Gaming Computer

[Antangin_JRG]

I'm planning to build a computer, i've choose the spec and ask the price to the computer store, and the price is 

I'm looking for a branded PC, and i'm comparing these PC, which one do you think is suitable for gaming, or none of them is suitable for gaming  :
[hide=DELL OptiPlex 390 MT]Platform   Corporate Desktop PC
Processor Type   Intel Core-i3 Processor
Processor Onboard   Intel® Core™ i3-2120 Processor (3.30 GHz, 3M Cache)
Chipset   Intel® H61
Standard Memory   2 GB (1x2GB) DDR3 PC-8500
Max. Memory   8 GB (2 DIMMs)
Video Type   Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 4500
Audio Type   Integrated
Speakers Type   Integrated
Storage Controller   Serial ATA
Floppy Drive   Optional
Hard Drive Type   500GB, Serial ATA 7200RPM
Optical Drive Type   DVD±RW
Modem   Optional
Networking   Gigabit LAN
Network Speed   10 / 100 / 1000 Mbps
Keyboard Type   USB Keyboard
Input Device Type   USB Optical Mouse
Slot Provided   PCIe x16, 3x PCIe x1
Card Reader Provided   Optional
Interface Provided   10x USB 2.0, VGA, HDMI, LAN, Audio
O/S Provided   Microsoft* Windows 7 Professional
Monitor Provided   18.5" LCD
Chassis Form Factor   Mini Tower ATX
Power Supply Type   265w
Chassis Dimension (WHD)   17.5 x 36.0 x 41.7 cm
Chassis Weight   8.87 kg [/hide]

[hide=HP Compaq 8000 Elite]Platform   Corporate Desktop PC
Processor Type   Intel Core2 Quad Processor
Processor Onboard   Intel® Core2 Quad Processor Q8400 (2.66 GHz, FSB 1333, 4MB)
Chipset   Intel® Q45 Express Chipset
Standard Memory   

    2GB DDR3 PC-10600 


Max. Memory   16 GB (4 DIMMs)
Video Type   Intel® Graphic Media Accelerator 4500 256 MB (shared)
Audio Type   Integrated
Speakers Type   Optional
Storage Controller   Integrated
Floppy Drive   Optional
Hard Drive Type   500GB, Serial ATA 7200RPM
Optical Drive Type   DVD±RW
Modem   Optional
Networking   Gigabit LAN

    Intel 82567LM 


Network Speed   10 / 100 / 1000 Mbps
Keyboard Type   HP Standard Keyboard
Input Device Type   USB Optical Mouse
Slot Provided   

    1 low-profile PCI 
    2 low-profile PCI Express x1 
    1 low-profile PCI Express x16 


Card Reader Provided   22 in 1 Media Reader
Interface Provided   

    Reaar : 6 USB 2.0, 1 serial port, 2 PS/2, 1 RJ-45, 1 VGA, audio in/out 
    Front: 4 USB 2.0, audio ports 


O/S Provided   Microsoft* Windows 7 Professional
Monitor Provided   Non Monitor
Chassis Form Factor   Tower ATX
Power Supply Type   240w

    Power Requirements
        Input voltage 90 – 264 / 100 – 240 VAC, 50/60 Hz, 47 – 63 Hz, active PFC (89% High Efficiency)  [/hide]

[hide=EXTRON NetSystem A100 (S343)]   
Platform   Single CPU Tower Server
Processor Type   Multi-core Intel Xeon Processor (Nehalem-based)
#1 Processor Onboard   Intel® Xeon® Processor X3430 (2.40 GHz, No QPI, No HT, Cache 8MB)
#2 Processor Onboard   Not Available
Chipset   Intel® S3420 Server Chipset
Standard Memory   2 GB ECC DDR3-10600 UDIMM 1333 MHz
Max. Memory   8 GB (4 DIMMs)
Video Type   Integrated SE-LLC Graphics 64 MB
Floppy Drive   Optional
#1 Controller   Integrated 6-channel Serial ATA-II/300

