bring infernus bullets etc to OTTO's auto you will get huge pay, bring "shitty cars" to coutt and shutz, get a lower pay etc ...)

• paying fines at a specific place and not to cops
I have rarely seen paying fines directly to the officers irl, its more about going to an office etc.

• being able to gamble in casinos/in general
That would be so cool, (if possible) imagine a few players sitting at the same table in a casino and playing Poker together, would be soooooo coool

• buying businesses to make extra money
This has already been discussed here and we know it would be fucking great
My chip beeped and said to me in robot voice 'Bruno, if this gets added, I will make you come back at CT'
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Shake on October 27, 2013, 12:27
My chip agrees with Bruno!
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 12:30
Most probably a lot of trolls here would change if such things were added.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on October 27, 2013, 13:39
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 12:30
Most probably a lot of trolls here would change if such things were added.
speak in ur name, hoho
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 13:49
Quote from: Bruno_2MLG4CT on October 27, 2013, 13:39
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 12:30
Most probably a lot of trolls here would change if such things were added.
speak in ur name, hoho
I don't fully consider myself a troll, but i admit my behavious is not the best lately.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on October 27, 2013, 13:50
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 13:49
Quote from: Bruno_2MLG4CT on October 27, 2013, 13:39
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 12:30
Most probably a lot of trolls here would change if such things were added.
speak in ur name, hoho
I don't fully consider myself a troll
How old are you?
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 13:51
Quote from: Bruno_2MLG4CT on October 27, 2013, 13:50
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 13:49
Quote from: Bruno_2MLG4CT on October 27, 2013, 13:39
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 12:30
Most probably a lot of trolls here would change if such things were added.
speak in ur name, hoho
I don't fully consider myself a troll
How old are you?
Am almost 17
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on October 27, 2013, 13:52
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 13:51
Quote from: Bruno_2MLG4CT on October 27, 2013, 13:50
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 13:49
Quote from: Bruno_2MLG4CT on October 27, 2013, 13:39
Quote from: Vinny on October 27, 2013, 12:30
Most probably a lot of trolls here would change if such things were added.
speak in ur name, hoho
I don't fully consider myself a troll
How old are you?
Am almost 17
So i am yungest.  :Sad_Okay:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 27, 2013, 14:28
Try to keep it on topic, i want mick to see we are serious about what we want, for the betterment of CVT.

It's nice to see that you'd all be willing to reform if these were added, it'd give meaning to what you do on CVT, building an empire isn't easy right now, it's just "do all achievements, insta rich, sell your house? instantly 50% loss" Why? I earned that money. Houses were at an all time high, really wanted, yet when you sold it, it was half value? Makes no sense in a housing market.

People should be able to build a market up from trading. imagine "vinnys car emporium" or "Konalis housing market"

Would be amazing to see it in CVT, trucking to get money to trade and possibly make money from those trades is awesome!
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: X_Raided on October 27, 2013, 15:26
all great ideas, if these were added i would definitely come back probably alot of people would..but ya know was funny7 pages of all these great ideas n people gettin hyped up but the owner of the server no where to be found ahahahahagagagagagag~~~~HAHAHAHAHAHAHA its like talkin to a non existent brick wall... cvt = x_x dead
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Wizzer on October 27, 2013, 15:31
Quote from: X_Raided on October 27, 2013, 15:26
all great ideas, if these were added i would definitely come back probably alot of people would..but ya know was funny7 pages of all these great ideas n people gettin hyped up but the owner of the server no where to be found ahahahahagagagagagag~~~~HAHAHAHAHAHAHA its like talkin to a non existent brick wall... cvt = x_x dead
I would come back too, but these thing will never be added  :-\
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Shake on October 27, 2013, 15:40
Quote from: X_Raided on October 27, 2013, 15:26
all great ideas, if these were added i would definitely come back probably alot of people would..but ya know was funny7 pages of all these great ideas n people gettin hyped up but the owner of the server no where to be found ahahahahagagagagagag~~~~HAHAHAHAHAHAHA its like talkin to a non existent brick wall... cvt = x_x dead
Gotta agree with Raided on this one.
It'll take YEARS before mick even replies here I bet. Seems like he doesn't care anymore, and that's one of the reasons why I left.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Benny on October 27, 2013, 16:59
Lets make it rumble!
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,43189.msg256174/boardseen.html#new
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Matias on October 28, 2013, 23:04
Dear Convoy Trucking Players:

In an awesome moment of inspiration and a big effort from part of the scripters and admins team, we had a discussion about why each one of the suggestions got rejected and added to the "Do not suggest list". We got to the point that some of the restrictions were not properly placed and they would be cool to add in future updates.

We decided to remove some of the restrictions from the "Do not Suggest list" and now people should be able to suggest it again. Now scripters will pay more attention to them and give a proper reason which accomplish people expectations. If it doesn't you will have a considerable time to explain why your suggestion should be approved before your suggestion gets locked.

Before suggesting it's highly recommended to check the "Locked & Closed Suggestions" to see if it was suggested before. If suggested, and your idea is way better and more complete than the old one, then you are welcome to suggest it again. We are willing to release atleast a group of updates per month.

Hope it helped, and sorry for the inconvenience caused, mick is way too busy with his work, ive been busy with exams and dobby was the only one working the last month (September / October).

Now, let the suggesting spam begin. Show us how creative you can be, everything is welcome.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on October 29, 2013, 21:13
Fantastic news!
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: P@tRyK248 on November 20, 2013, 19:24
That was Epic! :3
:like:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on November 20, 2013, 19:39
Quote from: P@tRyK248 on November 20, 2013, 19:24
That was Epic! :3
:like:

Such bump.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on December 03, 2013, 23:26
So, the future. :)


CT / SAMP has it hard to compete with mayor game releases, thats for sure,  but there is still a group of players that connects daily whether it is due to limited pc options or they really like the server. I think we should improve the server from time to time, not every week and we should try to see if we can find some epic things, that will seperate us from the other servers again.


