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Title: Building a pc
Post by: Joshly98 on July 14, 2012, 18:57
hey, I am going to look at building my own pc, made specifically for gaming. I was wondering, if anyone has any tips/advice, websites etc.... you could post here?

Thanks in advance :D
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Matias on July 15, 2012, 00:00
A computer isnt something we can help you, we can suggest you stuff but maybe if the game you want doesnt work you should not get mad at us :P
I like ATI Radeon HD 6850 or ATI Radeon HD 6870 as videocard, AMD Phenom li x6 as processor and maybe 4gb or 8gb as ram but its all up to you what you want to buy :)

This is a gameplay of Battlefield 3 with that videocard and processor i told you :)

Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Joshly98 on July 15, 2012, 00:43
Quote from: Beelzeboss on July 15, 2012, 00:00
A computer isnt something we can help you, we can suggest you stuff but maybe if the game you want doesnt work you should not get mad at us :P
I like ATI Radeon HD 6850 or ATI Radeon HD 6870 as videocard, AMD Phenom li x6 as processor and maybe 4gb or 8gb as ram but its all up to you what you want to buy :)

This is a gameplay of Battlefield 3 with that videocard and processor i told you :)


Thanks for the help. Today I will start planning the parts to buy and where I can get them cheapest :P
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: droctogonapus on July 15, 2012, 00:44
I'd suggest at least 8 GB of ram for a gaming computer
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: TheSandman on July 15, 2012, 04:08
RAM is bulk cheap these days anyway, so its worth buying as much as your motherboard wants to eat.
2 600, or 7000 series graphics cards are good too, as most games, (Not GTA), support CrossFire/SLI.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Kenny_Power on July 15, 2012, 04:12
I'm running an AMD Phenom X6 1055t on an Asus M5A97 PRO 970 so I can always upgrade to the AM3+ chip like the bulldozers If I like it's a pretty good set up and relatively cheap too. As Sandman says Ram is cheap as hell too I can use 32gb of it lol But I think 8gb is plenty only cost me £40 for mine
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Viper on July 15, 2012, 04:37
get intel it better then amd
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: droctogonapus on July 15, 2012, 05:01
Quote from: AlfStewart[AUS] on July 15, 2012, 04:37
get intel it better then amd

but they tend to be locked
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Viper on July 15, 2012, 05:28
Quote from: droctogonapus on July 15, 2012, 05:01
Quote from: AlfStewart[AUS] on July 15, 2012, 04:37
get intel it better then amd

but they tend to be locked

mine isnt i can over clock mine
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Twizeler on July 15, 2012, 07:47
processor : intel core i7 2600K ( buy the K version so you can overclock him :) )
videocard : nividia geforce gtx 550 ti
ram           : 6 - 8 GB
harddisk    : 1 TB ( 1000 GB)

thats what i would do :)


Try        http://www.alternate.com/
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Mr.Kangaroo on July 15, 2012, 08:06
Quote from: SandieeRAM is bulk cheap these days anyway, so its worth buying as much as your motherboard wants to eat.
Madman....
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dr_dog on July 15, 2012, 08:22
It all depends on your budget, is it $1000 or less is it $1500 or more. Probably i7, Radeon 6870 or 6970. I think its useless to pay $600 for a graphic card that cost $300 next year. I tend to buy bit older hardware so its not so pricey. 8 GB of ram is required for gaming, 4 GB is not enough. Think about case too, it should be big enough for future upgrades too. Same with power supply, it should be also powerful enough for future upgrades.
For example i bought a 1000W power supply just for the upgradeability for next few years. Oh BTW, WD greens sucks ass. and never ever defrag your SSD.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Razer. on July 15, 2012, 08:36
Like I said look at some parts at www.msy.com.au they are pretty cheap in australia. but then again if you can make it to one of there shops try looking online sometimes it might be cheap to import parts.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Twizeler on July 15, 2012, 08:37
Quote from: Twizeler on July 15, 2012, 07:47
processor : intel core i7 2600K ( buy the K version so you can overclock him :) )
videocard : nividia geforce gtx 550 ti
ram           : 6 - 8 GB
harddisk    : 1 TB ( 1000 GB)

thats what i would do :)


Try        http://www.alternate.com/ (http://www.alternate.com/)

