senseless control of the forum...

Started by Rubber, January 14, 2014, 04:09

X_Raided

n no admin addressed the fact that sardarji and hobo were completely off topic for 4 posts...why are they not warned???


trying to see from admans point of veiw

Dobby

I have nothing more to say on the matter. If you don't like how a staff member acts, start a complaint. If its about them, they cant lock it, last time i checked. But im just a moderator what do i know. Just don't target staff and learn how to use constructive criticism. Or however the hell its spelled. Basically it means, be nice, but point out the bad sides to them. Example:

Dobby:
  • Good: Fun guy, farts smell nice.
  • Bad: Uses moderator powers a bit too much, could do with stepping back and thinking before acting.

    Not:

    OMG i hate dobby wtf admens why you promote him, hes an abuser omg wtf

    Quote from: X_Raided on January 15, 2014, 17:38
    n no admin addressed the fact that sardarji and hobo were completely off topic for 4 posts...why are they not warned???

    Report the post :) if you feel it was off topic, and others do too, ill remove it.
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X_Raided

youll remove it? man your ridiculous, if i had posted 1 comment going off topic i would be warned immediately...its happened before..now since your buddies are the ones off topic they need to have a report that will probably have nothing done about it???


trying to see from admans point of veiw

Dobby

You're off topic now. Do you see my deleting your replies? :) nope. I'm not.
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sardarji

X_Raided cool the fuck down. And if u dont care just leave why are u here ?

And as u said i went offtopic. oh c'mon it was a friendly and he was just asking something.
and it was only 1-2 posts not a full page of bullshit.

It was not like other ppl go offtopic complaining and insuting.

And if u think that was wrong just report us.



X_Raided

sardajri i dont give a shit about you going off topic...thats where your making a mistake..its the principal of the matter. if it were me that went off topic even just 1 post i would be warned without hesitation. as i stated, it was nothing against you or hobo, but you seem to have taken it way out of context...do you need me to draw you a picture so you might understand better? think before making yourself out to be a fool.

back to the topic at hand, this place would be much more enjoyable and admins you will save yourselves alot of time if we could just let the petty shit go...really? you ban someone for flying to low? this is just silly...this is only one example i can pull out many from this past week alone. why will we want to come here n risk being banned for simply trying to have fun (no harm to other players) when we could just go to another server and fly low without punishment...
now, since i KNOW someone is gonna come here n try to point out why this ban was correct, remember this is just an EXAMPLE..


trying to see from admans point of veiw

Hobo

Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 17:00
Quote from: Hobo on January 14, 2014, 16:58
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:56
Quote from: Hobo on January 14, 2014, 16:49
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:47
I dont know why u guys warn....just dont approve their messages. If they post multiple times then warn them.
Why did you resign?
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,43557.msg259109.html#msg259109
But why r u asking now ? :P
You were a good mod. Plz come back
lol. Thank you
I'll come back if u come too ;)
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Polaco

Players shall be free to express everywhere (Except on others players reports/appeals).

Warning them won't solve it since they will complain and complain, about everything, everytime and everywhere. Punish them isn't the solution since it just will make them rage against staff team and staff team will say "Ohh My GOD! He's attacking us, lets ban or warn him (again)".
I know, people as people and as staffs have different tolerances. But on this place and this time, is the time to change it, and could start ingoring some shits here and there.
Players understand a warn/ban like an aggression, so, does it will make things better? Of course, no.
Do you know why Konali hate and rarely ban people who break the rules? Because he knows it will make them rage against him and against staff team. He knows how to talk and make people understand before punish them. Some staff's here should start to act like this, and I guaratee you the number of persons banned or punished will reduce.

No, I didn't read all replies here, and I don't think I need to post it. And NO, I'm not against any side (staffs or players). I wasn't punished unfairly and see it like a way to cry about.

Some people says we need "New Staff" or "Old Staff Team" but NO, we don't. All we need, is change attitude of our actual staffs. Thinking 2 times before punish someone, or talk with person to make him understand the rules, will be 10,100,1000x better than punish him and make him rage against it. Like I said, some admins don't have the patience to do it, but they need, since they're in a position where they will find different people with different ways to think, so, impose rules and make them follow like blind horses won't solve this problem.
I'm saying it, because I'm not so active anymore at server, but always I'm visiting the forum to see what's going on, and all I see, except one or two positive posts, is people fighting and crying.

