Yes, you read it right. It's not just about convoy s, but about the whole server.
Everyone might have noticed this that there isn't any fun part left in server mainly the combined one (with others).
I haven't created this topic to start uprising or a flame war instead I want people to suggest ways to encourage people to have convoys more often, encourage people to visit server regularly to have a great time.
Please don't say players are leaving/have left, you should notice that everyday new players are joining too!
And there are like 10k players or more playing SA:MP daily. Remember I'm not saying that we need 1k players instead I'm conveying that we need to give players a reason to show up daily like it was.
So I want you guys to give your opinion / suggestion about how we can achieve something like this.
My Suggestions :
1. Have event on daily/weekly or on regular basis.
2. Encourage rookies to have convoy instead of working alone.
You might have noticed that I'm doing weekly convoy on regular basis and I'm trying my best to encourage people to have convoys and it's kinda successful till certain limit but I alone cannot change everything.
I believe with Xero back in business with his club, he'll be helping this movement by hosting events often!
Infact not only Xero, few more people like him for example my close friends (I don't need to list them) are supporting this idea and they're always trying to have big convoy and are helping me when I host one.
One more thing, more players in convoy means more money. So Instead of doing /overload try doing /convoy.
And there's no need to rush in convoys as I've heard the last one to unload gets more money than the others (I don't know if its true or not, if its true then amazing and if not then it's better to let it stay as a myth).
Remainder :- If you find this topic useless/stupid/or anything then there is no need to reply! It'll be much appreciated
Thanks!
Carl :)
FYI the sa-mp webpage counts NPCs too as players. All people seemed to care about back when i was active was earning money the quickest way possible, by working on their own or racing in a convoy to the unload. You should mention also that more people = more money if you haven't already. I personally wouldn't convoy with anyone if they decided to not wait for the rest of the group.
I find this topic stupid btw. Forum seems dead these days, just sandman & tyler replying to ban appeals. Waste of time doing it here.
@Dobby, thanks for reminding me of more people = more money factor, I've added it up.
And I agree with you that earlier most people were trying to rush to unload/load to gain score/money faster, but things are changing, they are getting used to wait and give way to others with the occurrence of big convoys more often, you just need to give it some more time.
As for the forum part, I'm doing this thing IG as well so it could reach more and more people, I'm thinking of putting this up in CT's other social media groups too so it can reach more players and we can get more opinions :)
Quote from: Dobby on April 30, 2015, 17:22
.....Forum seems dead these days, just sandman & tyler replying to ban appeals.
that's all it is nowadays.. GTA V came out, noone has time for CT besides Carl :P :P
Well firstly for everyone on the server, be nice to new players, so they enjoy it here and feel that they are accepted here. Try making friends on the server. It helps to create fun. You can convoy with friends, or you can just mess around with cars. You could try working for a certain amount of money or a certain score. You could even work on achievements, or those of you with them all done, you could set your own personal achievements.
There's so many possibilities that you have to be creative on in this server. You could drive cautiously and just do loads like you're working for a professional company. You can set up events for large convoys, car shows, airshows, or you could even set up a derby in a convoy with set rules on the forum, so there are no complaints. You could role-play with several different people and vehicles (funerals, police escorts of a "president" [this would have to be in a owned cop car as a trucker though], military convoys with the barracks [a truck that does article missions], a cops and robbers type thing [someone gets wanted and a cop or more chases them], etc.)
There are many opportunities people. You just have to get creative.
Not gonna happen, way too many things have happend. Server is as it is now and wont be the same as before.
Quote from: TheGame on April 30, 2015, 21:20
Server is as it is now and wont be the same as before.
Of course not, that is physically impossible. What is being mentioned here is just ideas to regrow the server, not turn back time.
convoys never left it just the fact whether people decide to do them with someone or people they are unfamiliar with or have had problems in the past with, whether single or previously convoyed with..
Convoys Never Left Carl!!!!
@ Emily - Really great suggestions, infact I found them quite amusing and wanna do something like that.
I might spam the events board now with tons of weird and funny events :P
@ TheGame - I remember you said something like this "bring back vehicle trading and I'll play daily" but this never gonna happen, but its quite understandable that there isn't much do at server atm, people are just thinking about how they can make money faster.
Yes, like Emily said said CT can never be what it was and in someway it doesn't need to, we have better players now, better admins/mods, better host, etc.
@ Ethan - There are still players who cant afford or their Pc can't handle GTA V or sone some who still prefer CT over some other game, it's just about how much fun you have in games that you play, more fun = more players joining up even when they have tons of better games to play.
And Im not only mentioning about Convoys Ethan this thing is about the whole server!
Topic isn't about if the convoys left or not it's more about how we can encourage people to have more convoys so we can again have convoys consisting of 40-50+ players.
