I received warning for applying to joshys topic regarding staff activity. Why am I not allowed to voice my opinion? It was just one freaking little post related to the topic. I was not going off topic and I did not disrespect anyone. This is just silly. Of course I replied to the same topic with my thoughts on this but after posting I realized I got a warning. However, this post probably wont be approved so nobody will see what I have to say on the matter.
On this note, I will post my thoughts and complaints here... Why are players allowed to view and reply to topics they are not supposed to? To me, the complaints section should be HIGHLY player-oriented since PLAYERS have complaints and have opinions on the matter. So WHY IS THE COMPLAINTS BOARD VISIBLE TO PLAYERS? Just move it to admin board if it doesnt concern players. This incident really pissed me off. Why are staff acting like dictators recently? The forum is here for players. If staff need to discuss something, take it to the staff board... But dont warn players for posting a relevant post on something they CAN post to...
Not only would I like my warn removed, I would like the complaints section just moved to the staff board. And staff: please dont act like you own the place....you dont. The server and forum would be NOTHING without players. I am a multi-donater and really old player here. Over the past year, both the server and forum have become more and more like a dictatorship. Staff members need a reality check. You were all regular players once. How would you feel if you were warned for posting something useful to a topic you have right to post in? This is rediculous....
And please let PLAYERS respond to this topic since it does involve PLAYERS.
This is going to turn into a huge "Lets attack staff" type of thread.
you received a warning because you are no longer staff and have no relevance replying. it does not matter if you never went offtopic or disrespected anyone, you know you shouldnt have posted to begin with.
I dont get the whole statement of why problems and complaints should be moved to admin board.. then why do we have it to begin with if people dont have a proper area to go to lodge complaints, the general or report player would be spammed with stuff. It concerns or relates to players simply so people can see previous complaints and learn not to do it over and learn from previous 'complaints.'
warning will be lowered but the complaints section wont be moved, its been there since I can remember.
this topic does involve players, however, people must keep it on some sort of constructed topic (dont know exactly what that will be but) or it will get locked again
Quote from: Ethan on January 14, 2014, 05:26
you received a warning because you are no longer staff and have no relevance replying. it does not matter if you never went offtopic or disrespected anyone, you know you shouldnt have posted to begin with.
I dont get the whole statement of why problems and complaints should be moved to admin board.. then why do we have it to begin with if people dont have a proper area to go to lodge complaints, the general or report player would be spammed with stuff. It concerns or relates to players simply so people can see previous complaints and learn not to do it over and learn from previous 'complaints.'
warning will be lowered but the complaints section wont be moved, its been there since I can remember.
this topic does involve players, however, people must keep it on some sort of constructed topic (dont know exactly what that will be but) or it will get locked again
Thank you ethan for the first relevent post. I posted there because I thought since I was a player I was allowed to as long as I provided something useful...which I thought I did (however this is highly open to opinions). My point with moving the board was simply to make a point. Im not actually saying move it, im saying whats the point of having it there for everyone to see if nobody can post? If thats the case, then it should be staff section only. However, it is there for everyone to see because we CAN post there....which has been my point and complaint all along. I was not in the wrong in posting there. You all say we cant post there unless we are staff.. but you are wrong according to the topic created by lindsey. I am not trying to turn this into a flame war in any way, I just wish the forum were a little more lenient and open. Nobody likes having 100% of their lives controlled, and I frankly dont like the way I am treated here on the forum sometimes.
Rubber, i dont want to come off as heated and hostile, so im sorry if you read my post that way.
The complaint section is for formal complaints, if other players post their opinions, (particularly without support evidence/proof), then everything becomes messy and it makes the complaint harder to complete.
The section is there for anyone to make a proper complaint, anyone can reply but it doesnt mean you should.
For example, if you get accused of something, then you are free to defend yourself.
If you have extra/supporting evidence, then by all means reply, but opinions dont count. We do reserve the right to read and decide what constitutes as an opinion or evidence.
The topic Lindsey wrote in 2012 (more than 18 months ago) is outdated, situations and procedures have changed.
As i said before, i dont want to seem hostile, but as an ex (fantastic, perfect understanding of everything) moderator, you should know this already.
I totally agree with Rubber. In my opinion, if it wasnt suppose to be there, warn the moderator for accepting the post onto that thread.
Rubber, I don't understand why are you so surprised. It is known that there are a few dictators among staff, whom believe they possess unlimited power in deciding what are the players able to say.
i was warned 30% few months ago for posting in a ban appeal by some dictator
i was warned 20% for posting in a complain about me
do you see me crying? :'(
I dont know why u guys warn....just dont approve their messages. If they post multiple times then warn them.