I've made plenty of suggestions previously and i still stick by em. But not all are achievable:D I think a non laggy host is one of the most required things at the moment.
Also new rules, and more clearer rules, that seperates the playing member from the trolling nonserious playing members. In the end, we can better have a small good community, than a big mess. ( mick's words :P ).


Editt: i forgot my xmas tree and shizzle :snowmen: :cmastree:  :sclaus: :ccmas: :ccmas: :ccmas: :3 :like:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Terrorista310 on December 03, 2013, 23:59
kona just said the main points to get popular and back on their feet again


:happycmas:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Spekter on December 04, 2013, 00:19
Quote from: Terrorista310 on December 03, 2013, 23:59
kona just said the main points to get popular and back on their feet again


:happycmas:


Also, staff team could use a a good purge.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on December 04, 2013, 00:22
Quote from: Spectre on December 04, 2013, 00:19
Quote from: Terrorista310 on December 03, 2013, 23:59
kona just said the main points to get popular and back on their feet again


:happycmas:


Also, staff team could use a a good purge.


Examples? suggestions? We cant work on anything if comments are not constructive.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Spekter on December 04, 2013, 00:31
Quote from: Konali on December 04, 2013, 00:22
Quote from: Spectre on December 04, 2013, 00:19
Quote from: Terrorista310 on December 03, 2013, 23:59
kona just said the main points to get popular and back on their feet again


:happycmas:


Also, staff team could use a a good purge.


Examples? suggestions? We cant work on anything if comments are not constructive.


Demote inactive staff members (a good portion of the whole staff team) and promote active players that actually want to help, reduce the arrogance of certain staff members, clearly define what are moderators allowed to do both in-game and on forum ("guidelines" should be changed to clearly defined instructions, since moderators-dictators are using them to justify their wrong actions). That's it for now.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Blitz_FR on December 04, 2013, 09:59
Quote from: Spectre on December 04, 2013, 00:31
Quote from: Konali on December 04, 2013, 00:22
Quote from: Spectre on December 04, 2013, 00:19
Quote from: Terrorista310 on December 03, 2013, 23:59
kona just said the main points to get popular and back on their feet again


:happycmas:


Also, staff team could use a a good purge.


Examples? suggestions? We cant work on anything if comments are not constructive.


Demote inactive staff members (a good portion of the whole staff team) and promote active players that actually want to help, reduce the arrogance of certain staff members, clearly define what are moderators allowed to do both in-game and on forum ("guidelines" should be changed to clearly defined instructions, since moderators-dictators are using them to justify their wrong actions). That's it for now.

Nothing to add.  :like:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: DeHavilland on December 04, 2013, 14:06
Quote from: Blitz_FR on December 04, 2013, 09:59
Quote from: Spectre on December 04, 2013, 00:31
Quote from: Konali on December 04, 2013, 00:22
Quote from: Spectre on December 04, 2013, 00:19
Quote from: Terrorista310 on December 03, 2013, 23:59
kona just said the main points to get popular and back on their feet again


:happycmas:


Also, staff team could use a a good purge.


Examples? suggestions? We cant work on anything if comments are not constructive.


Demote inactive staff members (a good portion of the whole staff team) and promote active players that actually want to help, reduce the arrogance of certain staff members, clearly define what are moderators allowed to do both in-game and on forum ("guidelines" should be changed to clearly defined instructions, since moderators-dictators are using them to justify their wrong actions). That's it for now.

Nothing to add.  :like:
Agree  :like:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: TheGame on December 04, 2013, 14:41
Step 1. Get a non-laggy host
Step 2. Demote inactive staff members, promote active players
Step 3. Bring trading back
Step 4. Everyone happy.
:ccmas:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Sjomp on December 04, 2013, 14:48
I agree with spectre, Staff should have more strict rules to follow.

And people should be able to give us staff feedback where we could work on and not only compliments. (compliments are useless since you don't learn anything from it, it only gives a good feeling)
I would like to know where I could work on as mod :)
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 04, 2013, 14:51
Quote from: Sjomp on December 04, 2013, 14:48
I agree with spectre, Staff should have more strict rules to follow.

And people should be able to give us staff feedback where we could work on and not only compliments. (compliments are useless since you don't learn anything from it, it only gives a good feeling)
I would like to know where I could work on as mod :)
Nothing, u are best mod so far.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on December 04, 2013, 15:36
Please keep the posts constructive:)


Just an  :like:  or  :dislike:  is not constructive:D


Also there are more points of discussion than just staff:D
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: GeneralLee on December 04, 2013, 16:13
Nothing is the same!

CVT is not about trucking anymore..Or since because trucking is not funny anymore on server or trucking is boring for me..but is not!(I love trucking). I still hate the last 4 achievements..

I miss old players : ex. $nake with his big convoys.. Rubber, Vado, Bounce , minu_csn .. Etc.

I want trucking back to CVT!
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Wizzer on December 04, 2013, 16:15
Quote from: Agresiv on December 04, 2013, 16:13
Nothing is the same!

CVT is not about trucking anymore..Or since because trucking is not funny anymore on server or trucking is boring for me..but is not!(I love trucking). I still hate the last 4 achievements..

I miss old players : ex. $nake with his big convoys.. Rubber, Vado, Bounce , minu_csn .. Etc.

I want trucking back to CVT!
^ +200 :like: :like:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Spekter on December 04, 2013, 17:42
Quote from: Sjomp on December 04, 2013, 14:48
I agree with spectre, Staff should have more strict rules to follow.