I hope you understand it now :)
I know this isnt about that but you want more people on to do more convoys to make more money.. Convince Mick to let scripters add mini missions we've all mentioned (and want)... convince Joshy to work on and have mappers help finish sandus expansion, get that working...
more updates = more people interested = more players = more convoys= more money, :tldr: more updates = more money
Quote from: Ethan on May 01, 2015, 04:04
I know this isnt about that but you want more people on to do more convoys to make more money.. Convince Mick to let scripters add mini missions we've all mentioned (and want)... convince Joshy to work on and have mappers help finish sandus expansion, get that working...
more updates = more people interested = more players = more convoys= more money, :tldr: more updates = more money
Tbh, = more money isn't needed, never bothered about money much.
Why only me? We gotta work as a team now If we want to change things like this.
but yet your whole thing here is more bigger convoys.. more money for people to spend on their own vehicles to get bonuses..
Im confused now... you dont want more/bigger convoys? for more money which equals better vehicles?
Quote from: CarlJohnson on April 30, 2015, 17:05
One more thing, more players in convoy means more money. So Instead of doing /overload try doing /convoy.
Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 01, 2015, 04:21
Tbh, = more money isn't needed, never bothered about money much.
Quote from: Ethan on May 01, 2015, 05:50
but yet your whole thing here is more bigger convoys.. more money for people to spend on their own vehicles to get bonuses..
Im confused now... you dont want more/bigger convoys? for more money which equals better vehicles?
Quote from: CarlJohnson on April 30, 2015, 17:05
One more thing, more players in convoy means more money. So Instead of doing /overload try doing /convoy.
Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 01, 2015, 04:21
Tbh, = more money isn't needed (edit: it's needed :P), never bothered about money much.
lol I just realised that your word will encourage people as they want money only.
And that comment was for myself :P
I mainly want big convoys and they should be often not like once in every 1-2 months or weeks. Money part is for the rest of the people who want to earn more with fun as well :D
Sorry for confusing you, I hope you understand it now :)
Quote from: Emily on May 01, 2015, 02:01
Quote from: TheGame on April 30, 2015, 21:20
Server is as it is now and wont be the same as before.
Of course not, that is physically impossible. What is being mentioned here is just ideas to regrow the server, not turn back time.
Back in the old days, with players like Hax, Vado and zacco, the server was a lot more fun. I mean, I talked with those guys quite a lot and with the current generation, I can't. They are way different.
Old days was all about trucking (Real convoys and shares), now it is all about earning as much money as you can, achievements and clubs. In my opinion the server turned into a money grabbing server and no longer the real trucking experience.
Also, games like GTA IV/V, CoD and so on are a lot better; funny missions, better graphics and more opportunities. Since Joshy and some others became more inactive, the server didn't get any great new stuff back (Yeah, vehicle trading.. but it's different than before). We, the mappers, made something great but can't get added. That is also a reason why I don't like playing here anymore (Just a few hours a week). I don't keep spending my spare time in something that doesn't get added anyway. I know life is like that, but I prefer other stuff which are worth it.
I am still here because I really like the community and I've been playing here for years so leaving is no point for me.
That is my view.
Quote from: CarlJohnson on April 30, 2015, 17:05
And there's no need to rush in convoys as I've heard the last one to unload gets more money than the others (I don't know if its true or not, if its true then amazing and if not then it's better to let it stay as a myth).
Its not true.
Quote from: sardarji on May 01, 2015, 10:46
Quote from: CarlJohnson on April 30, 2015, 17:05
And there's no need to rush in convoys as I've heard the last one to unload gets more money than the others (I don't know if its true or not, if its true then amazing and if not then it's better to let it stay as a myth).
Its not true.
Then let it be a myth then, people might not rush believing something like this!
Quote from: Ethan on May 01, 2015, 04:04
I know this isnt about that but you want more people on to do more convoys to make more money.. Convince Mick to let scripters add mini missions we've all mentioned (and want)... convince Joshy to work on and have mappers help finish sandus expansion, get that working...
more updates = more people interested = more players = more convoys= more money, :tldr: more updates = more money
Stop blaming Joshy for this, mappers don't give a shit about it themself.
I posted a lot of times we can fix it but noone of the mappers give a shit.
Ontopic
The problem is not about convoys Carl it is about players that stay staff/scripter/mapper that don't give a fuck about the server.
And this don't give real players a chance for their position.
Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 01, 2015, 10:52
Quote from: sardarji on May 01, 2015, 10:46
Quote from: CarlJohnson on April 30, 2015, 17:05
And there's no need to rush in convoys as I've heard the last one to unload gets more money than the others (I don't know if its true or not, if its true then amazing and if not then it's better to let it stay as a myth).
Its not true.
Then let it be a myth then, people might not rush believing something like this!
People are not that stupid lol.
Quote from: Sjomp on May 01, 2015, 11:06
Quote from: Ethan on May 01, 2015, 04:04
I know this isnt about that but you want more people on to do more convoys to make more money.. Convince Mick to let scripters add mini missions we've all mentioned (and want)... convince Joshy to work on and have mappers help finish sandus expansion, get that working...
more updates = more people interested = more players = more convoys= more money, :tldr: more updates = more money
Stop blaming Joshy for this, mappers don't give a shit about it themself.
I posted a lot of times we can fix it but noone of the mappers give a shit.
Ontopic
The problem is not about convoys Carl it is about players that stay staff/scripter/mapper that don't give a fuck about the server.