+ you can check videocards here http://www.hwcompare.com
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dan_Nobleman on July 16, 2012, 23:48
Contact me with your exact expectations and main uses, and I can piece together a build that meets your needs without going over budget.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: mrtrlt on July 17, 2012, 02:26
Easy way:

http://www.nirv.com.au/
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Mr.Kangaroo on July 17, 2012, 02:37
i dont think he wants to pay 2k for a PC :/
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dan_Nobleman on July 17, 2012, 03:41
Here you go.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af150/The_FalconO6/CurrentLogicalPCBuyingGuide/Guide.png)
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Ethan on July 17, 2012, 04:10
OMG Dan, Im ordering my next PC from you and only you, I hope youll give me a discount on shipping....  :pokerface:
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: mrtrlt on July 17, 2012, 14:03
With that website that i posted. I managed to get this. Look at the price and specs

(http://www.imgur.com/S7BLL.png)
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: TheSandman on July 17, 2012, 14:06
AMD CPU  :fuckthat:
The 7870 kicks ass, i have it. Same model too.
But you could build your own like that for less than $1000, so its cheaper to build yourself, and it gives you life long experience if you want to be in the IT industry.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: mrtrlt on July 17, 2012, 14:08
Quote from: TheSandman on July 17, 2012, 14:06
AMD CPU  :fuckthat:
The 7870 kicks ass, i have it. Same model too.
But you could build your own like that for less than $1000, so its cheaper to build yourself, and it gives you life long experience if you want to be in the IT industry.

yeah i guess. That website also does overclocking that apparently increases power by 40%. But again it costs around 150 for that.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 17, 2012, 15:07
I wanted to build my own too but, i don't know with what i have to start: buying some shit and cheap computer as support and then buying the pieces to upgrade it ?
Or .... ?
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Matias on July 17, 2012, 15:14
Quote from: Vinny on July 17, 2012, 15:07
I wanted to build my own too but, i don't know with what i have to start: buying some shit and cheap computer as support and then buying the pieces to upgrade it ?
Or .... ?

Its better if you build it from scratch, buying some cheap computer and upgrade it also works but if you build your own its much better :P
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 17, 2012, 15:27
So lets say i take a piece of carton and i build a pc ? (lol)
What should i take as support ?
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Matias on July 17, 2012, 15:35
First you should get a good motherboard that supports last hardware i.e. ddr3 ram, bulldozer processor slot, pci express, usb 3.0 blahblah
Then you get a processor that supports your motherboard processor slot, then you get the ram, videocard, powersupply, and the computer case :P
then you build it taking care, install windows and finally you can start it xD

Here you have some motherboards you should look :P
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4A88TV_EVOUSB3/ (http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4A88TV_EVOUSB3/)
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3Plus/M5A88V_EVO/ (http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3Plus/M5A88V_EVO/)
That ones uses AMD processors. The first one i sended you uses AM3 slot and the 2° one uses AM3+ processor (bulldozer processors)
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 17, 2012, 15:41
I was just asking ON WHAT do i have to build it xD
You wrote a computer box ?
I know which parts i have to buy :p
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Matias on July 17, 2012, 15:59
Quote from: Vinny on July 17, 2012, 15:41
I was just asking ON WHAT do i have to build it xD
You wrote a computer box ?
I know which parts i have to buy :p

:| you kidding me?
You can build a pc anywhere -.-
It should be a place without static around, search tutorials at internet, its not so hard, just take care
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 17, 2012, 16:08
Im not "at home" right now so i cannot do much more than searching the parts. But thanks for your help :)
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Terror310 on July 17, 2012, 17:06
In Portugal that store i know to buy like that is this: www.chiptec.net (http://www.chiptec.net)

Try it..
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: TheSandman on July 17, 2012, 17:09
PLE Computers (http://www.ple.com.au) I use for buying parts, not systems though. I might be getting a job there in some months, the manager that works there gave me a discount on my 7870, and said I knew alot about PC's, so he could hook me up. ;)
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 17, 2012, 17:25
What about this ?
www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=608567&CategoryID=629
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Terror310 on July 17, 2012, 17:38
Quote from: Vinny on July 17, 2012, 17:25
What about this ?
www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=608567&CategoryID=629 (http://www.ple.com.au/ViewItem.aspx?InventoryItemID=608567&CategoryID=629)

micro atx   :fuckthat:
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 17, 2012, 17:50
I seriously don't know anything about motherboards, videocards and processors xD
But i can learn extremely fast.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: DJ_Smashon on July 17, 2012, 18:41
I recommend 7000 series AMD cards. Don't buy 6000 They're soon getting old. :P
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: droctogonapus on July 17, 2012, 19:43
heres a good motherboard unless you want an intel cpu


http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131767 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131767)
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 17, 2012, 22:41
I was looking for a hdd. This thing attracted my attention:
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148782