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:47
I dont know why u guys warn....just dont approve their messages. If they post multiple times then warn them.
Why did you resign?
Quote from: Hobo on January 14, 2014, 16:49
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:47
I dont know why u guys warn....just dont approve their messages. If they post multiple times then warn them.
Why did you resign?
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,43557.msg259109.html#msg259109
But why r u asking now ? :P
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:56
Quote from: Hobo on January 14, 2014, 16:49
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:47
I dont know why u guys warn....just dont approve their messages. If they post multiple times then warn them.
Why did you resign?
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,43557.msg259109.html#msg259109
But why r u asking now ? :P
You were a good mod. Plz come back
Quote from: Hobo on January 14, 2014, 16:58
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:56
Quote from: Hobo on January 14, 2014, 16:49
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:47
I dont know why u guys warn....just dont approve their messages. If they post multiple times then warn them.
Why did you resign?
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,43557.msg259109.html#msg259109
But why r u asking now ? :P
You were a good mod. Plz come back
lol. Thank you
I'll come back if u come too ;)
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:47
I dont know why u guys warn....just dont approve their messages. If they post multiple times then warn them.
Because that's not fun. Certain individuals in the staff team are not missing any opportunities to warn players, even for the smallest things possible. And recently, they started dealing out 20 day bans as well. :like: :dislike:
Quote from: Spectre on January 14, 2014, 17:16
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:47
I dont know why u guys warn....just dont approve their messages. If they post multiple times then warn them.
Because that's not fun. Certain individuals in the staff team are not missing any opportunities to warn players, even for the smallest things possible. And recently, they started dealing out 20 day bans as well. :like: :dislike:
20 days were too much for a single word u said :P
Welcome back xD
so why not ban every current staff member, make everyone a new staff, and then we can all have a big warn and ban-a-thon so its keeps everyone happy?
Quote from: Ethan on January 14, 2014, 19:22
so why not ban every current staff member, make everyone a new staff, and then we can all have a big warn and ban-a-thon so its keeps everyone happy?
Or why not just ban everyone for 20 days? That sure sounds great to you.
and that's how CT community is going with BIG steps DOWN :dislike:
Quote from: Spectre on January 14, 2014, 19:26
Quote from: Ethan on January 14, 2014, 19:22
so why not ban every current staff member, make everyone a new staff, and then we can all have a big warn and ban-a-thon so its keeps everyone happy?
Or why not just ban everyone for 20 days? That sure sounds great to you.
I see what you did there.
:like:
I think its time to stop all this.
Fighting with each other wont take us anywhere. we wont achieve a damn thing.
We all should be together. In that way we could play peacefully and happyly.
All i wanted to say is staff should create more friendly atmosphere. They should tell players what wrong they are doing and whats the correct way. Its not all about banning and warning ppl.
No doubt they are doing a fantastic job. No one is perfect so mistakes happen ,we should ignore such small things.
Anyway we should forget all this and start over again.
sardarji, you don't understand. It appears some of them get some kind of joy when punishing players. Why is it like that that i don't know, but that's how it is. They take their dictator role too seriously and forget that this is a game, and that people are supposed to have fun. And some of them are going too far.
Quote from: Spectre on January 14, 2014, 19:56
sardarji, you don't understand. It appears some of them get some kind of joy when punishing players. Why is it like that that i don't know, but that's how it is. They take their dictator role too seriously and forget that this is a game, and that people are supposed to have fun. And some of them are going too far.
We're on their target list (yeah, they do have a target list, it's pretty obvious) because, apparently, we are """trolls""".
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 19:46
All i wanted to say is staff should create more friendly atmosphere. They should tell players what wrong they are doing and whats the correct way. Its not all about banning and warning ppl.
staff shouldnt have to warn and ban people if everyone played by the rules put forth three years ago by the Server Owner
Quote from: Spectre on January 14, 2014, 19:56
sardarji, you don't understand. It appears some of them get some kind of joy when punishing players. Why is it like that that i don't know, but that's how it is. They take their dictator role too seriously and forget that this is a game, and that people are supposed to have fun. And some of them are going too far.
EXACTLY. Unfortunately I didnt realize this fact until after I resigned as staff. When I was a mod I did like the power of being able to control people a bit. I did however enjoy helping people more. Once I resigned, I saw that staff can be a bit controlling towards players. I wish I had realized this when I was staff so I could have done a better job. This is why I just say some staff members need a reality check. Yes, rules need to be followed, and I am a big supporter of this...but some of the punishments are just getting WAY out of hand. I mean come on...dont be so quick to warn or ban. You can kick, mute, message them, or /slap them. Afterall, it is a game, and the forum goes along with it. Lighten up. Please.