And this don't give real players a chance for their position.
I agree with you Sjomp, mappers should try the best they can (no need to argue on this, I already know whats going on and you as well and this topic isn't about this thing).
Sjomp this isn't just about the convoys but about the whole thing, I won't say much about the staff team as everyone know about it. And if everyone has seen current staff's activity activity.
Now I dont think this topic is either useless or stupid as many people feel the same way.
Quote from: sardarji on May 01, 2015, 11:29
Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 01, 2015, 10:52
Quote from: sardarji on May 01, 2015, 10:46
Quote from: CarlJohnson on April 30, 2015, 17:05
And there's no need to rush in convoys as I've heard the last one to unload gets more money than the others (I don't know if its true or not, if its true then amazing and if not then it's better to let it stay as a myth).
Its not true.
Then let it be a myth then, people might not rush believing something like this!
People are not that stupid lol.
Yeah after you cleared it :P
Anyway not everyone is on forum xD
Blame the mappers, ofcourse.... Because of the scripters we can't add the addition we worked ages on. It's not always our fault that stuff doesn't get added.
And this is another reason why I don't like playing here; people blame others for their work.
Quote from: TheGame on May 01, 2015, 12:27
Blame the mappers, ofcourse.... Because of the scripters we can't add the addition we worked ages on. It's not always our fault that stuff doesn't get added.
And this is another reason why I don't like playing here; people blame others for their work.
There's another problem, dysfunction. Others are blaming others, and none of the teams are collaborating.
Quite frankly, if the scripters are needed for a map update or vise versa, then I think there should be a collab board, so everyone can work together.
Im not blaming anyone...
Well, people still do, and it causes dysfunction.
@TheGame - since there's nothing do then why don't mappers organise their board in the meantime which will effectively make things easier for you guys as well as for scripters.
It isnt about blaming, if it was then their would be an loop, people blame you - you blame scripters - they blame someone else, and as I know Sjomp is also a mapper and if hes critising something then try to take it in a positive way and try to work on them.
Anyway blaming wont solve things, we should work as a team or we wont be able to do what we want. :)
Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 01, 2015, 15:26
Anyway blaming wont solve things, we should work as a team or we wont be able to do what we want. :)
Staff
team:
Think of us as a government, although there are many branches, we need all parts to collaborate for effectiveness.
An example of what not to do is the American government. They are ineffective and overpaid. This government and our lifestyle (as a people) is unsustainable (also a Muse song)
My congratulations to Mick and the staff members for destroying this server which used to be not only awesome but the BEST server on SAMP
I just wanted to play on this server for a while again but when i checked how many players are on the server (20/100) then i said "ah fuck it,this server is dead" Back in the day there were 100/100 players at afternoon/night and the server had around 50-60 players most of the times.The only time when the server had around 20 players was only when all EU players slept
Now back to the topic,why should we suggest things when staff members dont give a shit about anything?They care only about punishing people for pathetic things.This server is basically dead and it started to die when Mick gave the controls to some power abuser admins.Basically they own CT,not Mick.For fuck sake even SNAKE left this server,then you can imagine whats going on in CT...
And please stop saying bullshit excuses,we all know the main reasons why the server died but many people are afraid to admit it
Now go and delete this post or warn/ban me,i know you are not friend of the free speech....
RIP CT
Quote from: Kazuma88 on May 01, 2015, 19:00
My congratulations to Mick and the staff members for destroying this server which used to be not only awesome but the BEST server on SAMP
I just wanted to play on this server for a while again but when i checked how many players are on the server (20/100) then i said "ah fuck it,this server is dead" Back in the day there were 100/100 players at afternoon/night and the server had around 50-60 players most of the times.The only time when the server had around 20 players was only when all EU players slept
Now back to the topic,why should we suggest things when staff members dont give a shit about anything?They care only about punishing people for pathetic things.This server is basically dead and it started to die when Mick gave the controls to some power abuser admins.Basically they own CT,not Mick.For fuck sake even SNAKE left this server,then you can imagine whats going on in CT...
And please stop saying bullshit excuses,we all know the main reasons why the server died but many people are afraid to admit it
Now go and delete this post or warn/ban me,i know you are not friend of the free speech....
RIP CT
The game is over 10 years old. SAMP is over 8 years old. The server is over 5 years old. You can only keep people entertained with the same thing for so long and there's only so many things you can add.
Quote from: Kazuma88 on May 01, 2015, 19:00
My congratulations to Mick and the staff members for destroying this server which used to be not only awesome but the BEST server on SAMP
I just wanted to play on this server for a while again but when i checked how many players are on the server (20/100) then i said "ah fuck it,this server is dead" Back in the day there were 100/100 players at afternoon/night and the server had around 50-60 players most of the times.The only time when the server had around 20 players was only when all EU players slept
Now back to the topic,why should we suggest things when staff members dont give a shit about anything?They care only about punishing people for pathetic things.This server is basically dead and it started to die when Mick gave the controls to some power abuser admins.Basically they own CT,not Mick.For fuck sake even SNAKE left this server,then you can imagine whats going on in CT...