And people should be able to give us staff feedback where we could work on and not only compliments. (compliments are useless since you don't learn anything from it, it only gives a good feeling)
I would like to know where I could work on as mod :)


You know what you could work on? Not changing even a bit :)
You are the one of the few moderators left that can be staff role models without a single problem.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: RaceRX on December 04, 2013, 20:44
I think we need more spread apart staff and friendlier staff. Example, DOBBY<3 and Spazz even. but when i play, the only person who slips into my timezone is well, noone. whenever i run into any of the staff is when i break out of my usual timeslot of playing lol

caugh racer for admin
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Boy on December 04, 2013, 21:52
1. Demote all current inactive admins.
2. Give all players who are active over 1 year the commands /summoncar and limit it to a range of 50 meter,
so we can help out the new players in our convoys. When they get stuck.

3. problem solved  O0 :like:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: SpazzBucket. on December 04, 2013, 22:01
Quote from: RaceRX96 on December 04, 2013, 20:44
I think we need more spread apart staff and friendlier staff. Example, DOBBY<3 and Spazz even. but when i play, the only person who slips into my timezone is well, noone. whenever i run into any of the staff is when i break out of my usual timeslot of playing lol

caugh racer for admin
That's exactly how it was for me before and a lot of the time now xD I can't stay up late anymore either so there's still a period of time where there's no admins online
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on December 05, 2013, 00:01
About more staff, we have nominated a few, but only 50% of them have yet been promoted. About inactive ones, well you can always make an admin contact topic to let us know what and how.


I can speak only for myself, and i know i cant be IG active that much. I will be able again later,, but not right now since these last weeks are very busy with work etc and i sleep irregularly  because of that:D
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Shake on December 05, 2013, 12:49
Actually, the only main issue right now is staff. That's my opinion, it may differ from other players.


I've started playing again a bit when I have free time, and let me tell you: either there are only a few mods (or none at all, most of the times I only see Dobby and Supreme in my timezone), or the mods online are just awful.


There are some mods who are terrible at what they need to do (no offence, but, as I mentioned previously, this is just my honest opinion about what's going on), and they shouldn't really be mods.


As I said many times before, and already talked about Dobby with this, you should think a lot of times about whom you'll chose for mod, since that's not a position that's easy as fuck to be/do as many people think.


You should only pick people who are HELPFUL, ACTIVE and FRIENDLY. And I don't mean people who tryhard as fuck to get mod position. No, I'm talking about people who do it without even realizing it. Good people, you know? People who like/want to help others when they can, without asking anything in return.




Again, this is only my opinion about staff, nothing personal.


Sorry for the long text lazy asses :P
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: DeHavilland on December 05, 2013, 17:58
Quote from: Shake on December 05, 2013, 12:49
Actually, the only main issue right now is staff. That's my opinion, it may differ from other players.


I've started playing again a bit when I have free time, and let me tell you: either there are only a few mods (or none at all, most of the times I only see Dobby and Supreme in my timezone), or the mods online are just awful.


There are some mods who are terrible at what they need to do (no offence, but, as I mentioned previously, this is just my honest opinion about what's going on), and they shouldn't really be mods.


As I said many times before, and already talked about Dobby with this, you should think a lot of times about whom you'll chose for mod, since that's not a position that's easy as fuck to be/do as many people think.


You should only pick people who are HELPFUL, ACTIVE and FRIENDLY. And I don't mean people who tryhard as fuck to get mod position. No, I'm talking about people who do it without even realizing it. Good people, you know? People who like/want to help others when they can, without asking anything in return.




Again, this is only my opinion about staff, nothing personal.


Sorry for the long text lazy asses :P
I agree and you get a cookie! :)  :like:  :ccmas:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Sjomp on December 19, 2013, 00:15
Will there be anything done with this topic? or doesn't it matter what is said here? :winkcmas:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on December 19, 2013, 00:21
Quote from: Sjomp on December 19, 2013, 00:15
Will there be anything done with this topic? or doesn't it matter what is said here? :winkcmas:

Personally i think its dead. The topic creator has gone inactive. I unlocked it, its gone dead again. Just wait a while it'll be bumped no doubt
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Shake on December 19, 2013, 00:36
Quote from: Dobby. on December 19, 2013, 00:21
Quote from: Sjomp on December 19, 2013, 00:15
Will there be anything done with this topic? or doesn't it matter what is said here? :winkcmas:

Personally i think its dead. The topic creator has gone inactive. I unlocked it, its gone dead again. Just wait a while it'll be bumped no doubt
It's sort of dead. Nothing more will be said after what we all said already. We'd just be repeating ourselves.
We just need some kind of "answers" now.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on December 19, 2013, 00:46
Quote from: Sjomp on December 19, 2013, 00:15
Will there be anything done with this topic? or doesn't it matter what is said here?
(http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/file:///C:/Users/johan/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif)

Everything that was said based on proof or constructive arguments, we will do something with, so yes.
But we cannot do anything with stuff that is not up to us or within our powers to do so. For an example, the server host/lag, we cannot fix this.

Or the staff team, we cannot get a fully working staff team within 1 day of promoting new members. It takes time to promote and train them, and explain what is wrong or good which hopefully they will take on as advice and get better and better.

We can and we should update the rules, but who am i, or who is sandman to say what is an ok rule or not. It takes time to get to a very good set of rules. Perhaps, the future could be, that the community steps up and works out the old rules and new ones and pitch them to other community members and staff from there we can push trough the rules that seem needed and delete or edit rules that are old fashioned.


We could make our guidelines and punishments thing publicly, but that would also mean automatically that there will be more loopholes and confused situations than we really need. In the end, staff can and should keep each other sharp, and where mistakes are made, we have experienced admins that know what is the right thing to do. And we can always go back to the guidelines which every old and current admin agreed on, and has every right to discuss new things for more improvement.

I myself, like to upgrade the server with some maps. But i cannot add anything i like, the community has to like it too, as does the entire mapping team.