Quote from: Ethan on January 14, 2014, 20:10
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 19:46
All i wanted to say is staff should create more friendly atmosphere. They should tell players what wrong they are doing and whats the correct way. Its not all about banning and warning ppl.
staff shouldnt have to warn and ban people if everyone played by the rules put forth three years ago by the Server Owner
Yeah...Your correct in your place but Rules are meant to be broken (just kidding)
Little mistakes or some wrong thing can be ignored,right ?
Like on forum. If u post in problem & complaints board u get a warning. I want to ask why is there a need of a warning ?
Just dont approve the message. Simple as that.
Anyway. Your correct as a admin. You broke a rule u get a warning but think as a normal player. How would u feel if u get warned for posting your opinion.
@Shake : Trust me there is no such list like that. You are wrong here.
@Rubber & Spectre : Everyone deserve a second chance. lets forget this and lets see what happens in future.
Peace.
My reply on this topic is.
Like everyone says STAFF IS A DICTATORSHIP! Long long times ago when everything was nice we didn't care about saying penis or fuck you dickhead. It was a mute and that's it. Now its a ban of 100 days. Yes its true, y'all ban for everything now. Warn and kick doesn't exist. Y'all prefer banning people and listen over and over of people complaining about your stupid decisions. I'm a big hater of lindsey, but atm I believe that she was way much better then you all combined together. You guys turned into crazy machines who just auto type /ban [ID] [Reason] [How long]. And about their inactivity I'm on Joshy's side. Don't just come and say you go online whenever you want. When I was a mod they recommended to be online 4 days a week atleast or you were inactive. Now you can be inactive for a year and admins won't care abit. Why cuz they are inactive too. Even if the server is empty i've seen smaller server with staff members online. I don't think we will actually reach far without some active mods. Even though there aren't any hackers or players to warn its better to have someone online for suprises.
No such list? Then why did Spectre get banned for 20 days? Same with Szaj. Let me remind you that Ethan also said, long time ago that all "pijon members" would get banned. Coincidence? Think not.
Quote from: Shake on January 14, 2014, 20:33
No such list? Then why did Spectre get banned for 20 days? Same with Szaj. Let me remind you that Ethan also said, long time ago that all "pijon members" would get banned. Coincidence? Think not.
Idk what happened with spectre,maybe something related with past or he did something wrong few days ago thats why he got that punishment.
I dont have a clue.
And are sajmon and vinny banned for using ethans pic ?
If yes. then there is nothing wrong and they deserve the ban...
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 20:45
Quote from: Shake on January 14, 2014, 20:33
No such list? Then why did Spectre get banned for 20 days? Same with Szaj. Let me remind you that Ethan also said, long time ago that all "pijon members" would get banned. Coincidence? Think not.
They got their ban (Szaj did I think?) extended dunno why though. Spectre did nothing on the past, plus he rarely spoke about Ethan.
Idk what happened with spectre,maybe something related with past or he did something wrong few days ago thats why he got that punishment.
I dont have a clue.
And are sajmon and vinny banned for using ethans pic ?
If yes. then there is nothing wrong and they deserve the ban...
Quote from: Shake on January 14, 2014, 20:33
No such list? Then why did Spectre get banned for 20 days? Same with Szaj. Let me remind you that Ethan also said, long time ago that all "pijon members" would get banned. Coincidence? Think not.
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/f6/f6ebff4768d396b7a9c080232d83f9f3aa0bc638ab50f494d4c8038f3f6f9682.jpg)
Quote from: Shake on January 14, 2014, 20:33
No such list? Then why did Spectre get banned for 20 days? Same with Szaj. Let me remind you that Ethan also said, long time ago that all "pijon members" would get banned. Coincidence? Think not.
There is a list, of course. Right now, I am shoutbox banned because I was talking how Ethan abused. But he didn't get banned for this:
Ethan [14 Jan 16:00]:spectre, you can go to fucking hell . just shut the fuck up
Quote from: Spectre on January 14, 2014, 21:06
Quote from: Shake on January 14, 2014, 20:33
No such list? Then why did Spectre get banned for 20 days? Same with Szaj. Let me remind you that Ethan also said, long time ago that all "pijon members" would get banned. Coincidence? Think not.