And please stop saying bullshit excuses,we all know the main reasons why the server died but many people are afraid to admit it
Now go and delete this post or warn/ban me,i know you are not friend of the free speech....
RIP CT
I'm not removing this at all it's okay to voice your opinion, but once this turns into an insane argument I'm locking this topic.
Snake left because he's an idiot. Sure, he had great score and a nice house, but he was a terrible person. Have a good attitude about the server and understand that people move on and it's an old game. Staff didn't destroy this server, the trolls and hosting issues did. The trolls claimed the staff was ruining their fun and that we were all dictators. It's not true. You can make your own fun. If you can't, then it's time to leave this place, not talk bad about it or say it's dying. I'm sure the people who enjoy their time here will say otherwise.
Also, if you're not having fun, talk to some people. Knowing people online helps with the fun, as you can do more random things with them. If you're upset over the loss of players, then just accept that the community isn't as big as it was anymore.
All in all, just keep with it if you plan to stay and have a positive attitude. It helps the fun factor for yourself and others.
Quote from: Hobo on May 01, 2015, 19:15
The game is over 10 years old. SAMP is over 8 years old. The server is over 5 years old. You can only keep people entertained with the same thing for so long and there's only so many things you can add.
Actually $nake left the server because he was warned for disrespecting Corvette iirc. He got butthurt and rage quit. Hobo's signature pretty much sums up what $nake is like.
Staff likely won't remove your post since you know, its not breaking rules and they aren't as bad as you're clearly making out. They enforce rules set by admins. If you don't like how they do it, i'm sure you're more than welcome to complain @ problems & complaints.
What gives you the impression mick gave control to admins? has it occured to you that mick, being an adult has more important things to do than play/run a game 24/7? He has a job, a life and a home to run. Trust me in saying that games aren't always on the list of things to do. Staff, and mick aren't paid for running the server so they shouldn't HAVE to play it, they should WANT to play it. If they dont WANT to play it, don't act arrogant and try to force them to play the damn server. If staff really didn't give a shit as you say, then they wouldn't be staff. Admins may look inactive in game, but they check the forum often, and im pretty sure that if they thought staff were inactive/abusing/whatever else against staff guidelines then they'd point it out. As they have to me many of times (abusing /wanted and shit for police chases so players could get easy money if they arrested me).
@Mappers You tried reducing the object count on your maps? So you don't overload the streamer? and for fuck sake, get proper version control already. Bitbucket & GIT are the best example here. Loads better than dropbox.
I agree with Hobo. 0.3.7 was just released, and honestly, i don't feel like playing SA:MP that much. There's limits on what we can do. There's also limits on what would be good for the server.
Lower player count doesn't bother me. As long as they follow rules, and don't annoy me/others i'll quite happily settle for a smaller community. People move on. Get over it
Quote from: Kazuma88 on May 01, 2015, 19:00
My congratulations to Mick and the staff members for destroying this server which used to be not only awesome but the BEST server on SAMP
I just wanted to play on this server for a while again but when i checked how many players are on the server (20/100) then i said "ah fuck it,this server is dead" Back in the day there were 100/100 players at afternoon/night and the server had around 50-60 players most of the times.The only time when the server had around 20 players was only when all EU players slept
Now back to the topic,why should we suggest things when staff members dont give a shit about anything?They care only about punishing people for pathetic things.This server is basically dead and it started to die when Mick gave the controls to some power abuser admins.Basically they own CT,not Mick.For fuck sake even SNAKE left this server,then you can imagine whats going on in CT...
And please stop saying bullshit excuses,we all know the main reasons why the server died but many people are afraid to admit it
Now go and delete this post or warn/ban me,i know you are not friend of the free speech....
RIP CT
Some people like u always like to say CT had 100/100 player before / server is dead / old time is good and it never back blablabla... PLS learn to live in the present moment... But if CT left u nothing but angry of course u can keep blame others.
Quote from: Kazuma88 on May 01, 2015, 19:00
My congratulations to Mick and the staff members for destroying this server which used to be not only awesome but the BEST server on SAMP
I just wanted to play on this server for a while again but when i checked how many players are on the server (20/100) then i said "ah fuck it,this server is dead" Back in the day there were 100/100 players at afternoon/night and the server had around 50-60 players most of the times.The only time when the server had around 20 players was only when all EU players slept
Now back to the topic,why should we suggest things when staff members dont give a shit about anything?They care only about punishing people for pathetic things.This server is basically dead and it started to die when Mick gave the controls to some power abuser admins.Basically they own CT,not Mick.For fuck sake even SNAKE left this server,then you can imagine whats going on in CT...
And please stop saying bullshit excuses,we all know the main reasons why the server died but many people are afraid to admit it
Now go and delete this post or warn/ban me,i know you are not friend of the free speech....
RIP CT
Firstly, The server isn't being destroyed, mick is working hard in improving gamemod,website,etc.
I don't know much about what happened in past before I arrived here, but from what I've read it might be true that "few staff" had issues with players but they still played with each other didn't they ? Anyway this ain't happening anymore. I don't see Report / Complaint being handled without providing proper proof.