    Intel® Matrix Storage Technology (RAID 0, 1, 5, 10 for Microsoft OS) or Intel Embedded RAID Technology 2 (RAID 0, 1, 10 for multiple OS). 
    Chassis accomodates up to three hard drives and additional two in optional tray 
    Standard with silicone grommets to isolate drive vibrations 


#2 Controller   Optional
#1 Hard Drive   500 GB Serial ATA-II/300, 7200 RPM, Cache 8MB, 3.5-inch
#2 Hard Drive   Optional
#3 Hard Drive   Optional
#1 Optical Drive   DVD±RW
#2 Optical Drive   Optional
Standard Bays   Four shock proof fixed bays
External Bays   No Expansion Available
Interface Provided   4x USB 2.0, Serial, VGA, LAN
Slot Provided   2x PCI Express 2.0 x8; 1x PCI Express x4, 1x PCI
Networking   Integrated Two Intel® PRO/1000 EB Server Gigabit Connections
System Fans / Coolers   Embedded Easy Deploy Fan Cooling
Chassis Form Factor   Tower Chassis
Power Supply Type   Extron fixed 400w with PFC

    Active PFC and high efficiency design for superior environmentally friendly operation. 
    80 PLUS® Certification means you'll save money on your power bills. 


Keyboard Type   Extron Stylish Keyboard with USB Hub
Input Device Type   Extron Mystica Optical Mouse
Monitor   Optional
System Management    Integrated BMC with SysManager v3.0
O/S Provided   Pre-sales Request Available
Validated System   Microsoft* Windows Server* 2003/ 2008, Red Hat* Enterprise Linux 5.3, SuSE* Linux Enterprise Server 10 (all supports 32-bit and 64-bit in x86)
Dimensions (W x H x D)   203 mm x 413 mm x 486 mm
Weight   14 kg [/hide]

[hide=IBM System x3100M3-B2X]Platform   Single CPU Tower Server
Processor Type   Intel Xeon Processor
#1 Processor Onboard   

    Intel® Xeon® Processor X3430 (2.40 GHz, Cache 8M) 


Standard Memory   

    2GB ECC DDR3 10600 UDIMM 1333MHz 


Max. Memory   16 GB (4 DIMMs)
Video Type   

    VGA ATI 16MB 


Floppy Drive   Optional
#1 Hard Drive   

    250GB SATA 7,2K rpm SATA 


#1 Optical Drive   DVD-ROM
Interface Provided   USB 2.0, VGA, LAN
Slot Provided   

    3 x PCI-E x16 
    3 x PCI-E x8 
    3 x PCI-E x4 


Networking   Integrated 10/100/1000 Ethernet
System Fans / Coolers   Manageable Cooling Fans
Chassis Form Factor   Tower Chassis
Power Supply Type   350w
Keyboard Type   IBM Keyboard
Input Device Type   IBM Mouse
Monitor   Optional
System Management    

    BMC controller with IPMI 2.0and Serial over LAN 


O/S Provided   Pre-sales Request Available
Dimensions (W x H x D)   8.5" x 17.25" x 21.25"
Weight   33 to 40 pounds (15 to 18kg) [/hide]

I'll attach another video card if one of them is supported 

[Kenny_Power]

Just build a PC it isn't very hard and you will know exactly what is in it I built mine for under 400

[Antangin_JRG]

Just build a PC it isn't very hard and you will know exactly what is in it I built mine for under 400

i know it, but here, in indonesia, the price  and the price of the computer that i post is more affordable  but if its not suitable i'll build a PC, let's wait till another guy reply, i'll compare those replies if there's enough replies 

[Xero]

They're all decent computers, but personally I would go with the IBM and second the Extron considering what upgrades you can put into each later on IMO. Mind you the only problem is, and you may know this already, the powersupply units suck for each so if you're planning on, or have, a decent enough Video card then there's a chance your PS won't be able to power it and that's another cost.

[bazingashane0]

If I really had to choose I would go with the Dell, whats your budget by the way ?

[SuperGoof]

what games do you want to play?