There is a list, of course. Right now, I am shoutbox banned because I was talking how Ethan abused. But he didn't get banned for this:
Ethan [14 Jan 16:00]:spectre, you can go to fucking hell . just shut the fuck up
Report him for it. I take that as an offence. But be careful because if you provoked him, the report may not go well.
I wont pick sides, im merely giving my advice as Konali.
You can always contest his decision by sending mick an email. But only when you have clear reason it was abuse of powers or misbehaviour.
--
And i think you can talk as much as you want here, voice out your opinions. But aslong mick is not active daily on the forum and ingame, he will not be able to help out, and you have to trust the staff team to do their job correctly.
I can also assure you guys, there is no list whatsoever with bad players. Joshy can back me up with the following. There was a time, such a list did exist, joshy made it, but nobody used it besides joshy himself and ultimatly it got removed.
The only reason you think you are being targeted is simple, your behaviour does not fit the way they want to see you behave. Whether that has to do with breaking rules or just common misunderstandments about what behaviour is acceptable and not, there is nothing you can do about it, unless you become Admin yourself and have mick's trust and permission to rule things around here. I resigned because i felt the inconsistenties became to big. It demotivated me, and eventually as i said, nothing will be done unless you gain a powerfull position and the trust of mick and you can make fair good arguments. So far i only have seen 4 players doing this, Lindsey, Joshy , Vado19 and myself.
So you can wait till new persons step up and do it correctly, or you trust the staff team that is there right now, which i do, and accept nobody is perfect, there will always be flaws and discussions, and realise its only a game.
Konali
Quote from: Konali on January 14, 2014, 21:17
I can also assure you guys, there is no list whatsoever with bad players. Joshy can back me up with the following. There was a time, such a list did exist, joshy made it, but nobody used it besides joshy himself and ultimatly it got removed.
Pretty much what he said, this was many, many months ago and I remember it contained Seraphim... It wasn't a list as such, more of a way to track if a player was rehabilitating according to punishment.
Quote from: Rubber on January 14, 2014, 21:11
Quote from: Spectre on January 14, 2014, 21:06
Quote from: Shake on January 14, 2014, 20:33
No such list? Then why did Spectre get banned for 20 days? Same with Szaj. Let me remind you that Ethan also said, long time ago that all "pijon members" would get banned. Coincidence? Think not.
There is a list, of course. Right now, I am shoutbox banned because I was talking how Ethan abused. But he didn't get banned for this:
Ethan [14 Jan 16:00]:spectre, you can go to fucking hell . just shut the fuck up
Report him for it. I take that as an offence. But be careful because if you provoked him, the report may not go well.
I didn't provoke him, i was merely telling the truth, which he doesn't like i would say. I was talking about him not having proof to forum ban me for 20 days, and that was the cause for such an outburst. Not acceptable for an administrator.
However, i'm not going to report him just for that. I will contact mick personally, and i will just add it to the list: banning players without proof and for personal reasons, refusing to show the proof of the broken rule to the punished player, locking complaints against him by HIMSELF (twice).
now people besides me are seeing that this place has turned into Nazi Germany...just take a look at page 1, sardarji and hobo going off topic, nothing against them but shouldnt they be forum warned? im sure if it was me going off topic i would have been warned by this same dictator..but they dont because they are friends with him...i think we all know who this clown is...
n everyone wonder why its 13/100 players...this place is a joke now, FUN and OPINIONs has been perm banned by all the new moderator...pathetic
n now konali gone????hahaha the only guy with atleast 3/4 of a brain???? lol this place is DOOMED
Continue to attack staff, i'll lock it.
Quote from: X_Raided on January 15, 2014, 17:08
now people besides me are seeing that this place has turned into Nazi Germany...just take a look at page 1, sardarji and hobo going off topic, nothing against them but shouldnt they be forum warned? im sure if it was me going off topic i would have been warned by this same dictator..but they dont because they are friends with him...i think we all know who this clown is...
n everyone wonder why its 13/100 players...this place is a joke now, FUN and OPINIONs has been perm banned by all the new moderator...pathetic
I know who you mean by this. Stop it. Now
Quote from: Dobby on January 15, 2014, 17:18
Continue to attack staff, i'll lock it.
Quote from: X_Raided on January 15, 2014, 17:08
now people besides me are seeing that this place has turned into Nazi Germany...just take a look at page 1, sardarji and hobo going off topic, nothing against them but shouldnt they be forum warned? im sure if it was me going off topic i would have been warned by this same dictator..but they dont because they are friends with him...i think we all know who this clown is...
n everyone wonder why its 13/100 players...this place is a joke now, FUN and OPINIONs has been perm banned by all the new moderator...pathetic
I know who you mean by this. Stop it. Now
Oh and don't forget to calm down X Raided, the consequences can be pretty serious.