And server now needs something new to gain players again, I don't know if it's an achievement, new feature, mini missions or what so ever.
Like hydra stated, people just find it easier to say server died instead of helping it revive / improve.
They just don't wanna give it another shot to see if it can still make them feel happy!
sa mp is dying, no need to blame this server
Quote from: Terrorista310 on May 15, 2015, 09:24
sa mp is dying, no need to blame this server
This is correct.
The age of everything is killing it all.
I think that big refreshment would be to make new server with some changes...that would attract new players and be new challenge to old players..
Quote from: lerdi on May 15, 2015, 18:31
I think that big refreshment would be to make new server with some changes...that would attract new players and be new challenge to old players..
Try finding someone who is skilled enough to work on the gamemode and has enough motivation to actually go ahead and work on it.
Answer is: there isn't anyone. There
used to be people motivated enough to script, like me, but honestly I don't see any point anymore.
Quote from: Joshy on May 15, 2015, 19:35
Quote from: lerdi on May 15, 2015, 18:31
I think that big refreshment would be to make new server with some changes...that would attract new players and be new challenge to old players..
Try finding someone who is skilled enough to work on the gamemode and has enough motivation to actually go ahead and work on it.
Answer is: there isn't anyone. There used to be people motivated enough to script, like me, but honestly I don't see any point anymore.
then R.I.P Convoy Trucking
Samp isnt going to survive for long and so is the server. Harsh or whatever you call it but this is the reality..Everything comes to an End.
Quote from: sardarji on May 15, 2015, 19:49
Samp isnt going to survive for long and so is the server. Harsh or whatever you call it but this is the reality..Everything comes to an End.
Aye, this is true lads.
Quote from: sardarji on May 15, 2015, 19:49
Samp isnt going to survive for long and so is the server. Harsh or whatever you call it but this is the reality..Everything comes to an End.
No more to add.
Ah, the sad truth. Well I plan to look back on the last months/years of CT fondly. I've always enjoyed playing just to truck, and I still do. Even though the server is not what it used to be, the community is still here. Instead of complaining about how it is, we should just enjoy what it is at the moment.
Today there were 33 players on and I was part of a large cement truck convoy, it was awesome and that's not something that has happened in a while. I think there is still a lot of life left in this server!
Go on, see for yourself :D
Quote from: Terrorista310 on May 15, 2015, 09:24
sa mp is dying, no need to blame this server
0.o you sure? If yes, then why I do I see around 15k players playing at non peak time (Us) and 35k+ players at peak time (European)?
Quote from: sardarji on May 15, 2015, 19:49
Samp isnt going to survive for long and so is the server. Harsh or whatever you call it but this is the reality..Everything comes to an End.
Ofcourse something that has begun has to end someday but that day isn't near yet.
I think mick needs to advertise the server or put it up on Hosted list if he wants to increase the playerbase and I'll always welcome new people because they're the ones who's gonna form the community when you,me and everyone else will be not around.
Actually, "The graphics doesn't matter, the community and gameplay/gamemode does" (atleast for me).
Quote from: lerdi on May 15, 2015, 18:31
I think that big refreshment would be to make new server with some changes...that would attract new players and be new challenge to old players..
True, even if it brings achievements hunter back, the server will be alive again and they'll stick around more if they find it fun to play it here once again.
Quote from: Joshy on May 15, 2015, 19:35
Quote from: lerdi on May 15, 2015, 18:31
I think that big refreshment would be to make new server with some changes...that would attract new players and be new challenge to old players..
Try finding someone who is skilled enough to work on the gamemode and has enough motivation to actually go ahead and work on it.
Answer is: there isn't anyone. There used to be people motivated enough to script, like me, but honestly I don't see any point anymore.
We eventually might if server gains players again.
And you're kinda irreplaceable, but we got Dobby, Tyler and Matt too and giving CT a one more chance/shot isnt going to hurt anyone is it? For the sake of the good/amazing/funny time you had here.
Beside this, you guys should hire staff which are actually interested in server and give a darn about it. I think you'll find plenty of them and even the ones that deserves it.
As for the current staff, dont get me wrong or find me rude but if dont feel like playing then wth are you still staff? Just resign and give others a chance?
You're expected to be the role models for normal players but if you say negative things around even though its truth then you shouldn't be a staff in the first place, you should be loyal enough and once again dont get me wrong!
Quote from: Willie_Nelson on May 16, 2015, 03:04
Ah, the sad truth. Well I plan to look back on the last months/years of CT fondly. I've always enjoyed playing just to truck, and I still do. Even though the server is not what it used to be, the community is still here. Instead of complaining about how it is, we should just enjoy what it is at the moment.
Today there were 33 players on and I was part of a large cement truck convoy, it was awesome and that's not something that has happened in a while. I think there is still a lot of life left in this server!
Go on, see for yourself :D
I agree with most parts you've said, even I leaded a convoy consisting of 34 players which haven't taken place in years, is that dying? And in the events they're always more than 15 players joining everyday, infact some players just come to server only because of events
:)
Things we need to work on:
Gamemode development.