[Dr_dog]

prebuilt packages usually have some bottlenecks inside. for example friend bought a Fujitsu siemens Amilo desktop there was a crappy Nvidia Geforce 9500GS (what the fuck is that GS?) the fan of the card was nearly attached to the PSU bottom so there was like 2cm space between. Also they has usually the funny "If removed warranty void" sticker somewhere so you shouldnt open it untill the years has passed and warranty is expired. Knowing dell desktops they put there cheapest parts and bad PSUs.

I would say get that IBM and change the video card and PSU
also buying more ram to is expensive as its ECC board. that HP and Dell has shittier CPUs on them

[Strato]

HP Compaq

[Geckco]

prebuilt packages usually have some bottlenecks inside. for example friend bought a Fujitsu siemens Amilo desktop there was a crappy Nvidia Geforce 9500GS (what the fuck is that GS?) the fan of the card was nearly attached to the PSU bottom so there was like 2cm space between. Also they has usually the funny "If removed warranty void" sticker somewhere so you shouldnt open it untill the years has passed and warranty is expired. Knowing dell desktops they put there cheapest parts and bad PSUs.

I would say get that IBM and change the video card and PSU
also buying more ram to is expensive as its ECC board. that HP and Dell has shittier CPUs on them

listen to dr hax. hes the one person i would trust

[Dr_dog]

I had replaced over 7 Dell's PSUs from their workstations  as they all had shitty quality caps.

[Antangin_JRG]

prebuilt packages usually have some bottlenecks inside. for example friend bought a Fujitsu siemens Amilo desktop there was a crappy Nvidia Geforce 9500GS (what the fuck is that GS?) the fan of the card was nearly attached to the PSU bottom so there was like 2cm space between. Also they has usually the funny "If removed warranty void" sticker somewhere so you shouldnt open it untill the years has passed and warranty is expired. Knowing dell desktops they put there cheapest parts and bad PSUs.

I would say get that IBM and change the video card and PSU
also buying more ram to is expensive as its ECC board. that HP and Dell has shittier CPUs on them

yea.... IBM is pretty cheap, 2gb of ram is enough.... ECC RAM price is 
do you think i can attach a gtx550ti to it? With a 350 w PSU, btw server PSU price is  too... 

Oooo... ya... i forgot... all those 4 computers are pretty same in price...

[Shock]

I like the dell! 

[Dr_dog]

I tell that Dell customer support sucks ass. I once asked for replace fans  they replied that i should send the whole unit to the service to just replace the 2 damn fans. They just cant send me the 2 fans and i send the 2 malfunctioning fans to them?

Ontopic:
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
That helps me alot to think how big PSU i need. Just fill the slots with components that IBM has and to that video card spot put that gtx550ti

[Antangin_JRG]

I tell that Dell customer support sucks ass. I once asked for replace fans  they replied that i should send the whole unit to the service to just replace the 2 damn fans. They just cant send me the 2 fans and i send the 2 malfunctioning fans to them?

Ontopic:
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
That helps me alot to think how big PSU i need. Just fill the slots with components that IBM has and to that video card spot put that gtx550ti

yea... i've fill the slots, 350 w is on the minimum power, that's without fan, coz IBM dont post how many fan they put there, i allready ask the sales about IBM 43v7477(a 460w server power supply) that can be plugged to IBM x3100 or not...

[bazingashane0]

I tell that Dell customer support sucks ass. I once asked for replace fans  they replied that i should send the whole unit to the service to just replace the 2 damn fans. They just cant send me the 2 fans and i send the 2 malfunctioning fans to them?

Ontopic:
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
That helps me alot to think how big PSU i need. Just fill the slots with components that IBM has and to that video card spot put that gtx550ti

yea... i've fill the slots, 350 w is on the minimum power, that's without fan, coz IBM dont post how many fan they put there, i allready ask the sales about IBM 43v7477(a 460w server power supply) that can be plugged to IBM x3100 or not...

You do understand that your better of assembling your own pc rather then get ass raped by ibm or anyone else trying to sell you upgrades ?