He's still here is he not? I meant what i said to you earlier ingame. I'll be less harsh with punishments now.
I don't think i have to explain why i doubt that. The time will show.
Quote from: Dobby on January 15, 2014, 17:27
He's still here is he not? I meant what i said to you earlier ingame. I'll be less harsh with punishments now.
Less harsh or not this sentence is true :
"everyone wonder why its 13/100 players...this place is a joke now, FUN and OPINIONs has been perm banned by all the new moderator...pathetic"
So, start a complaint, and an admin will look at it.
Quote from: Dobby on January 15, 2014, 17:33
So, start a complaint, and an admin will look at it.
The admin will look at it, and then immediately lock it even though the complaint is about him. I don't see much use of complaints anymore.
consequence? does anyone here think i care about a consequence? i havnt been in game in probably over a month and only come here cause im waiting for this place to go back to the game i spent 500 fucking hours on...maybe then i will start playing again...and this isnt only the case for me many feel the same way...why would we waste time playing a game thats no longer enjoyable due to the way admins are running it...dobby you can warn and ban me all you want, it doesnt change the facts, it only suppresses them for the time being.
n no admin addressed the fact that sardarji and hobo were completely off topic for 4 posts...why are they not warned???
I have nothing more to say on the matter. If you don't like how a staff member acts, start a complaint. If its about them, they
cant lock it, last time i checked. But im just a moderator what do i know. Just don't target staff and learn how to use constructive criticism. Or however the hell its spelled. Basically it means, be nice, but point out the bad sides to them. Example:
Dobby:
- Good: Fun guy, farts smell nice.
- Bad: Uses moderator powers a bit too much, could do with stepping back and thinking before acting.
Not:
OMG i hate dobby wtf admens why you promote him, hes an abuser omg wtf
Quote from: X_Raided on January 15, 2014, 17:38
n no admin addressed the fact that sardarji and hobo were completely off topic for 4 posts...why are they not warned???
Report the post :) if you feel it was off topic, and others do too, ill remove it.
youll remove it? man your ridiculous, if i had posted 1 comment going off topic i would be warned immediately...its happened before..now since your buddies are the ones off topic they need to have a report that will probably have nothing done about it???
You're off topic now. Do you see my deleting your replies? :) nope. I'm not.
X_Raided cool the fuck down. And if u dont care just leave why are u here ?
And as u said i went offtopic. oh c'mon it was a friendly and he was just asking something.
and it was only 1-2 posts not a full page of bullshit.
It was not like other ppl go offtopic complaining and insuting.
And if u think that was wrong just report us.
sardajri i dont give a shit about you going off topic...thats where your making a mistake..its the principal of the matter. if it were me that went off topic even just 1 post i would be warned without hesitation. as i stated, it was nothing against you or hobo, but you seem to have taken it way out of context...do you need me to draw you a picture so you might understand better? think before making yourself out to be a fool.
back to the topic at hand, this place would be much more enjoyable and admins you will save yourselves alot of time if we could just let the petty shit go...really? you ban someone for flying to low? this is just silly...this is only one example i can pull out many from this past week alone. why will we want to come here n risk being banned for simply trying to have fun (no harm to other players) when we could just go to another server and fly low without punishment...
now, since i KNOW someone is gonna come here n try to point out why this ban was correct, remember this is just an EXAMPLE..
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 17:00
Quote from: Hobo on January 14, 2014, 16:58
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:56
Quote from: Hobo on January 14, 2014, 16:49
Quote from: sardarji on January 14, 2014, 16:47
I dont know why u guys warn....just dont approve their messages. If they post multiple times then warn them.
Why did you resign?
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,43557.msg259109.html#msg259109
But why r u asking now ? :P
You were a good mod. Plz come back
lol. Thank you
I'll come back if u come too ;)
Sorry, not going to happen. I'm "2trole4staff". :like: :dislike:
Quote from: Hobo on January 16, 2014, 00:31
Sorry, not going to happen. I'm "2trole4staff".
gz :like:
Players shall be free to express everywhere (Except on others players reports/appeals).
Warning them won't solve it since they will complain and complain, about everything, everytime and everywhere. Punish them isn't the solution since it just will make them rage against staff team and staff team will say "Ohh My GOD! He's attacking us, lets ban or warn him (again)".
I know, people as people and as staffs have different tolerances. But on this place and this time, is the time to change it, and could start ingoring some shits here and there.