Advertising (maybe?)
Staff (@admins you should atleast pay attention to the activities if you cant go I)
More events (Mostly based on fun factor)
Etc!
Sorry if I sound bit rude but I only the truth or the facts I've noticed.
And for the ones who say server is dying who are still in 2013 era when they said the same :- Try to spend more time at server and then speak, frankly speaking I don't expect someone with 1-2 hours spent IG in last 7 days to know what is going on inside.
And you guys should try to be a bit optimistic and if you only got negative things to say then better keep it yourself as we already know whats going on and we dont need to reminded.
And if you say you're telling the truth then try to convince it in a bit positive manner :)
Sorry again If I offended someone or sounded rude
I forgot to add/point this earlier.
@Scripters, basically Joshy, something on the Sandus expansion map? I think there are some temporary solutions to solve the problem of opcodes and add the map again. I believe everyone might have seen how much excitement was there for the new map wasnt it? These thing will bring back server to what it used to be! You just gotta put some trust and hope in it.
And
@Mappers: From what I've seen from your earlier posts, you can't add/map since you believe they won't be added (atleast for now) then why don't you organize your board making it easier for scripters and fix the bugs that are pending, I think there are few reported ones and you can pm me so I can tell you about the non reported ones. :)
~Carl
P.S - Ignore the grammatical mistakes :P using my phone and I actually typed that much!
:)
Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 16, 2015, 04:13
Quote from: Joshy on May 15, 2015, 19:35
Quote from: lerdi on May 15, 2015, 18:31
I think that big refreshment would be to make new server with some changes...that would attract new players and be new challenge to old players..
Try finding someone who is skilled enough to work on the gamemode and has enough motivation to actually go ahead and work on it.
Answer is: there isn't anyone. There used to be people motivated enough to script, like me, but honestly I don't see any point anymore.
1) We eventually might if server gains players again.
2) And you're kinda irreplaceable, but we got Dobby, Tyler and Matt too and (3) giving CT a one more chance/shot isnt going to hurt anyone is it? For the sake of the good/amazing/funny time you had here.
4) Beside this, you guys should hire staff which are actually interested in server and give a darn about it. I think you'll find plenty of them and even the ones that deserves it.
5) As for the current staff, dont get me wrong or find me rude but if dont feel like playing then wth are you still staff? Just resign and give others a chance?
6) You're expected to be the role models for normal players but if you say negative things around even though its truth then you shouldn't be a staff in the first place, you should be loyal enough and once again dont get me wrong!
7) @Scripters, basically Joshy, something on the Sandus expansion map? I think there are some temporary solutions to solve the problem of opcodes and add the map again. I believe everyone might have seen how much excitement was there for the new map wasnt it? These thing will bring back server to what it used to be! You just gotta put some trust and hope in it.
1) I highly doubt that you will find trustworthy-enough players who can script well for a gamemode of this size.
2) Dobby, Tyler and Matt don't script anything these days (at least in player-facing changes). And I don't think any of them will be willing to take on big ideas either.
3) Forcing myself to work on something that I don't actually want to work on leads to me being bored.
4) Being an inactive admin as I am, I don't keep up with applications anymore.
5) Don't worry my resignations will be coming soon.
6) Being a staff member does not mean we have to hide the 'truth' in order to remain loyal to the server.
7) Idk.
Quote from: Joshy on May 16, 2015, 05:52
Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 16, 2015, 04:13
Quote from: Joshy on May 15, 2015, 19:35
Quote from: lerdi on May 15, 2015, 18:31
I think that big refreshment would be to make new server with some changes...that would attract new players and be new challenge to old players..
Try finding someone who is skilled enough to work on the gamemode and has enough motivation to actually go ahead and work on it.
Answer is: there isn't anyone. There used to be people motivated enough to script, like me, but honestly I don't see any point anymore.
1) We eventually might if server gains players again.
2) And you're kinda irreplaceable, but we got Dobby, Tyler and Matt too and (3) giving CT a one more chance/shot isnt going to hurt anyone is it? For the sake of the good/amazing/funny time you had here.
4) Beside this, you guys should hire staff which are actually interested in server and give a darn about it. I think you'll find plenty of them and even the ones that deserves it.
5) As for the current staff, dont get me wrong or find me rude but if dont feel like playing then wth are you still staff? Just resign and give others a chance?
6) You're expected to be the role models for normal players but if you say negative things around even though its truth then you shouldn't be a staff in the first place, you should be loyal enough and once again dont get me wrong!
7) @Scripters, basically Joshy, something on the Sandus expansion map? I think there are some temporary solutions to solve the problem of opcodes and add the map again. I believe everyone might have seen how much excitement was there for the new map wasnt it? These thing will bring back server to what it used to be! You just gotta put some trust and hope in it.
1) I highly doubt that you will find trustworthy-enough players who can script well for a gamemode of this size.
2) Dobby, Tyler and Matt don't script anything these days (at least in player-facing changes). And I don't think any of them will be willing to take on big ideas either.
3) Forcing myself to work on something that I don't actually want to work on leads to me being bored.
4) Being an inactive admin as I am, I don't keep up with applications anymore.