The scripter's team is working weekly on small and bigger updates. And something that applies to almost everything seen above, Just because something isn't visible in plain sight, doesn't mean its not there.

We have 5 mayor private discussion areas, and 1 big public suggestion area. So as long there is a discussion going on, and suggestions will be made, there is definitely something that does matter, and that there will something be done with your ( i repeat) constructive feedback.
This does not apply to just one topic if you have read my story :) All small parts, make a bigger thing:)

Konali

Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: TheGame on December 19, 2013, 07:02
Quote from: Konali on December 19, 2013, 00:46
Quote from: Sjomp on December 19, 2013, 00:15
Will there be anything done with this topic? or doesn't it matter what is said here?
(http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/file:///C:/Users/johan/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif)
We have 5 mayor private discussion areas, and 1 big public suggestion area. So as long there is a discussion going on, and suggestions will be made, there is definitely something that does matter, and that there will something be done with your ( i repeat) constructive feedback.
This does not apply to just one topic if you have read my story :) All small parts, make a bigger thing:)

Konali

Does this include car trading?  :D
And.. I explained many times how you can solve this ''scam/abuse'' problem so.  :)
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: FatalFrame on December 20, 2013, 17:14
Quote from: TheGame on December 04, 2013, 14:41
Step 1. Get a non-laggy host
Step 2. Demote inactive staff members, promote active players

Step 1: It's the most important thing in CVT but it looks like it's impossible since Mick does not change this crappy host

Step 2: Sure good idea,but Mick should demote the abusive staff members too who dont understand the jokes and cant have fun with other players.If some staff members have personal problems then they should not come to CVT at all because they punish people wrongly a lot of times just because they have bad mood or this means hapiness for them

If at least the 1st step happened then CVT would have 100/100 players again.But currently CVT is messed up and dying.I think it has something to do with the host changing
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: SpazzBucket. on December 20, 2013, 18:05
Quote from: FatalFrame on December 20, 2013, 17:14
Quote from: TheGame on December 04, 2013, 14:41
Step 1. Get a non-laggy host
Step 2. Demote inactive staff members, promote active players

Step 1: It's the most important thing in CVT but it looks like it's impossible since Mick does not change this crappy host

Step 2: Sure good idea,but Mick should demote the abusive staff members too who dont understand the jokes and cant have fun with other players.If some staff members have personal problems then they should not come to CVT at all because they punish people wrongly a lot of times just because they have bad mood or this means hapiness for them

If at least the 1st step happened then CVT would have 100/100 players again.But currently CVT is messed up and dying.I think it has something to do with the host changing
I don't think you have the right idea here. Yes the host is an issue, but we can't do anything about it, that has been said many many times. And you say staff make bad decisions, there is a place to report that if you didn't know, of you think there is abusing then report it, even if it's locked other admins/mods do still see it and can change the outcome if they see fit. So as many others have said, don't accuse without proof, accusations will do nothing for you.

And you aren't in any position to talk because you haven't been online for 128 days, so please get some proof first.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: FatalFrame on December 20, 2013, 18:40
Quote from: SpazzBucket. on December 20, 2013, 18:05
I don't think you have the right idea here. Yes the host is an issue, but we can't do anything about it, that has been said many many times. And you say staff make bad decisions, there is a place to report that if you didn't know, of you think there is abusing then report it, even if it's locked other admins/mods do still see it and can change the outcome if they see fit. So as many others have said, don't accuse without proof, accusations will do nothing for you.

And you aren't in any position to talk because you haven't been online for 128 days, so please get some proof first.

Nobody said that you must do anything about it hence why i said Mick should change the host.Big problems must be repeated over and over again because if nothing changes then CVT will die soon

Stop acting like im a retard.I know we can report staff members but in this case nothing happens because admins always find out bullshit excuses.Shortly staff members can do anything against regular players,they only get demoted if they cheat.Most of the staff members have their own dictator rules which they find/found out just to punish players even though they dont break the server rules

Well yes i have not been online for 128 days so what?I used to play a lot of times here with my different account,so i know what happened in the server,but we also can see unfair and pathetic things in the forum too

Im happy that not im the only one who see this but other players and some ex staff members too

But the fact is nobody likes to hear the truth

Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: SpazzBucket. on December 20, 2013, 19:36
There you go again, accusing of bullshit excuses without the proof, see what I mean? Now lets not get into a big flamewar over this as this is not what this or any thread is used for or created for
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Shake on December 20, 2013, 19:36
Quote from: FatalFrame on December 20, 2013, 18:40
But the fact is nobody likes to hear the truth
Wise words, my friend.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: FatalFrame on December 20, 2013, 20:40
Quote from: SpazzBucket. on December 20, 2013, 19:36
There you go again, accusing of bullshit excuses without the proof, see what I mean? Now lets not get into a big flamewar over this as this is not what this or any thread is used for or created for

Every player with a clean mind see bunch of proofs not only ingame but in forum too.If someone does not notice those proofs then he is blind or just simply an asskisser who does not want to admit the truth because then he will be hated by most of the players and screwed by the staff team

I dont want any flamewars.You know who cause flamewars?The trolls who should be banned from this server forever however they are allowed to play by the admins for some reasons...

Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Dobby on December 20, 2013, 21:22
Quote from: FatalFrame on December 20, 2013, 18:40
Nobody said that you must do anything about it hence why i said Mick should change the host.Big problems must be repeated over and over again because if nothing changes then CVT will die soon
CVT? Its "CT"
Stop acting like im a retard.I know we can report staff members but in this case nothing happens because admins always find out bullshit excuses.Shortly staff members can do anything against regular players,they only get demoted if they cheat.Most of the staff members have their own dictator rules which they find/found out just to punish players even though they dont break the server rules

So get good decent proof and it'll be looked at. No we follow guidelines

Well yes i have not been online for 128 days so what?I used to play a lot of times here with my different account,so i know what happened in the server,but we also can see unfair and pathetic things in the forum too
So report the rule breakers
Im happy that not im the only one who see this but other players and some ex staff members too
Everyone else is fine but the trolls
But the fact is nobody likes to hear the truth
I fail to see whats truthful about it. Its just you calling us all dictators. We enforce the rules by getting rid of rule breakers. REGARDLESS of staff position.

