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Server related => Suggestions => Locked & Closed Suggestions => Topic started by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 21, 2013, 17:02

Title: New childboard we all need
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 21, 2013, 17:02
Yeah, lately admins at the forum added some childboards we don't really need. (especially in off topic). I am not raging about them or anything similar. But why don't we add a childboard which will actually improve CT.
Add it under 'Members'. We already have 'Compliments' childboard but why don't we have 'Criticize' Childboard? It will be really helpful.
Why? Because everyone want to be complimented, none want to be criticized. Add it, same rules will apply there
Flame war = Remove of replies
Insulting = forum warn/ban
Off topic = remove of replies.

Tell me if you agree :)  :like:
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: TheSandman on December 21, 2013, 17:11
So everyone can post to bitch about the server and the admins? Heheheh no.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 21, 2013, 17:15
Quote from: TheSandman on December 21, 2013, 17:11
So everyone can post to bitch about the server and the admins? Heheheh no.
No. Post the truth. Don't lock btw
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Benny on December 21, 2013, 17:16
How about no.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 21, 2013, 17:20
Yeah, I know every staff team will disagree. As I said, none wants to hear the truth about them.
Critics are good for you too. If we criticize you, you will know where you made a mistake and fix it!
once more, don't lock and wait for ordinary players to post.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Sjomp on December 21, 2013, 17:23
 :like:
I like it I kinda asked the same at the future topic thing

Quote from: Sjomp on December 04, 2013, 14:48
And people should be able to give us staff feedback where we could work on and not only compliments. (compliments are useless since you don't learn anything from it, it only gives a good feeling)
I would like to know where I could work on as mod :)
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: TheSandman on December 21, 2013, 17:25
Because its not needed, if you want to criticize them, use their PM. Otherwise the board will only be used for attacking staff members for everytime they make a decision, and/or make a mistake. It wont be constructive criticism.
It will be like, when you get warned for something you dont think is punishable, yet our guidelines say it is. People will come straight to the board just to complain, and not use the correct complaint section.
I wont lock this, i want to see if anyone else has the same POV as you. I would personally be willing to give it a try, but at any/first sign of abuse/unconstructive complaints i woudl be deleting the board within the next minute.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: sardarji on December 21, 2013, 17:40
So. u can talk about staff or everyone ?
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Hobo on December 21, 2013, 18:48
If we add that then I can post about how much this suggestion sucks, and how much Shake abuses me. :like:
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 21, 2013, 19:13
Quote from: sardarji on December 21, 2013, 17:40
So. u can talk about staff or everyone ?
Staff. Since in compliments u can compliment only staff.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Shake on December 21, 2013, 19:32
Quote from: TheSandman on December 21, 2013, 17:25
Because its not needed, if you want to criticize them, use their PM.


Quote from: mick88
5) Do not PM admins.


So....?
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Marccc on December 21, 2013, 19:34
Not needed, you guys will cry there around for every showing rules/kick/mute and want getting attention for every see how cool i am i dare to give criticism.
If you have really problems with staff members about abuse or unjustly behaviour, use admin inbox.

Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Hobo on December 21, 2013, 19:34
Quote from: Shake on December 21, 2013, 19:32
Quote from: TheSandman on December 21, 2013, 17:25
Because its not needed, if you want to criticize them, use their PM.


Quote from: mick88
5) Do not PM admins.


So....?

Infinite loop detected.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 21, 2013, 19:40
Quote from: Marccc on December 21, 2013, 19:34
Not needed, you guys will cry there around for every showing rules/kick/mute and want getting attention for every see how cool i am i dare to give criticism.
If you have really problems with staff members about abuse or unjustly behaviour, use admin inbox.
Only admins can see admin inbox. Plus we should use it for really important things.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Joshy on December 21, 2013, 19:45
What do you mean by criticism? Minor but not "abusing" stuff like "bad attitude" etc? I don't think a board should be allocated for that.

