New automatic ban system that will fear hackers

[AviatorAysar]

Hello everybody,

Cant we make a system, that ban hackers on loggin in. for example whenever someone other than admins / mods car jack or teleport things, or other hacking tings.. ban him automatically.. try it, i know it may cause some problems, but we can keep it for a while, all hackers will know that there is no way to hack, then we can disable this system..

[UncleDrew]

so u mean like smokey will ban hackers? even smokey is banning hackers?

[Shock]

Server already has an anticheat.

[AviatorAysar]

You want the truth?? Till 2 hours ago I noticed that Smokey is an anticheat.. I thought he is the boss of the hackers XD

Okay so why dont Smokey ban them all??
Cant we update anything to improve it ??

[Shock]

He eventualy bans them.

[AviatorAysar]

but how are we getting hacked and jacked
move this topic to general discussion maybe since no suggestion here??

[Shock]

Hack has to be used in order to be detected.

[AviatorAysar]

I think they are hacking and teleporting more then one car, and after destroying every player on the server, they are detecting him.. i know hacked make it fast, shouldnt smokey be faster then??

[CarlJohnson]

Smokey works just fine enough, however it may not be able to detect every hack but it does for most of them, FYI he bans for teleport hacks too.

"Cant we make a system, that ban hackers on loggin in"
Do you think they come with a [hacker] tag?  Or be like this "Hi! Im a hacker!"

Also players are expected to use some common sense, if you know a hacker is on, you shouldn't be stubborn and keep on driving. Get down and stay away from vehicles.

[Ethan]

move this topic to general discussion maybe since no suggestion here??

please move it because I dont want to be warned for replying in a suggestions topic

Also players are expected to use some common sense, if you know a hacker is on, you shouldn't be a dickhead and keep on driving. Get down and stay away from vehicles.

yes, please use common sense, get a program to record your game so you can report them.

[AviatorAysar]

Smokey works just fine enough, however it may not be able to detect every hack but it does for most of them, FYI he bans for teleport hacks too.

"Cant we make a system, that ban hackers on loggin in"
Do you think they come with a [hacker] tag?  Or be like this "Hi! Im a hacker!"


I didnt say that mate, i said whenever the first car is jacked he should be banned..

I know its working fine, but improvments are asked always.
Also players are expected to use some common sense, if you know a hacker is on, you shouldn't be a dickhead and keep on driving. Get down and stay away from vehicles.

[CarlJohnson]

We can't make anti cheat ban people whenever they jack some car, use some common sense ..... How will we know it's not hacker and a normal player when a normal player manages to car jack someone? (Its possible)

Also anti cheat waits before banning someone so that innocent players with false warning may not get banned.

[AviatorAysar]

We can't make anti cheat ban people whenever they jack some car, use some common sense ..... How will we know it's not hacker and a normal player when a normal player manages to car jack someone? (Its possible)

Also anti cheat waits before banning someone so that innocent players with false warning may not get banned.

Please stop telling me to use common sense.. never tried to car jack someone i thought its not allowed, maybe there is mission for it. if yes,

i have a solution: make car jacking score 100+ then hackers wont be able to car jack any1

[Sjomp]

It's not that easy Cesar, I am pretty sure if it's needed and they can scripters will update smokey.

[AviatorAysar]

It's not that easy Cesar, I am pretty sure if it's needed and they can scripters will update smokey.

Sure, they can, i wish i dont have exams i would join you guys and helped you..

Bro i know something, that there is nothing called impossible nothing at all

[Shock]

Scripter's and other development team member are trusted players, but with your recent behavior i doubt you'll get a chance to join them.

[Joshy]

Also players are expected to use some common sense, if you know a hacker is on, you shouldn't be a dickhead and keep on driving. Get down and stay away from vehicles.

I don't think it's fair to expect players who are targeted by cheaters to know what to do, and it's definitely not okay to call those who try to continue as normal "dickheads" - watch your attitude.

I will also point out that I was working on re-writing the anti-cheat script at some point early last year, the current "vehicle warp" detection covers those who teleport between vehicles as drivers but not as passengers, and not as those teleporting unoccupied vehicles.

This is a snippet of code from the branch, I don't know if it works but it might help.
[hide=code]


// FYI my anticheat script uses ALS hooks to transparently detect cheats from SA-MP callbacks (which is why you see the re-declaration of OUVU here)
forward OnUnoccupiedVehicleUpdate(vehicleid, playerid, passenger_seat, Float:new_x, Float:new_y, Float:new_z, Float:vel_x, Float:vel_y, Float:vel_z);
public OnUnoccupiedVehicleUpdate(vehicleid, playerid, passenger_seat, Float:new_x, Float:new_y, Float:new_z, Float:vel_x, Float:vel_y, Float:vel_z) {

// NaN coords check (this is irrelevant to this topic)
        // ...

// Teleporting unocc vehicle

new Float:distance = GetVehicleDistanceFromPoint(vehicleid, new_x, new_y, new_z);

if (distance > 50.0) { // maybe this is okay, maybe it is not? Could detect based on how many vehicles the player moved recently too.

printf("%s moved unoccupied %s (%d) too far (dist %.1f m)", PlayerName[playerid],

VName[GetVehicleModel(vehicleid)], OwnedVehicles[vehicleid], distance);

new Float:x, Float:y, Float:z;

GetVehiclePos(vehicleid, x, y, z);

SetVehiclePos(vehicleid, x, y, z);

PlayerUnoccVehicleWarpCount[playerid]++;

if (PlayerUnoccVehicleWarpCount[playerid] >= MAX_UNOCC_VEHICLE_WARP_COUNT) {

printf("%s has exceeded max unoccupied vehicle warp count, kicking.", PlayerName[playerid]);

Kick(playerid);

}

return 0;

}
}[/hide]

This isn't magical code, in fact it's very simple:
If an unoccupied vehicle is moved 50+m by a player, increment the respective counter by one. If the counter value is too high, kick them.

edit: I don't know if the cheats are even worse now compared to before, but instead of doing nothing about it, at least add some printf calls throughout the SA-MP callbacks so you could maybe figure out how the cheats work.

[CarlJohnson]

Well I feel I went a bit far, sorry about that (pretty pissed about not being able to go to waterpark today and because of people spamming my mailbox by sending me forum pm to come online)
I'll do something about it if I manage to fix my PC here or once I return.

Until then bear with it and try to avoid driving whilst hacker is on.

Hackers or anyone else for that matter cant car jack others unless he's theif. So your "make car jacking score 100+ then hackers wont be able to car jack any1" statement is invalid. 
It's only possible under certain circumstances when a player is able to jack other player .
Sorry again

[UncleDrew]

i guess it will take long time for scripter to update smokey

[AviatorAysar]

Wait CJ can u explain again, what i understood is:

Hackers go thiefs, then they car jack people, but those hackers score is 0, so if we set score to 100 they car jack it right??
or did I mention something wrong??
Anyway, why dont smokey ban the ip as well??



@Shock: I wont open this argument again, but maybe you can ask the admin that solved the problem about my behavior.
Because my behavior was the best and one of you said that (mods)!!

I will join you!!  Wait me 2 weeks more or maybe 3 let my exams finish 
 

[Shock]

Wait CJ can u explain again, what i understood is:

Hackers go thiefs, then they car jack people, but those hackers score is 0, so if we set score to 100 they car jack it right??
or did I mention something wrong??
Anyway, why dont smokey ban the ip as well??

Smokey ban's their ip. Also you need 10 truckloads to be theift.

[Dobby]

No. Not reliable at all. If you get banned from a hacker post an appeal and stop being lazy. Simple really

We'll update smokey as and when it's required.