My responses are in bold.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rubber on December 20, 2013, 22:20
Quote from: Dobby. on December 20, 2013, 21:22
Quote from: FatalFrame on December 20, 2013, 18:40
Nobody said that you must do anything about it hence why i said Mick should change the host.Big problems must be repeated over and over again because if nothing changes then CVT will die soon
CVT? Its "CT"

But the fact is nobody likes to hear the truth
I fail to see whats truthful about it. Its just you calling us all dictators. We enforce the rules by getting rid of rule breakers. REGARDLESS of staff position.

My responses are in bold.

Dobby, he comes from an era of CT when we used to call it CVT...way back in the day. He's an old player like me. I still call it CVT usually too. It's an old habit i suppose.

About abusive staff: it does seem like during the past year or so, the staff has become more "free" with their commands. I have caught staff members teleporting around, spawning vehicles, etc. just for fun. Of course there is no way to get proof of this just because POOF...they are there. There is simply no time to hit record. I remember back in the day when staff members only used their commands for their DUTY. When I was a moderator, I was told commands were only to be used for helping people or doing moderator duties. Looking back, I am kind of pleased with my performance...I never used commands for fun that I can remember (unless it involved having fun with hackers haha...Joshy and I would have fun with them). I am not trying to accuse any single staff member, I am only trying to point out that a rule like this should be firmly instated: use commands only for moderator duties, otherwise you will be demoted. It kind of pisses me off when a moderator just teleports to me for no reason, jumps out of my car, then spawns an admin vehicle and drives off. When they teleport to you, it sometimes stops your car, causing problems.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Spekter on December 20, 2013, 22:51
Quote from: Rubber on December 20, 2013, 22:20
Quote from: Dobby. on December 20, 2013, 21:22
Quote from: FatalFrame on December 20, 2013, 18:40
Nobody said that you must do anything about it hence why i said Mick should change the host.Big problems must be repeated over and over again because if nothing changes then CVT will die soon
CVT? Its "CT"

But the fact is nobody likes to hear the truth
I fail to see whats truthful about it. Its just you calling us all dictators. We enforce the rules by getting rid of rule breakers. REGARDLESS of staff position.

My responses are in bold.

Dobby, he comes from an era of CT when we used to call it CVT...way back in the day. He's an old player like me. I still call it CVT usually too. It's an old habit i suppose.

About abusive staff: it does seem like during the past year or so, the staff has become more "free" with their commands. I have caught staff members teleporting around, spawning vehicles, etc. just for fun. Of course there is no way to get proof of this just because POOF...they are there. There is simply no time to hit record. I remember back in the day when staff members only used their commands for their DUTY. When I was a moderator, I was told commands were only to be used for helping people or doing moderator duties. Looking back, I am kind of pleased with my performance...I never used commands for fun that I can remember (unless it involved having fun with hackers haha...Joshy and I would have fun with them). I am not trying to accuse any single staff member, I am only trying to point out that a rule like this should be firmly instated: use commands only for moderator duties, otherwise you will be demoted. It kind of pisses me off when a moderator just teleports to me for no reason, jumps out of my car, then spawns an admin vehicle and drives off. When they teleport to you, it sometimes stops your car, causing problems.


Rubber, there is a reason dobi gets all defensive like that when it comes to talking about moderators
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on December 21, 2013, 00:22
It was never CVT , idk where that came from, $nake perhaps :)


@ fatalframe
Yes you can report staff, and if you raport is valid something can/will be done.


Kenworth was temp demoted not for cheats
RaceRX96 was warned not for cheats
Lindsey was warned also not for cheats
more recently,
Brane was temp demoted for bad staff behaviour
Dobby was verbally warned after wrongfully placed comments.


So please dont gimme the bullshit nothing will be done. Its the way you want to see it, it is far from that.


Also, i think staff has had enough attention in this topic, and i dont see any constructive posts anymore. So hereby the staff subject was discussed properly and long enough. Staff is here voluntary and they do not deserve all these accusations based on wrong intel or without proof.
*********************************************************
you can still discuss other subjects in this topic, but the staff team had the chance to reply here, and so did the community to.


Now i dont think, people that say the host cannot be changed know what is going on.
Yes mick is very busy with other things, but once the current host runs out of funds, or gets closed down and mick has some free time. Who knows. But it is important to know that it would make no sense to throw alot of funds away right now.


As stated above, if you have good suggestions, suggest them. I still agree with lindsey that to many suggestions still get locked based on a simple statement in thedo nto suggest list. Sometimes the topic gets locked after 20 minutes. Even if the suggested thing is on the list, discussions will lead to new ideas. so please for the love of god. Stop locking everything so fast. For an example, i was really interested in the harry park goldway thinghy, i even tried some mapping options and when i wanted to post my results, it was locked. so yea you cant suggest mappings, but if its found usefulle and needed, dont lock it based on some stupid sentence in the do not post list.


As you might have noticed it annoys me :D hahaha. I could offcourse re open it, but untill i have my project in beta phase ready i dont know what could be added, but none the less it  is a very usefull and good suggestion and wouldnt have been locked in the first place.



Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Sjomp on December 21, 2013, 00:26
Is it only me of the staff team that sees we aren't doing a good job?