Players understand a warn/ban like an aggression, so, does it will make things better? Of course, no.
Do you know why Konali hate and rarely ban people who break the rules? Because he knows it will make them rage against him and against staff team. He knows how to talk and make people understand before punish them. Some staff's here should start to act like this, and I guaratee you the number of persons banned or punished will reduce.
No, I didn't read all replies here, and I don't think I need to post it. And NO, I'm not against any side (staffs or players). I wasn't punished unfairly and see it like a way to cry about.
Some people says we need "New Staff" or "Old Staff Team" but NO, we don't. All we need, is change attitude of our actual staffs. Thinking 2 times before punish someone, or talk with person to make him understand the rules, will be 10,100,1000x better than punish him and make him rage against it. Like I said, some admins don't have the patience to do it, but they need, since they're in a position where they will find different people with different ways to think, so, impose rules and make them follow like blind horses won't solve this problem.
I'm saying it, because I'm not so active anymore at server, but always I'm visiting the forum to see what's going on, and all I see, except one or two positive posts, is people fighting and crying.
Staff, we're dumb and somepeople don't speak English, show them rules and punish them for it, won't solve since they didn't even understood the first warning.
@To staffs who already do it: don't blame yourself, you're acting right, talking and talking, making them understand before punish.
Now, I hope don't see anyone (even staffs) coming against me for it.
That was the best reply in this entire topic Polaco, I never thought of it this way but you're right, I shall start acting different. Instead of punishing saying "we're the boss" "listen to us or punish" we want to have peace because the players want to cooperate, not control them and make them behave out of fear (I know many people aren't even intimidated but you get the point) because with fear there is a point where they just don't care anymore about what the staff say or do and can't be controlled anymore.
Morale of the story: make players want to cooperate and follow the rules, don't try to control everyone through fear and staff commands.
Quote from: SpazzBucket. on January 16, 2014, 07:06
Morale of the story: make players want to cooperate and follow the rules, don't try to control everyone through fear and staff commands.
This should be one thing that new-staff/old-staff should learn ASAP.
Polaco, i tip my hat to you for that reply. You understand exactly what is happening and where the problem lies.
Quote from: Polaco on January 16, 2014, 06:27
Do you know why Konali hate and rarely ban people who break the rules? Because he knows it will make them rage against him and against staff team. He knows how to talk and make people understand before punish them. Some staff's here should start to act like this, and I guaratee you the number of persons banned or punished will reduce.
Konali was way smarter than most of the current staff members, no offense intended to anyone but that's just how it is. I am saying this because of the way he used to solve problems can't even be compared with ways some staff members use now. Instead of talking to players, trying to see what is their problem and make them behave appropriately through conversation, this is what they do:
(http://forum.falloutstudios.org/public/style_emoticons/default/BanButton.gif)
Either ban or warn, it doesn't matter. What matters is that they are acting like brainless machines programmed only to blindly follow 'guidelines' (which are there only to guide, not much more) even when they know it won't solve a problem at all, but only make it bigger.
Now, i don't want anyone to get me wrong, i am not saying that Konali was soft or that he allowed breaking of rules. All i am saying is that he usually tried to solve problems without use of warns/bans. Perhaps if more staff members used similar methods, CT wouldn't be such a warzone it is now.
Now that I think about it I agree, like Konali said, this is a game, we aren't a government or something, people come to have fun, of course we arent going to explain to a hacker that he can't play with hacks, but instead of warn/ban, talk to them like you said.
After seeing all those posts, and there is nothing new, every community like this complain about the staff, so i wanna say some trash talk and its about those staff who live in a house that costs like what my driver's bathroom does then they start banning us unfairly thinking they are ??? idk and yeh some scripters thinks they made new OS called windows and they act like bill gates. no u arent lelelel
and now i will get forum burned because i said my opinion lul
Quote from: Exontez on January 21, 2014, 10:55
After seeing all those posts, and there is nothing new, every community like this complain about the staff, so i wanna say some trash talk and its about those staff who live in a house that costs like what my driver's bathroom does then they start banning us unfairly thinking they are ??? idk and yeh some scripters thinks they made new OS called windows and they act like bill gates. no u arent lelelel
and now i will get forum burned because i said my opinion lul
1. I didn't understand shit of what you said/what you meant (if anyone could explain it to me in regular english I'd be thankful)
2. Didn't you say "goodbye, I'm leaving" on the forum like 10 times already? Or are you just seeking for attention/wanting another chance?