5) Don't worry my resignations will be coming soon.
6) Being a staff member does not mean we have to hide the 'truth' in order to remain loyal to the server.
7) Idk.
1. We did found you didnt we? Then we 'might' be able to find someone like you but yes, there won't be you (Joshy) anymore.
I'd like to script for CT if I ever got chance, I'll try to learn Pawn after I finish it off with website.
2. I believe Dobby is working on a new feature and I don't expect Matt or Tyler to work on scripts anytime soon either because of exams.
3. We already talked about it! It's your call and I can't force you stay or leave. Its totally your decision.
4. Actually Staff clearing is also needed, as there are many players inactive and still belong to the staff team. I wont list out names as everyone and they themselves know who I'm talking about. And I'd like to see some new faces in staff team other than the old ones. I hope everyone knows what I'm talking about and once again don't get me wrong!
5. Nothing much to say, refer to point 3.
6. Ofcourse you don't but from what I've learned Opinions of players are greatly influenced by their role models and in this case the role models are Admins.
If the staff is so negative you shouldn't expect community to be positive!
7. What if we try lowering the stream distance which will reduce the object count being streamed in (maybe?) Or maybe the solution you came up with earlier?
Yes, i've been working on a thing to do with the new *Actor() functions. There's a topic regarding it at the suggestions (The securicar robbing = bannable thing). Being the only scripter doesn't bother me that much anyway.
TY CJ, you put some faith in me coming back and while it's been slow going I'm pushing forward with making this club my own creation and being an independent entity while bringing clubs together, but that's not to say I'm not going to need some help along the way. I am back and "Server dying" talk hasn't dissuaded me, only challenged me more.
There's lots of the server dying talk around here, more than enough, we all get it. Mick has kept this server going for something, I don't think it's for the money but there's still something that keeps him from shutting down this place, and it's not the pessimists.
SAMP isn't dead, not yet at least, but the main focus is still on RP servers. CT is not a RP and I would never want it to become that, but that doesn't mean it has to be limited either. SAMP is still evolving as well, what also needs to be done is to take advantage of it's newest features. Mappers/Scripters need to find a reason to stay or just move on as well.
I've never had problems with many, if any, mods or admins on this server because of one simple direction, which has been always been "follow the rules". It's not to say that I've never crossed the lines, I have, but I've always tried to step back and say ok, was it really fun for everyone or just me?
I am back, with a hectic work schedule though I'll find time. You're either here to contribute, or you're here to counteract. It's been a while since I've been playing and some of the older players have an arrogance or dissatisfaction I've never expected to see in them, gollums I call them.
Whatever the case may be, change will always happen, you work with it or you can move on, it doesn't have to be complicated. I will work with new players because who knows what they'll bring to the table.
Cheers everyone, and CJ get that comp started, I was hoping for that 30 player convoy weekend again!
Quote from: Xero on May 17, 2015, 04:16
Mappers/Scripters need to find a reason to stay or just move on as well.
if scripters were motivated to script, mappers might be motivated to map as well... mappers need scripters to help put the map in game, as in, make the load points, add shops/gas stations, parking etc..etc.. We all did Sandus Expansion but Joshy doesnt want to help us.
Quote from: Ethan on May 17, 2015, 14:49
Quote from: Xero on May 17, 2015, 04:16
Mappers/Scripters need to find a reason to stay or just move on as well.
if scripters were motivated to script, mappers might be motivated to map as well... mappers need scripters to help put the map in game, as in, make the load points, add shops/gas stations, parking etc..etc.. We all did Sandus Expansion but Joshy doesnt want to help us.
Well he's not a scripter so...
Quote from: Ethan on May 17, 2015, 14:49
Quote from: Xero on May 17, 2015, 04:16
Mappers/Scripters need to find a reason to stay or just move on as well.
if scripters were motivated to script, mappers might be motivated to map as well... mappers need scripters to help put the map in game, as in, make the load points, add shops/gas stations, parking etc..etc.. We all did Sandus Expansion but Joshy doesnt want to help us.
Joshy did something for that but you guys pushed the map before he could even finish which ofcourse killed his mood and made him angry. We did thought of few temporary as well as permanent solutions, but since Joshy doesn't script anymore, I shall talk to other scripters when they get time.
And like I earlier said for the time being you guys should organise your board and fix the bugs which are pending. You can PM me after you finish the existing bugs so I can inform you about the non-reported ones :)
Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 17, 2015, 15:04
Joshy did something for that but you guys pushed the map before he could even finish
you have no clue what happened, plus Benny was the sole person to "push" the update to josh, but instead went behind his back to SandMan because Josh wouldnt upload it.
Thought this was made to have more convoys online .. not to blame scripters or mappers :D but is fun reading (i dont read that 1.2.3.4.5.6.7 things)
Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 17, 2015, 15:04
Quote from: Ethan on May 17, 2015, 14:49
Quote from: Xero on May 17, 2015, 04:16
Mappers/Scripters need to find a reason to stay or just move on as well.
if scripters were motivated to script, mappers might be motivated to map as well... mappers need scripters to help put the map in game, as in, make the load points, add shops/gas stations, parking etc..etc.. We all did Sandus Expansion but Joshy doesnt want to help us.