Because its written:
Parts: 90 days limited
Labor: 90 days limited

Does it mean that the hdd will stop working after 90 days ?
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dr_dog on July 17, 2012, 22:42
Who knows about seagate. Their drives are bad anyways
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 17, 2012, 22:53
Im just asking :P
Im not planing to buy some shit parts.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Rockey on July 17, 2012, 23:18
What i use- NZXT Phantom full tower case
- 8GB ram
- AMD Hex core
- AMD 6850 2GB model
-150GB HDD For keeping photos, movies and music on
-2TB HDD
-Asus somthing motherboard xD
Total build price of around £750

I would recommend to you
-You need a full tower case 100% if you dont and want to upgrade in the future you will need to buy a new case which will cause complications, also it will avoid problems with for example your graphics card not fitting into the case.
-Pick brands wisely, I went with AMD CPU's because they are cheap, This isnt a good thing though as they are not as good as Intel, but for a intel 6core would have been alot more money and way out of my budget. So for budget get an amd 4,6, or possibly even an 8 core if you have the moeny.
-DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT get a cheap power supply, this is the biggest mistake you can make as if you think a £20 750watt power supplie will run a gaming pc, it wont.. it will simply fail and possibly cause damage to you pc. I recommend spending anywhere from £80-£100 on a power supply.
-Get enough storage, if you feel you only need 500GB get 500GB but look on your current pc and see how much you use.. i was filling my old pc which is why i brought so much storage to make sure it doesnt happen again.
-If you have the money buy an SSD.. A solid state drive, this will dramaticly increase to boot time on your pc, if you get a 120GB SSD you will easy fit windows 7 ( i assume this is what you will use ) and a few games onto the drive, this will make your time on your pc more productive.
-Get a watercooling kit if your going to overclock and be careful when installing any damage to the pipes will cause HUGE problems inside your pc.
-Get a motherboard that can handel two graphics cards, you will need two 16x ports, when two cards are installed they run at 8x and 8x but having two older cards, for example in a year or so's time depending on game development a 6850 may not be up to standard, so you just put in a second one and crossfire them then you are upto date.
-And my final tip, dont do what i did when i built my pc and put the cpu in the wrong way.. i was very lucky not to damage mine and refit it.. but you may not be so lucky and this could cost alot of money if you damage your cpu

Im a little nerd for 15... i know  O0

-Rockey
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dan_Nobleman on July 17, 2012, 23:51
^^^ I am also 15, but I know more.

My build, of course:
Case: Corsair 800D
CPU: Intel i7-3960x 6core (12 threaded) OCed to 4.8 GHz
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage Extreme IV
GPU: 3x ASUS  3GB 1GHz Reference 7970s (Replaced with custom watercooling blocks)
SSD: 4x Corsair ForceGT 240GB In RAID 0
HDD: 2x Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB in RAID 0

Time to correct

1. Full tower cases are nice, and can be used throughout a few builds, I personally recommend only getting full towers because of how much room you have.
2.  AMD CPUs are not recommended for actual gaming PC builds, since they just create horrible bottlenecks. If you're only going to play SAMP, go for it.
3. Cheap power supplies have horrible capacitors and voltage regulators, now you should always look for respected brands, because they have a lesser chance of providing dirty electricity.
4. More storage is always better, Don't just settle for a 200 gb POS HDD, get a high density Caviar Black 1 TB HDD. They perform great, have wonderful reliability, and has Western Digital's reputation backing it.
5. Caring about boot-time is just stupid. Sure, SSDs can be wonderful for bootdrives, and for gaming, but if you overuse it, say, using it as a gigantic page file, you're wasting your money, it'll just burn a hole in your pocket.
6. Don't get a watercooling kit, they don't exactly perform any better than some air coolers, If you want to do watercooling, make a custom loop, it might cost more, but it actually is worth it. Look into getting a Hyper 212 EVO or something.
7. Almost any motherboard can handle two graphics cards, but look specifically for ones that say "SLI Supported" or "CrossfireX Supported", or else you really can't run SLI or Crossfire. Also, there are (Intel) motherboards that can support running x16 x16 x8 configurations, but the difference between x8 and x16 is not noticeable.
8. There are markings on the CPU itself, and on the motherboard, examine it carefully, if you put it in wrong, you basically broke it.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 18, 2012, 00:02
Dan, how much you paid for it ?
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Rockey on July 18, 2012, 00:04
Quote from: Dan_Nobleman on July 17, 2012, 23:51
^^^ I am also 15, but I know more.