All we do is attacking people with the rules we have, but shouldn't we just protect them with the rules?
I mean don't create problems where they aren't. (it's still a game and games are meant to have fun and I don't take it too serious)

And well for the normal players it looks like we are abusing, so there is something wrong.
And about everybody that talks about hidden rules I think they mean things like:
if you advertise a club in mainchat it's warn directly.
if you advertise another server in mainchat it's ban.
(well it's not this part I know but this is just an example of the few things.)

And what I want to say to the players:
Sometimes it looks like we are abusing yeah, but believe me every staff member follows the guidelines that we have.


@Rubber
I am one of the mods that use his commands to have fun sometimes, but I almost never do it near other players.
And when I do it near other player then they are with me and having fun too :P (It's most times something like just racing arround somewhere in an other interior. And I always check if they have fines before I tp them to another place.)
But what you said about tping to you and then jump out of your truck and go away with admin vehicle, that should never happen.


@konali sorry I was already typing this message while you posted and I still want to post it :P (else I typed like 10 minutes for nothing)
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Shake on December 21, 2013, 00:28
Quote from: Sjomp on December 21, 2013, 00:26
Is it only me of the staff team that sees we aren't doing a good job?

All we do is attacking people with the rules we have, but shouldn't we just protect them with the rules?
I mean don't create problems where they aren't. (it's still a game and games are meant to have fun and I don't take it too serious)

And well for the normal players it looks like we are abusing, so there is something wrong.
And about everybody that talks about hidden rules I think they mean things like:
if you advertise a club in mainchat it's warn directly.
if you advertise another server in mainchat it's ban.
(well it's not this part I know but this is just an example of the few things.)

And what I want to say to the players:
Sometimes it looks like we are abusing yeah, but believe me every staff member follows the guidelines that we have.


@Rubber
I am one of the mods that use his commands to have fun sometimes, but I almost never do it near other players.
And when I do it near other player then they are with me and having fun too :P (It's most times something like just racing arround somewhere in an other interior. And I always check if they have fines before I tp them to another place.)
But what you said about tping to you and then jump out of your truck and go away with admin vehicle, that should never happen.


@konali sorry I was already typing this message while you posted and I still want to post it :P (else I typed like 10 minutes for nothing)
This is why, even though I never spoke to you or got to know you, I know you're one of the best (if not, THE best) mod at the moment.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Hobo on December 21, 2013, 00:33
The real problem with CT is that the shoebox is gone.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on December 21, 2013, 00:38
Quote from: Hobo on December 21, 2013, 00:33
The real problem with CT is that the shoebox is gone.


I guess it will be back soon, i admit i was one of the persons that also caused it to be disabled. I openly discussed OP's case there when he just didnt understand :D



Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Rubber on December 21, 2013, 00:43
Quote from: Konali on December 21, 2013, 00:22
It was never CVT , idk where that came from, $nake perhaps :)


@ fatalframe
Yes you can report staff, and if you raport is valid something can/will be done.


Kenworth was temp demoted not for cheats
RaceRX96 was warned not for cheats
Lindsey was warned also not for cheats
more recently,
Brane was temp demoted for bad staff behaviour
Dobby was verbally warned after wrongfully placed comments.


So please dont gimme the bullshit nothing will be done. Its the way you want to see it, it is far from that.


Also, i think staff has had enough attention in this topic, and i dont see any constructive posts anymore. So hereby the staff subject was discussed properly and long enough. Staff is here voluntary and they do not deserve all these accusations based on wrong intel or without proof.
*********************************************************
you can still discuss other subjects in this topic, but the staff team had the chance to reply here, and so did the community to.


Now i dont think, people that say the host cannot be changed know what is going on.
Yes mick is very busy with other things, but once the current host runs out of funds, or gets closed down and mick has some free time. Who knows. But it is important to know that it would make no sense to throw alot of funds away right now.


As stated above, if you have good suggestions, suggest them. I still agree with lindsey that to many suggestions still get locked based on a simple statement in thedo nto suggest list. Sometimes the topic gets locked after 20 minutes. Even if the suggested thing is on the list, discussions will lead to new ideas. so please for the love of god. Stop locking everything so fast. For an example, i was really interested in the harry park goldway thinghy, i even tried some mapping options and when i wanted to post my results, it was locked. so yea you cant suggest mappings, but if its found usefulle and needed, dont lock it based on some stupid sentence in the do not post list.


As you might have noticed it annoys me :D hahaha. I could offcourse re open it, but untill i have my project in beta phase ready i dont know what could be added, but none the less it  is a very usefull and good suggestion and wouldnt have been locked in the first place.

I understand where you come from completely with your reply Konali, and I didn't know about a lot of those staff warnings....that's the problem. To be honest, shouldn't the community know these things? I feel like there are a lot of things that go un-noticed by the community and maybe some confusion would be lifted if they were let in on the happenings. Maybe I haven't been following the forum close enough, but I had no idea half of those on the list were reprimanded...even when I was a moderator. Sorry for keeping it on staff topic, but I just feel like things have to be said.

It terms of the topic locking, I do agree with you completely Konali. It seems topics get locked for really dumb reasons. So what if a topic goes a little off-topic...who really gives a damn? I can understand if it is exploding into a flame war or a country vs. country war, but if someone just posted something funny? I mean come on...have a sense of humor and don't be so butthurt about it. I personally like when some topics go a little off-topic...they can lead to some pretty funny things.

Anyway, those are my 2 cents that may or may not get me warned, but I don't really care. I think staff has a big influence on the community, whether they notice it or not. I am here for the community, not so much the game, and figured I would state my opinions.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Konali on December 21, 2013, 01:46
Quote from: Rubber on December 21, 2013, 00:43
Quote from: Konali on December 21, 2013, 00:22
It was never CVT , idk where that came from, $nake perhaps :)


@ fatalframe
Yes you can report staff, and if you raport is valid something can/will be done.