Staff, we're dumb and somepeople don't speak English, show them rules and punish them for it, won't solve since they didn't even understood the first warning.

@To staffs who already do it: don't blame yourself, you're acting right, talking and talking, making them understand before punish.

Now, I hope don't see anyone (even staffs) coming against me for it.
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SpazzBucket.

That was the best reply in this entire topic Polaco, I never thought of it this way but you're right, I shall start acting different. Instead of punishing saying "we're the boss" "listen to us or punish" we want to have peace because the players want to cooperate, not control them and make them behave out of fear (I know many people aren't even intimidated but you get the point) because with fear there is a point where they just don't care anymore about what the staff say or do and can't be controlled anymore.

Morale of the story: make players want to cooperate and follow the rules, don't try to control everyone through fear and staff commands.
"The more you fail, the more you know.
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Shake

Quote from: SpazzBucket. on January 16, 2014, 07:06
Morale of the story: make players want to cooperate and follow the rules, don't try to control everyone through fear and staff commands.
This should be one thing that new-staff/old-staff should learn ASAP.

Spekter

Polaco, i tip my hat to you for that reply. You understand exactly what is happening and where the problem lies.


Quote from: Polaco on January 16, 2014, 06:27

Do you know why Konali hate and rarely ban people who break the rules? Because he knows it will make them rage against him and against staff team. He knows how to talk and make people understand before punish them. Some staff's here should start to act like this, and I guaratee you the number of persons banned or punished will reduce.



Konali was way smarter than most of the current staff members, no offense intended to anyone but that's just how it is. I am saying this because of the way he used to solve problems can't even be compared with ways some staff members use now. Instead of talking to players, trying to see what is their problem and make them behave appropriately through conversation, this is what they do:



Either ban or warn, it doesn't matter. What matters is that they are acting like brainless machines programmed only to blindly follow 'guidelines' (which are there only to guide, not much more) even when they know it won't solve a problem at all, but only make it bigger.
Now, i don't want anyone to get me wrong, i am not saying that Konali was soft or that he allowed breaking of rules. All i am saying is that he usually tried to solve problems without use of warns/bans. Perhaps if more staff members used similar methods, CT wouldn't be such a warzone it is now.




SpazzBucket.

Now that I think about it I agree, like Konali said, this is a game, we aren't a government or something, people come to have fun, of course we arent going to explain to a hacker that he can't play with hacks, but instead of warn/ban, talk to them like you said.
"The more you fail, the more you know.
When you lose you then try to gain.
The best lessons are learnt through pain"
Quote from: HoboHobo [30 Jan 20:40]:   "Since I don't do that whole guy thing" .... Ok guys, pack up the lemonade stand, she's not interested.
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It doesn't matter how much people are online it's about how much fun you have.
Quote from: braneNext time don't use any porn site to upload pictures. Imgur or Imageshack would be fine. Its not nice to see cocks around while checking the image you came for.
Quote from: TheSandmanBan looks fair. its pathetic when people attack females just because they play an online game, wow.
Quote from: TheSandmanRap is like scissors, it always loses to rock
Quote from: HoboProvoking doesn't brake rules, but it does break them.

Remember to brake for moose so you don't break your car.
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Quote from: Konali on January 12, 2014, 16:41I only had one rule in my head that i used in every situation: its a game, lets keep it that way.

Exontez

After seeing  all those posts, and there is nothing new, every community like this complain about the staff, so i wanna say some trash talk and its about those staff who live in a house that costs like what my driver's bathroom does then they start banning us unfairly thinking they are ??? idk and yeh some scripters thinks they made new OS called windows and they act like bill gates. no u arent lelelel

and now i will get forum burned because i said my opinion lul

Shake

Quote from: Exontez on January 21, 2014, 10:55
After seeing  all those posts, and there is nothing new, every community like this complain about the staff, so i wanna say some trash talk and its about those staff who live in a house that costs like what my driver's bathroom does then they start banning us unfairly thinking they are ??? idk and yeh some scripters thinks they made new OS called windows and they act like bill gates. no u arent lelelel

and now i will get forum burned because i said my opinion lul

1. I didn't understand shit of what you said/what you meant (if anyone could explain it to me in regular english I'd be thankful)
2. Didn't you say "goodbye, I'm leaving" on the forum like 10 times already? Or are you just seeking for attention/wanting another chance?