My build, of course:
Case: Corsair 800D
CPU: Intel i7-3960x 6core (12 threaded) OCed to 4.8 GHz
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage Extreme IV
GPU: 3x ASUS  3GB 1GHz Reference 7970s (Replaced with custom watercooling blocks)
SSD: 4x Corsair ForceGT 240GB In RAID 0
HDD: 2x Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB in RAID 0

Time to correct

1. Full tower cases are nice, and can be used throughout a few builds, I personally recommend only getting full towers because of how much room you have.
2.  AMD CPUs are not recommended for actual gaming PC builds, since they just create horrible bottlenecks. If you're only going to play SAMP, go for it.
3. Cheap power supplies have horrible capacitors and voltage regulators, now you should always look for respected brands, because they have a lesser chance of providing dirty electricity.
4. More storage is always better, Don't just settle for a 200 gb POS HDD, get a high density Caviar Black 1 TB HDD. They perform great, have wonderful reliability, and has Western Digital's reputation backing it.
5. Caring about boot-time is just stupid. Sure, SSDs can be wonderful for bootdrives, and for gaming, but if you overuse it, say, using it as a gigantic page file, you're wasting your money, it'll just burn a hole in your pocket.
6. Don't get a watercooling kit, they don't exactly perform any better than some air coolers, If you want to do watercooling, make a custom loop, it might cost more, but it actually is worth it. Look into getting a Hyper 212 EVO or something.
7. Almost any motherboard can handle two graphics cards, but look specifically for ones that say "SLI Supported" or "CrossfireX Supported", or else you really can't run SLI or Crossfire. Also, there are (Intel) motherboards that can support running x16 x16 x8 configurations, but the difference between x8 and x16 is not noticeable.
8. There are markings on the CPU itself, and on the motherboard, examine it carefully, if you put it in wrong, you basically broke it.

I was not trying to state im some sort of expert  :D but just giving my views on things, also about amd not being for gaming is a load of horse shiat, I run bf3 with 40fps on max setting on my pc, your telling me thats not gaming? i know intel is better but on a budget amd is better as intel cost a bomb.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: droctogonapus on July 18, 2012, 00:31
I also recommend a ssd drive to install your os on and it will boot up in like 15 sec.  The other stuff on a hdd
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dan_Nobleman on July 18, 2012, 01:00
Quote from: rockey96 on July 18, 2012, 00:04
Quote from: Dan_Nobleman on July 17, 2012, 23:51
^^^ I am also 15, but I know more.

My build, of course:
Case: Corsair 800D
CPU: Intel i7-3960x 6core (12 threaded) OCed to 4.8 GHz
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage Extreme IV
GPU: 3x ASUS  3GB 1GHz Reference 7970s (Replaced with custom watercooling blocks)
SSD: 4x Corsair ForceGT 240GB In RAID 0
HDD: 2x Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB in RAID 0

Time to correct

1. Full tower cases are nice, and can be used throughout a few builds, I personally recommend only getting full towers because of how much room you have.
2.  AMD CPUs are not recommended for actual gaming PC builds, since they just create horrible bottlenecks. If you're only going to play SAMP, go for it.
3. Cheap power supplies have horrible capacitors and voltage regulators, now you should always look for respected brands, because they have a lesser chance of providing dirty electricity.
4. More storage is always better, Don't just settle for a 200 gb POS HDD, get a high density Caviar Black 1 TB HDD. They perform great, have wonderful reliability, and has Western Digital's reputation backing it.
5. Caring about boot-time is just stupid. Sure, SSDs can be wonderful for bootdrives, and for gaming, but if you overuse it, say, using it as a gigantic page file, you're wasting your money, it'll just burn a hole in your pocket.
6. Don't get a watercooling kit, they don't exactly perform any better than some air coolers, If you want to do watercooling, make a custom loop, it might cost more, but it actually is worth it. Look into getting a Hyper 212 EVO or something.
7. Almost any motherboard can handle two graphics cards, but look specifically for ones that say "SLI Supported" or "CrossfireX Supported", or else you really can't run SLI or Crossfire. Also, there are (Intel) motherboards that can support running x16 x16 x8 configurations, but the difference between x8 and x16 is not noticeable.
8. There are markings on the CPU itself, and on the motherboard, examine it carefully, if you put it in wrong, you basically broke it.