Kenworth was temp demoted not for cheats
RaceRX96 was warned not for cheats
Lindsey was warned also not for cheats
more recently,
Brane was temp demoted for bad staff behaviour
Dobby was verbally warned after wrongfully placed comments.


So please dont gimme the bullshit nothing will be done. Its the way you want to see it, it is far from that.


Also, i think staff has had enough attention in this topic, and i dont see any constructive posts anymore. So hereby the staff subject was discussed properly and long enough. Staff is here voluntary and they do not deserve all these accusations based on wrong intel or without proof.
*********************************************************
you can still discuss other subjects in this topic, but the staff team had the chance to reply here, and so did the community to.


Now i dont think, people that say the host cannot be changed know what is going on.
Yes mick is very busy with other things, but once the current host runs out of funds, or gets closed down and mick has some free time. Who knows. But it is important to know that it would make no sense to throw alot of funds away right now.


As stated above, if you have good suggestions, suggest them. I still agree with lindsey that to many suggestions still get locked based on a simple statement in thedo nto suggest list. Sometimes the topic gets locked after 20 minutes. Even if the suggested thing is on the list, discussions will lead to new ideas. so please for the love of god. Stop locking everything so fast. For an example, i was really interested in the harry park goldway thinghy, i even tried some mapping options and when i wanted to post my results, it was locked. so yea you cant suggest mappings, but if its found usefulle and needed, dont lock it based on some stupid sentence in the do not post list.


As you might have noticed it annoys me :D hahaha. I could offcourse re open it, but untill i have my project in beta phase ready i dont know what could be added, but none the less it  is a very usefull and good suggestion and wouldnt have been locked in the first place.

I understand where you come from completely with your reply Konali, and I didn't know about a lot of those staff warnings....that's the problem. To be honest, shouldn't the community know these things? I feel like there are a lot of things that go un-noticed by the community and maybe some confusion would be lifted if they were let in on the happenings. Maybe I haven't been following the forum close enough, but I had no idea half of those on the list were reprimanded...even when I was a moderator. Sorry for keeping it on staff topic, but I just feel like things have to be said.

It terms of the topic locking, I do agree with you completely Konali. It seems topics get locked for really dumb reasons. So what if a topic goes a little off-topic...who really gives a damn? I can understand if it is exploding into a flame war or a country vs. country war, but if someone just posted something funny? I mean come on...have a sense of humor and don't be so butthurt about it. I personally like when some topics go a little off-topic...they can lead to some pretty funny things.

Anyway, those are my 2 cents that may or may not get me warned, but I don't really care. I think staff has a big influence on the community, whether they notice it or not. I am here for the community, not so much the game, and figured I would state my opinions.


Your reply was constructive and helpfull, then its perfectly ok man:P
It just bothers me, that for over an month now, staff uses one guideline topic to fallback on, one set of rules, and these inactive players dont know that, because well as i said, they are inactive:D. People need something to put the blaim on, and yes we make mistakes, but we also fix them. You dont see us staff, making topic like, HA he got warned again. We dont do that. And there are community members that do put the blaim on the staff team, where they have done mostly the same stuff ingame like other old / demoted staff members did. It is like you said it, there are many things not public. Not because we want to, but there are many things that cant be made public.


recently we had the discussion whether to publish the guidelines set for staff or not. But doing so would automaticly mean, there will be more loopholes and complaints that we have right now, is that worth it for those that do this on a voluntary basis, i dont think so.


All staff reprimandes above are kept secret/ hidden simply because we feel its up to the staff member himself to explain what he has done wrong. If he can explain what he has done wrong himself, he will not do it again. If we make an anouncement topic to cover up for the mistakes he or she made, he doesnt really learn much from it because he or she is not the one that has to come out and explain things:).


Another example, for the past 5 months we had multiple staff members with really hardcore illnesses and or family issues. I dont think that we are the right persons to inform the community. the person can choose himself to do so.


So idk, maybe we should put things public , but alot of things would really have to come from the person himself i feel. But thats my opinion:)


Thanks for your feedback rubber, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: TheGame on December 21, 2013, 07:28
Can we also talk about other stuff then staff members?  ::)
If so, well .. I'd love to get car trading back and I explained many times how to solve the ''scam/abuse'' problem.
Well, I do it one more time:
If someone wants to sell his vehicle he can put it on sale with a command like /forsale. He can ask 25 percent more than dealership price and can sell it for 50 percent less than the dealership price. Also if he doesn't like that, he can /sellcar the vehicle for the price which is given. This is a way to stop the ''scam/abuse'' problem and trust me this works even better than a using a banana slice to let someone fall over it.  :)
Don't say this is not a suggestion board because Dobby also made a topic about a fuel suggestion in general talk so why this shouldn't be allowed.
Thanks and I hope NOW finally someone replies to it with a constructive feedback.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Boy on December 21, 2013, 11:17
Merry X-mas guys!!
see ya in 2014 best wishes :D  :winkcmas:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: DeHavilland on December 21, 2013, 11:41
I will just thank you all for the new update! I really enjoyed reading that Helicopter missions are now re-made and more thief unloads! Awesome work guys. Also is it only me or has the forum a background? :D
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Hobo on December 22, 2013, 22:48
Quote from: Konali on December 21, 2013, 00:38
Quote from: Hobo on December 21, 2013, 00:33
The real problem with CT is that the shoebox is gone.
I guess it will be back soon, i admit i was one of the persons that also caused it to be disabled. I openly discussed OP's case there when he just didnt understand :D
Day 3: Shoutbox is still kidnapped by the red men. :dislike:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: $nake on December 22, 2013, 23:16
That girl has a point of view for future, but still more and more Convoyers become the trollers. Maybe get an example: where are the convoys in the full meaning of word? Even if I'm not playing so often (rather almost never) and I came to see what's new on xmas, all I see is "some" people trolling around (still probly didn't see many of them) and convoys "full" of truckers (like 1-2-3 max), I saw my dump-convoy was the biggest for next 2 hours. I'm suprised that CONVOY Trucking becomes Freeroy Trolling, and these who were great players before became weirdly trollers in unexpected way. I hope that people won't see the Easy Cash on the others and waiting for new occassion to make someone trouble by provoking. I know, Lindsey hates the comparing the New Convoy Trucking to this 2010/11 Old one's, But take a look, we can hide and stay gray players or do something with that, maybe bring more professional fun, not the trolling of kids who associate Internet by "idiotic jokes" or more idiotic memes.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Hobo on December 22, 2013, 23:29
Quote from: $nake on December 22, 2013, 23:16
#Hoboforasslicker2013
plz. Show me where I licked ass.