Joshy did something for that but you guys pushed the map before he could even finish which ofcourse killed his mood and made him angry. We did thought of few temporary as well as permanent solutions, but since Joshy doesn't script anymore, I shall talk to other scripters when they get time.
And like I earlier said for the time being you guys should organise your board and fix the bugs which are pending. You can PM me after you finish the existing bugs so I can inform you about the non-reported ones :)
Let it go, you're trying too much.
Quote from: Joshy on May 15, 2015, 19:35
Quote from: lerdi on May 15, 2015, 18:31
I think that big refreshment would be to make new server with some changes...that would attract new players and be new challenge to old players..
Try finding someone who is skilled enough to work on the gamemode and has enough motivation to actually go ahead and work on it.
Answer is: there isn't anyone. There used to be people motivated enough to script, like me, but honestly I don't see any point anymore.
^this^
it was about bigger convoys or at least trying to bring them back but if noone is motivated enough or has enough time, nothing will happen
Quote from: Ethan on May 17, 2015, 17:44
Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 17, 2015, 15:04
Joshy did something for that but you guys pushed the map before he could even finish
you have no clue what happened, plus Benny was the sole person to "push" the update to josh, but instead went behind his back to SandMan because Josh wouldnt upload it.
I definitely know what happened, anyway instead of blaming each other and arguing on what occurred in past, we should work as team and support each other making the environment a less tensed.
Quote from: AMG on May 17, 2015, 17:52
Thought this was made to have more convoys online .. not to blame scripters or mappers :D but is fun reading (i dont read that 1.2.3.4.5.6.7 things)
You're wrong, if you've read the previous posts then you should see that this isn't only about Convoys but about the whole Server!
Quote from: Sorin on May 17, 2015, 17:54
Quote from: CarlJohnson on May 17, 2015, 15:04
Quote from: Ethan on May 17, 2015, 14:49
Quote from: Xero on May 17, 2015, 04:16
Mappers/Scripters need to find a reason to stay or just move on as well.
if scripters were motivated to script, mappers might be motivated to map as well... mappers need scripters to help put the map in game, as in, make the load points, add shops/gas stations, parking etc..etc.. We all did Sandus Expansion but Joshy doesnt want to help us.
Joshy did something for that but you guys pushed the map before he could even finish which ofcourse killed his mood and made him angry. We did thought of few temporary as well as permanent solutions, but since Joshy doesn't script anymore, I shall talk to other scripters when they get time.
And like I earlier said for the time being you guys should organise your board and fix the bugs which are pending. You can PM me after you finish the existing bugs so I can inform you about the non-reported ones :)
Let it go, you're trying too much.
It doesn't harm anyone does it?
Quote from: Ethan on May 17, 2015, 17:55
Quote from: Joshy on May 15, 2015, 19:35
Quote from: lerdi on May 15, 2015, 18:31
I think that big refreshment would be to make new server with some changes...that would attract new players and be new challenge to old players..
Try finding someone who is skilled enough to work on the gamemode and has enough motivation to actually go ahead and work on it.
Answer is: there isn't anyone. There used to be people motivated enough to script, like me, but honestly I don't see any point anymore.
^this^
it was about bigger convoys or at least trying to bring them back but if noone is motivated enough or has enough time, nothing will happen
Same thing I said to AMG, its not only about Convoys, We'll get people motivated again!!
Just have a little faith
i didnt read all from my last comment only some things but if we want to do something i think we need to start right now..collect few peoples who know how to set things and who want to do that..I am first who will help in something new but my problem is that i dont know anything about scripting,moding etc.. but for sure i would help with things i know how to do...and i think this is the last hope of salvation before server dies..if you collect few peoples who know to script and other needed things contact me i will help with ideas and other stuff i can help with...
This sounds interesting but I don't fond people for convoys :c :like:
Quote from: lerdi on May 19, 2015, 11:43
i didnt read all from my last comment only some things but if we want to do something i think we need to start right now..collect few peoples who know how to set things and who want to do that..I am first who will help in something new but my problem is that i dont know anything about scripting,moding etc.. but for sure i would help with things i know how to do...and i think this is the last hope of salvation before server dies..if you collect few peoples who know to script and other needed things contact me i will help with ideas and other stuff i can help with...
We don't need people who can script and map, instead we need people who can make server a fun place.
Currently server/community gives more priority to money than to fun, but things are changing, I've seen people getting more interested in convoy rather than working alone.
A little support is what they all need !
Quote from: PewDiePie on May 26, 2015, 21:44
This sounds interesting but I don't fond people for convoys :c :like:
You may find some people fond of convoys while some aren't.
Lately I have seen that there is a convoy of about 5-6 players pretty much every day and they last some hours :)
Other thing about convoys is, that people sometimes just join them for bonus money and then they race instead of driving together and waiting for each other.
My idea of an ideal convoy is that all of them drive together, help each other and do some fun stuff(off-roading, some drifting maybe when waiting for others, alcatraz tours...).