I was not trying to state im some sort of expert  :D but just giving my views on things, also about amd not being for gaming is a load of horse shiat, I run bf3 with 40fps on max setting on my pc, your telling me thats not gaming? i know intel is better but on a budget amd is better as intel cost a bomb.

40FPS isn't anything of gaming quality. I can push 100FPS easily @ 2560x1600
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: mrtrlt on July 18, 2012, 02:06
Quote from: DJ_Smashon on July 17, 2012, 18:41
I recommend 7000 series AMD cards. Don't buy 6000 They're soon getting old. :P

hey! I have a 4900 xD

then again. My system's growing on 3 years old now D:
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: RaceRX on July 18, 2012, 06:26
get an i5 2500k, with a asus motherboard, asus or gigabyte or HIS 7850 or 7870 graphics card, atleast a mid tower case. (if you get a mid tower you might have to get the 7850), 16 gigs of ram is ideal, but 8 will do, get about 720watt psu, and depending on how much stuff you have on your computer, get the size hdd you think you need. i have a 620, and a 320 as a backup drive. But, most gaming rigs that are set up correctly have a 1tb. Oh, and a CPU cooler and heatsync wouldnt be a bad idea. Also, steal a CD drive from an old computer. that whole build would cost you around $900 - 1000. or, you can clone my build. works great, $650. no after market cooler, and i had the hdd and CD drive. wish i got a better graphics card. i have a 6850 asus, 990x gigabyte motherboard, 960t AMD cpu (intel is much better, i5 was my first choice but they sold out when i was building.) 720 seasonic PSU, rosewill destroyer case (MID TOWER), and 620 + 320gb hdd, and a recycled CD drive.

All USD pricing. im sure itll cost you more. So, basically, set up an AMD build probally, and paste the parts youre gonna get here before you order them. and, use newegg.com.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Rockey on July 18, 2012, 11:06
Quote from: Dan_Nobleman on July 18, 2012, 01:00
Quote from: rockey96 on July 18, 2012, 00:04
Quote from: Dan_Nobleman on July 17, 2012, 23:51
^^^ I am also 15, but I know more.

My build, of course:
Case: Corsair 800D
CPU: Intel i7-3960x 6core (12 threaded) OCed to 4.8 GHz
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage Extreme IV
GPU: 3x ASUS  3GB 1GHz Reference 7970s (Replaced with custom watercooling blocks)
SSD: 4x Corsair ForceGT 240GB In RAID 0
HDD: 2x Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB in RAID 0

Time to correct

1. Full tower cases are nice, and can be used throughout a few builds, I personally recommend only getting full towers because of how much room you have.
2.  AMD CPUs are not recommended for actual gaming PC builds, since they just create horrible bottlenecks. If you're only going to play SAMP, go for it.
3. Cheap power supplies have horrible capacitors and voltage regulators, now you should always look for respected brands, because they have a lesser chance of providing dirty electricity.
4. More storage is always better, Don't just settle for a 200 gb POS HDD, get a high density Caviar Black 1 TB HDD. They perform great, have wonderful reliability, and has Western Digital's reputation backing it.
5. Caring about boot-time is just stupid. Sure, SSDs can be wonderful for bootdrives, and for gaming, but if you overuse it, say, using it as a gigantic page file, you're wasting your money, it'll just burn a hole in your pocket.
6. Don't get a watercooling kit, they don't exactly perform any better than some air coolers, If you want to do watercooling, make a custom loop, it might cost more, but it actually is worth it. Look into getting a Hyper 212 EVO or something.
7. Almost any motherboard can handle two graphics cards, but look specifically for ones that say "SLI Supported" or "CrossfireX Supported", or else you really can't run SLI or Crossfire. Also, there are (Intel) motherboards that can support running x16 x16 x8 configurations, but the difference between x8 and x16 is not noticeable.
8. There are markings on the CPU itself, and on the motherboard, examine it carefully, if you put it in wrong, you basically broke it.