Quote from: Shake on January 21, 2014, 12:39
Quote from: Exontez on January 21, 2014, 10:55
After seeing all those posts, and there is nothing new, every community like this complain about the staff, so i wanna say some trash talk and its about those staff who live in a house that costs like what my driver's bathroom does then they start banning us unfairly thinking they are ??? idk and yeh some scripters thinks they made new OS called windows and they act like bill gates. no u arent lelelel
and now i will get forum burned because i said my opinion lul
1. I didn't understand shit of what you said/what you meant (if anyone could explain it to me in regular english I'd be thankful)
2. Didn't you say "goodbye, I'm leaving" on the forum like 10 times already? Or are you just seeking for attention/wanting another chance?
lol , i didnt say im leaving , neither im seeking for attention, and about chances im already getting unbanned in some days like 40 or idk :P
Player banned for the next 132 days for 'ban evading'
Quote from: Dobby on January 21, 2014, 17:32
Player banned for the next 132 days for 'ban evading'
look, dont get my nerves please then you will see the whole community crying, please
and last time i checked 2 months ago i was 110 days left.. so now like 50 or 40
Quote from: Exontez on January 21, 2014, 18:10
Quote from: Dobby on January 21, 2014, 17:32
Player banned for the next 132 days for 'ban evading'
look, dont get my nerves please then you will see the whole community crying, please
and last time i checked 2 months ago i was 110 days left.. so now like 50 or 40
Check again on your "Exontez" or whateverthefuck it is account. I'm tired of your shit "bently".
Quote from: Exontez on January 21, 2014, 18:10
Quote from: Dobby on January 21, 2014, 17:32
Player banned for the next 132 days for 'ban evading'
look, dont get my nerves please then you will see the whole community crying, please
and last time i checked 2 months ago i was 110 days left.. so now like 50 or 40
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annddd we are going off topic ...
Quote from: TheGame on January 21, 2014, 18:16
annddd we are going off topic ...
But it's ok because it's a forum and a game. Things are meant to be fun in games. And to be honest...Supreme's placement of that pic was perfect! hahaha
i get the feeling people are gonna be raging over that Rubber xD but yus, supremes photo was well timed
Quote from: Dobby on January 21, 2014, 18:20
i get the feeling people are gonna be raging over that Rubber xD but yus, supremes photo was well timed
I know, people are entitled to think whatever they want to think. I'm just pointing out that people should look at things with a more lighthearted outlook. No need for people to be all uptight over one little off topic post that made me laugh. It seems the community has gotten so hell-bent on making people suffer or pay the consequences for bending one little rule (and by 'community', I don't mean JUST the staff...it's everyone nowadays). I guess this post is off topic too, LOL. Oh well.
OMG Rubber stay on topic :o
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Quote from: Dobby on January 21, 2014, 18:38
OMG Rubber stay on topic :o
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its funny because staff is killing the server
Quote from: Terrorista310 on January 21, 2014, 18:44
its funny because staff is killing the server
To be fair though, it's not JUST the staff...
Quote from: Terrorista310 on January 21, 2014, 18:44
its funny because staff is killing the server
Too bad it's already dead
Quote from: Rubber on January 21, 2014, 18:49
Quote from: Terrorista310 on January 21, 2014, 18:44
its funny because staff is killing the server
To be fair though, it's not JUST the staff...
yes its the host too, even tm got more players than cvt now ahahah
Quote from: Dobby on January 21, 2014, 18:12
Quote from: Exontez on January 21, 2014, 18:10
Quote from: Dobby on January 21, 2014, 17:32
Player banned for the next 132 days for 'ban evading'
look, dont get my nerves please then you will see the whole community crying, please
and last time i checked 2 months ago i was 110 days left.. so now like 50 or 40
Check again on your "Exontez" or whateverthefuck it is account. I'm tired of your shit "bently".
that "bently" is worth more than what ur whole neighborhood wealth.. lel
Quote from: Spectre on January 21, 2014, 18:50
Quote from: Terrorista310 on January 21, 2014, 18:44
its funny because staff is killing the server
Too bad it's already dead
Agreed
What's worth on a guy who attacked the server for god knows how long like a no-lifer?
Agrees that server is dead, still waits for unban. Well...
And to all you guys saying server is dead but still going in-game from time to time or visiting forum every day (or once a few days), if it's dead then what are you doing here? Just stop this negative bullshit already, stop accusing staff of letting CT die, stop saying they are nazis or dictators, JUST FUCKING STOP. It's not even fun anymore coming on forum and seeing this argue every single fucking day.
About the nazi/dictator part, people have different levels of toleration, some things have more impact for someone than for someone else. If someone fucks up (either staff or player) they can choose to ignore their mistake or just say they're wrong, the latter part unfortunately doesn't happen here anymore. Too bad.