You're just mad that I reminded people in-game about who you really are.
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,36206.msg203646.html#msg203646
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: $nake on December 22, 2013, 23:39
Quote from: Hobo on December 22, 2013, 23:29
Quote from: $nake on December 22, 2013, 23:16
#Hoboforasslicker2013
plz. Show me where I licked ass.

You're just mad that I reminded people in-game about who you really are.
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,36206.msg203646.html#msg203646
1. I'm not here to show you anything, just don't be an asshole and don't pretend being innocent.
2. Who you are to remind people in-game what isn't about you, it was between me and Konali.
3. I know what do you want to do, maybe show others how the real Hobo acts, be always same.
4. It's not a place for arguing, starting any word-fight isn't needed, I just won't reply on your fakes anymore.
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Hobo on December 22, 2013, 23:43
Quote from: $nake on December 22, 2013, 23:39
Quote from: Hobo on December 22, 2013, 23:29
Quote from: $nake on December 22, 2013, 23:16
#Hoboforasslicker2013
plz. Show me where I licked ass.
You're just mad that I reminded people in-game about who you really are.
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,36206.msg203646.html#msg203646
1. I'm not here to show you anything, just don't be an asshole and don't pretend being innocent.
2. Who you are to remind people in-game what isn't about you, it was between me and Konali.
3. I know what do you want to do, maybe show others how the real Hobo acts, be always same.
4. It's not a place for arguing, starting any word-fight isn't needed, I just won't reply on your fakes anymore.
1. plz no insult my
2. It was a public incident and you made it that way
3. I don't want to be staff, that's why I resigned? I don't even play that much now.
4. Then don't start a fight?

#Hobo4asslicker2k15

GGWP
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Corvette on December 23, 2013, 03:34
Jesus guys, Can anyone go 1 day without provoking someone else? I mean, I don't get ingame everyday but I check the forums, And almost every day it's the same bullshit "He Insulted me" "He Provoked me to do it" Blah blah fucking blah. If CT is gonna last any longer we need to quit pointing the fucking finger, Quit making up shit about staff just to get them demoted or fired or get them pissed off, And Quit provoking EVERYONE! /endrant
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: TheGame on December 23, 2013, 07:10
Comon people, it's a game.. Just play it. Also, it is almost christmas so forgive each other for what you have done.  ;) The feeling of christmas!  :happycmas:
Title: Re: Convoy Trucking, the future, you.
Post by: Lindsey on December 23, 2013, 23:45
Quote from: $nake on December 22, 2013, 23:16
That girl has a point of view for future, but still more and more Convoyers become the trollers. Maybe get an example: where are the convoys in the full meaning of word? Even if I'm not playing so often (rather almost never) and I came to see what's new on xmas, all I see is "some" people trolling around (still probly didn't see many of them) and convoys "full" of truckers (like 1-2-3 max), I saw my dump-convoy was the biggest for next 2 hours. I'm suprised that CONVOY Trucking becomes Freeroy Trolling, and these who were great players before became weirdly trollers in unexpected way. I hope that people won't see the Easy Cash on the others and waiting for new occassion to make someone trouble by provoking. I know, Lindsey hates the comparing the New Convoy Trucking to this 2010/11 Old one's, But take a look, we can hide and stay gray players or do something with that, maybe bring more professional fun, not the trolling of kids who associate Internet by "idiotic jokes" or more idiotic memes.

Quote from: Ethan on October 26, 2013, 04:18
#Lindseyforowner2014
#Lindseyforadmin2014

:3 :3 :like: :like: :3 :3
#Ethanforasslicker2013
#Hoboforasslicker2013

easy enough? be professional, not the asslicker, write own reply if you want to add something usefull, if not, you know what to do..

A lot of people bringing up Staff as an "excuse" or "reason" for issues, well, it's not a reason i don't play anymore, i purely hate the lag and latency. I know i sound like a broken record, but this was primarily a Euro server and moving to the US when during peak times, the US had 40 players on max is just not right, I've no doubt there are euro servers with DDoS protection and i will stand by my offer to donate the server running costs monthly without ever even seeing the admin panel, this isn't to become admin or staff again in any way, i just want to come back to the old ways!

Also, hi Snake, thanks for replying, Ethan wasn't ass licking though, he was agreeing with me, what he said was partially sarcastic, i've lost all want to become staff not because i have no faith, but because my time has already been served, it's only right that other players get a chance to be in the limelight.

I will ask some admins to remove the flaming / deogatory comments to ensure there are no arguments, this thread is about discussing what you think as a community (apart from updates) could help you enjoy the experience, and ensure continued play time.

Arguing just says to mick "what's the point in going out of my way to help people who are just being immature?"

Lindsey


EDIT: Snake has agreed maturely to remove his comments without moderation, which is great!

Also, i've logged in online today and found the server to be located in the EU, which is fantastic news, i look forward to some convoys!

Merry christmas everyone and I WILL be online on christmas day!