I was not trying to state im some sort of expert  :D but just giving my views on things, also about amd not being for gaming is a load of horse shiat, I run bf3 with 40fps on max setting on my pc, your telling me thats not gaming? i know intel is better but on a budget amd is better as intel cost a bomb.

40FPS isn't anything of gaming quality. I can push 100FPS easily @ 2560x1600

Maybe... but i bet your build cost was alot more, and from what i am aware the eye can only see around 30fps so why the hell do you need 100fps.. i maybe wrong there but thats what i have been told :)
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: TheSandman on July 18, 2012, 11:07
Eye sees 45 fps.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 18, 2012, 11:24
But fraps sees 100 Fps :D
I need a high fps for recording  I can only reach ~40 fps atm ...
And a fast computer to edit and render my videos faster.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dan_Nobleman on July 19, 2012, 09:09
Quote from: TheSandman on July 18, 2012, 11:07
Eye sees 45 fps.

Quote from: rockey96 on July 18, 2012, 11:06
Maybe... but i bet your build cost was alot more, and from what i am aware the eye can only see around 30fps so why the hell do you need 100fps.. i maybe wrong there but thats what i have been told :)

Two contradicting answers.

My point is, there is a HUGE difference between playing a game at 20 FPS, 30 FPS, 40 FPS, 50, FPS, then up to 60 FPS (Since 60hz is a pretty much global monitor refresh rate).

So what if it costs more? It can last you longer, and you're insured that the products will last longer.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 19, 2012, 22:12
I have a question, if i buy a laptop with for example 500 Gb HDD, i5 etc ... and only 4 Gb of ram, can i just change the ram without touching/changing the whole system ? Or the ram has to refer to the motherboard, or the processor or... I don't know ... ?
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: mrtrlt on July 20, 2012, 01:30
It depends if the motherboard can handle it. Most average stock pcs cannot have their ram upgraded. Ask the manufacturer of the.motherboard or research online.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Mr.Kangaroo on July 20, 2012, 02:16
Quote from: Matt[AUS] on July 20, 2012, 01:30
It depends if the motherboard can handle it. Most average stock pcs cannot have their ram upgraded. Ask the manufacturer of the.motherboard or research online.
I dont get it.. :O
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Nate on July 20, 2012, 03:43
Here is a starting point since I see a lot of misleading information on here. I5 3570k CPU. Cooler master hyper 212 EVO CPU cooler. Then a corsair psu. As for a mother board get z77 chipset. Some mobo makers I prefer: asus, asrock, gigabyte always make good quality boards. 8gb (2x4gb dual channel) of ram. Never a good idea to load down the mobo with all 4 slots of ram.

This will give you a solid foundation for your system. From there you can get what ever video card is within your budget. I prefer NVIDIA after I lost all respect for amd after the 7000 series. But you choose what ever you want (don't let people tell you one company is better and DO NOT believe the NVIDIA fanboys that say amd drivers suck. It's just bs.)

Always get a good cpu because CPU technology is so far ahead of Gpu technology right now that you will have to upgrade your gpu long before the CPU. My 2 cents.

Edit: don't waste money for an I7. They don't boost game performance enough to be worth it and generally are used for video editing pc's because of the Hyper threading.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Nate on July 20, 2012, 03:48
Here's a fun fact to end the arguement from above: the human eye is only capable of seeing 62 fps. So don't strive to get 100 fps in games because its just a waste of money
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: droctogonapus on July 20, 2012, 04:58
Quote from: Nate on July 20, 2012, 03:48
Here's a fun fact to end the arguement from above: the human eye is only capable of seeing 62 fps. So don't strive to get 100 fps in games because its just a waste of money
more like a waste of computer resources.  Not a waste of money
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Nate on July 20, 2012, 05:23
Quote from: droctogonapus on July 20, 2012, 04:58
Quote from: Nate on July 20, 2012, 03:48
Here's a fun fact to end the arguement from above: the human eye is only capable of seeing 62 fps. So don't strive to get 100 fps in games because its just a waste of money
more like a waste of computer resources.  Not a waste of money

Waste of money if you go buy a Gtx 690 to use on a single 1080p monitor and achieve 100 fps... but yes waste of computer resources as well. /fpslimit FTW
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Nate on July 20, 2012, 05:27
Quote from: Vinny on July 19, 2012, 22:12
I have a question, if i buy a laptop with for example 500 Gb HDD, i5 etc ... and only 4 Gb of ram, can i just change the ram without touching/changing the whole system ? Or the ram has to refer to the motherboard, or the processor or... I don't know ... ?