Quote from: Rubber on January 21, 2014, 18:36
I know, people are entitled to think whatever they want to think. I'm just pointing out that people should look at things with a more lighthearted outlook. No need for people to be all uptight over one little off topic post that made me laugh. It seems the community has gotten so hell-bent on making people suffer or pay the consequences for bending one little rule (and by 'community', I don't mean JUST the staff...it's everyone nowadays). I guess this post is off topic too, LOL. Oh well.
This is why I have many respect for you.
EDIT:Also the shoutbox is a place for friendly conversations, that happens rarely now.
Also these words you just read apply to everyone, not just for staff.
Oh don't worry Supreme, we won't be here for much longer. At least I won't.
I keep saying that server is dead, simply because i remember how it used to be in 2011/2012. Today, it's just a pale shadow of it's former glory. Or in other words, dead.
Btw, being a dictator is not about low levels of tolerance, but i am not going to bother explaining that to you, i just don't know how coudln't you realise it already.
Some admins like Spazz really read what I said, but some didn't = they're so much ignorant to face the truth. They know they're wrong, but they won't change cause the system, for them, is fine how this shit is now. I hope someday they need someone like good people, but never will have one. I'm just so impressed how some people can ignore the reality and live in a world where they're the center, the king, who everyone need to respect and follow their rules like blind horses, never asking reasons. I'm just full of this shit, because I know there are good people who really like to think if what they do is really right, and really want to make dumb people smart than they're, showing them how this dirty system works. But, there are some people who like do to dirty job with this fucking system, who don't even care about anyone, unless this person pose a risk to it. These people are just ignorant, heathen. They love to live in his world (Even this one being fair or not) and don't give a fuck about this. The reason? Some people have fear and some just don't care to change it to better, because this "little confort" is enough for them. That's why, not just here but in all the world, have few people feeling so fine, and a lot feeling bad. Because, even if trought these people who feel bad, have few who want to change it, the rest of them just want accept it. Is the same here, now, even if there's people who really like to change this fucked up system, a lot just don't care till it hit them.
That's the time to stupid admins wake up and face it, and disagree with system how it's now. That's the time, to punish those fucking people who just want to fuck with the system.
I didn't saw any reason to delete this reply, but how it's going nowadays, even a word could be erased. Just, delete it, and I'll post again, warn me, and I'll complain (and insult). Ban me, and you just can't face the truth, handle it or just accept the reactions for your own decisions.
Dead? Say whatever you want I personally don't care at all. I enjoy my game everyday, with lag or less players.
This is where you Polaco are smart and able to convey the message without pointing fingers and blaming people. Besides the last little part I think you know how to properly say things without humor or insults, and able to effectively get your point across.
Edit:Thank you Spectre, fixed it :)
You are the one pointing fingers now Spazz, just saying. Nothing bad about that though.
Quote from: Rahail on January 22, 2014, 23:45
Dead? Say whatever you want I personally don't care at all. I enjoy my game everyday, with lag or less players.
Lag and less players is just a little thing, less players aren't caused by lag, but yes by what is going on, and what I said, but if even about it you don't care, you're just another ignorant like a lot and when things are fine for you, why worry? Your ass is safe, why give a fuck about others? I hate people like this, sorry if you're one of them.
Quote from: Polaco on January 23, 2014, 00:42Quote from: Rahail on January 22, 2014, 23:45
Dead? Say whatever you want I personally don't care at all. I enjoy my game everyday, with lag or less players.
Lag and less players is just a little thing, less players aren't caused by lag, but yes by what is going on, and what I said, but if even about it you don't care, you're just another ignorant like a lot and when things are fine for you, why worry? Your ass is safe, why give a fuck about others? I hate people like this, sorry if you're one of them.
I dont understand what are you saying or trying to, I was referring to this Quote from: Supreme on January 21, 2014, 20:42
And to all you guys saying server is dead but still going in-game from time to time or visiting forum every day (or once a few days), if it's dead then what are you doing here? Just stop this negative bullshit already, stop accusing staff of letting CT die, stop saying they are nazis or dictators, JUST FUCKING STOP. It's not even fun anymore coming on forum and seeing this argue every single fucking day.
About the nazi/dictator part, people have different levels of toleration, some things have more impact for someone than for someone else. If someone fucks up (either staff or player) they can choose to ignore their mistake or just say they're wrong, the latter part unfortunately doesn't happen here anymore. Too bad.
Also these words you just read apply to everyone, not just for staff.
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