Every laptop i know can have the ram upgraded and its really simple to do. Give me your laptop name and i can make sure it's possible.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 20, 2012, 06:00
I don't have it yet xD im just asking.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 20, 2012, 06:19
Btw Nate this is your laptop ?
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230354

I would head to a similar one but with 8 gb of ram, maybe 500 or 750 Gb HDD, i can still change it, and a 17,1" screen.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Nate on July 20, 2012, 06:38
Yeah that's my Old laptop that Just died (Getting a desktop now  :D)
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on July 20, 2012, 07:08
Nice lol. What fucked up in the laptop ?
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dan_Nobleman on July 20, 2012, 08:02
Quote from: Nate on July 20, 2012, 03:48
Here's a fun fact to end the arguement from above: the human eye is only capable of seeing 62 fps. So don't strive to get 100 fps in games because its just a waste of money

So if I have a firmware cap at 60 FPS (60hz), no higher, it will only render 60fps at the most, now if you decide to turn to an area that has a lot of rendering to do, it gets hit with a FPS drop, and you get that awful lag, now if you had a card that runs cleanly at 100fps, and it has an FPS drop, it might drop down to 80 FPS, and you won't notice that FPS drop because no matter what you're seeing is 60 FPS.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Nate on July 20, 2012, 08:20
Quote from: Dan_Nobleman on July 20, 2012, 08:02
Quote from: Nate on July 20, 2012, 03:48
Here's a fun fact to end the arguement from above: the human eye is only capable of seeing 62 fps. So don't strive to get 100 fps in games because its just a waste of money

So if I have a firmware cap at 60 FPS (60hz), no higher, it will only render 60fps at the most, now if you decide to turn to an area that has a lot of rendering to do, it gets hit with a FPS drop, and you get that awful lag, now if you had a card that runs cleanly at 100fps, and it has an FPS drop, it might drop down to 80 FPS, and you won't notice that FPS drop because no matter what you're seeing is 60 FPS.

I will give you that one.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: mick88 on July 28, 2012, 17:04
Quote from: Beelzeboss on July 15, 2012, 00:00
A computer isnt something we can help you, we can suggest you stuff but maybe if the game you want doesnt work you should not get mad at us :P
I like ATI Radeon HD 6850 or ATI Radeon HD 6870 as videocard, AMD Phenom li x6 as processor and maybe 4gb or 8gb as ram but its all up to you what you want to buy :)

This is a gameplay of Battlefield 3 with that videocard and processor i told you :)


I have the Radeon HD 6870, it's pretty good. But the title of this video says it's the HD 6970 - much more expensive.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Benny on July 28, 2012, 17:20
Quote from: mick88 on July 28, 2012, 17:04
Quote from: Beelzeboss on July 15, 2012, 00:00
A computer isnt something we can help you, we can suggest you stuff but maybe if the game you want doesnt work you should not get mad at us :P
I like ATI Radeon HD 6850 or ATI Radeon HD 6870 as videocard, AMD Phenom li x6 as processor and maybe 4gb or 8gb as ram but its all up to you what you want to buy :)

This is a gameplay of Battlefield 3 with that videocard and processor i told you :)


I have the Radeon HD 6870, it's pretty good. But the title of this video says it's the HD 6970 - much more expensive.
Well i have Radeon HD 6670 i give like 90€ for it.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Gameboy on July 28, 2012, 18:15
I Have NVIDIA Geforce GT 520M That's a really good Grapichs Card
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: DJ_Smashon on July 29, 2012, 13:41
Quote from: Wietse on July 28, 2012, 18:15
I Have NVIDIA Geforce GT 520M That's a really good Grapichs Card


Yea but it's a mobile card.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dr_dog on July 29, 2012, 14:21
Quote from: DJ_Smashon on July 29, 2012, 13:41
Quote from: Wietse on July 28, 2012, 18:15
I Have NVIDIA Geforce GT 520M That's a really good Grapichs Card


Yea but it's a mobile card.
Its not even a card, its a chip in the motherboard. And mobile CPU and GPU are shit.
Radeon 6870 is affordable and performs great. I got couple and im happy of them
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Nate on July 29, 2012, 19:30
Quote from: Vinny on July 20, 2012, 07:08
Nice lol. What fucked up in the laptop ?

HDD crashed
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dan_Nobleman on July 30, 2012, 10:50
Quote from: Nate on July 29, 2012, 19:30
Quote from: Vinny on July 20, 2012, 07:08
Nice lol. What fucked up in the laptop ?

HDD crashed

>Refurbished HDD
Oh well, atleast you have a new laptop.

Also, heed my warning, Don't get Ivy Bridge Processors if you plan on extreme overclocking.
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on August 24, 2012, 08:58
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
Is it a good i5 ?

Btw is it possible that the CPU has already a GPU ?
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dan_Nobleman on August 24, 2012, 09:20
Quote from: Vinny on August 24, 2012, 08:58
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074)
Is it a good i5 ?

Btw is it possible that the CPU has already a GPU ?

It's okay, but it isn't unlocked, so you can't overclock

The CPU and GPU are two different things. Most Intel processors have graphics cores, "Intel HD Graphics ...."
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on August 24, 2012, 09:46
Quote from: Dan_Nobleman on August 24, 2012, 09:20
"Intel HD Graphics ...."
Its something else than a GPU ?

Btw what ram you suggest me ? I thought about 8 Gb but don't know which to choose on newegg.
Seems like this one is not bad: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314

And what about the power supply ? For a medium pc, i mean i don't want a lame pc, but not the best gaming pc either, but atleast:
8gb ram or 16 but will it be compatible ?750 Gb - 1 Tb hard drive
i5,
a good graphics card.
a nice case, i thought this one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066)
a cd burner for 30$ is enough ? (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135256)

But for average 400-600 EUR max.

and 1 EUR = 1.25379 USD so lets say 750 USD is the maximal price i can give.


BTW:
Quote from: Dan_Nobleman on July 17, 2012, 23:51
My build, of course:
Case: Corsair 800D
CPU: Intel i7-3960x 6core (12 threaded) OCed to 4.8 GHz
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage Extreme IV
GPU: 3x ASUS  3GB 1GHz Reference 7970s (Replaced with custom watercooling blocks)
SSD: 4x Corsair ForceGT 240GB In RAID 0
HDD: 2x Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB in RAID 0
how much you paid for it ? Thats a fucking beast !

and ............
what about this ? http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24855847

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519%2050001028%2040000343%204017&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=343%7C19-115-074%5E19-115-074-TS%2C19-106-010%5E19-106-010-TS





Another thing:
Those who plan to build their own computer, i found this:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_To_Assemble_A_Desktop_PC
This a book wikipedia made. Its downloadeable on the right. it has 90 pages and there is (i think) all you need to know to build a desktop computer !
Hope it helps you !
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on August 26, 2012, 00:30
pliz help i, i good guy, me no hak, me build want computer ...

(could someone reply please ?)
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Dr_dog on August 26, 2012, 18:04
That Antec 300 is a horrible case design. You can barely fit a Radeon 4850 there. Cable management is terrible. there is no cable holes to put them you need to run them to right side of the drive cage and having a ATX board in that leaves not much space.
Also about Power supply, dont get those 50€ power supplies you should pay atleast 100€ for a quality one and from brands like Antec, coolermaster, Nexus. (Not a china miracle supplies) A 850 or 1000W power supply would do probably. Modular is better so you can remove the useless cables for better airflow.

Always look for RAM with heatsinks on them. Also when selecting motherboard remember to check does it support the ram speed you got (That G.Skill is 1600Mhz) Also check that your motherboard supports PCI-e 3.0 if you want to run a 7xxx series card on it.


Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: droctogonapus on August 26, 2012, 21:04
7xxx series is backwards compatible with 2.0 pci-e
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: Vinny on August 27, 2012, 17:43
Ehm what is the difference between AM3 and AM3+ asus motherboards ? I guess AM3+ is better but ...
Title: Re: Building a pc
Post by: DJ_Smashon on August 27, 2012, 18:33
Quote from: Vinny on August 27, 2012, 17:43
Ehm what is the difference between AM3 and AM3+ asus motherboards ? I guess AM3+ is better but ...


I've heard that you can use AM3 CPU's on AM3+ motherboards and AM3+ supports the new 8 core.(I'm using the 6 core AM3+ :)))