I see this type of board as something that will end up with either things that should be in problems & complaints or people bitching about their punishments (which should be in problems & complaints).

Give me examples (don't have to name anyone).
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 21, 2013, 19:47
Quote from: Joshy on December 21, 2013, 19:45
What do you mean by criticism? Minor but not "abusing" stuff like "bad attitude" etc? I don't think a board should be allocated for that.

I see this type of board as something that will end up with either things that should be in problems & complaints or people bitching about their punishments (which should be in problems & complaints).
Not helpful. Arrogant. Helping only his friends. Using bad language. Representing CT in bad light..
List goes on..
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: sardarji on December 21, 2013, 19:50
I dont think it will be helpful...
As some staff will thing they r just bitching them.  If they didnt help him one time u will post a negative comment.

So it will not help them in improving...
and im preety sure it wont be added...
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Joshy on December 21, 2013, 19:59
Quote from: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 21, 2013, 19:47
Quote from: Joshy on December 21, 2013, 19:45
What do you mean by criticism? Minor but not "abusing" stuff like "bad attitude" etc? I don't think a board should be allocated for that.

I see this type of board as something that will end up with either things that should be in problems & complaints or people bitching about their punishments (which should be in problems & complaints).
Not helpful. Arrogant. Helping only his friends. Using bad language. Representing CT in bad light..
List goes on..
Most of those are eligible to be posted in problems & complaints board. It's not serious abuse but staff are expected to be helpful to entire server and be professional about it, and really should be seen as friendly reminders and not complaints.

Having said that, don't go overboard with the (amount of) topics you make. Usually it's sufficient to tell them in-person but if it's persistent consider creating a complaint.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Sjomp on December 21, 2013, 20:11
Quote from: Joshy on December 21, 2013, 19:59
Quote from: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 21, 2013, 19:47
Quote from: Joshy on December 21, 2013, 19:45
What do you mean by criticism? Minor but not "abusing" stuff like "bad attitude" etc? I don't think a board should be allocated for that.

I see this type of board as something that will end up with either things that should be in problems & complaints or people bitching about their punishments (which should be in problems & complaints).
Not helpful. Arrogant. Helping only his friends. Using bad language. Representing CT in bad light..
List goes on..
Most of those are eligible to be posted in problems & complaints board. It's not serious abuse but staff are expected to be helpful to entire server and be professional about it, and really should be seen as friendly reminders and not complaints.

Having said that, don't go overboard with the (amount of) topics you make. Usually it's sufficient to tell them in-person but if it's persistent consider creating a complaint.

The problem is if they post in problems & complaints they need proof and bruno wants to give feedback without proof.
and most problems & complaints will get locked because of no proof or not enough proof.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 21, 2013, 20:21
Quote from: Sjomp on December 21, 2013, 20:11
Quote from: Joshy on December 21, 2013, 19:59
Quote from: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 21, 2013, 19:47
Quote from: Joshy on December 21, 2013, 19:45
What do you mean by criticism? Minor but not "abusing" stuff like "bad attitude" etc? I don't think a board should be allocated for that.

I see this type of board as something that will end up with either things that should be in problems & complaints or people bitching about their punishments (which should be in problems & complaints).
Not helpful. Arrogant. Helping only his friends. Using bad language. Representing CT in bad light..
List goes on..
Most of those are eligible to be posted in problems & complaints board. It's not serious abuse but staff are expected to be helpful to entire server and be professional about it, and really should be seen as friendly reminders and not complaints.

Having said that, don't go overboard with the (amount of) topics you make. Usually it's sufficient to tell them in-person but if it's persistent consider creating a complaint.

The problem is if they post in problems & complaints they need proof and bruno wants to give feedback without proof.
and most problems & complaints will get locked because of no proof or not enough proof.
And of course. I make complaint about someone, he dislikes it, he locks it. I have no power to do anything.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Twido on December 22, 2013, 10:10
Although staff fails atm. There shouldn't be a new childoard for this, we all know that the people who post there will get forum warns. Cuz every single staff member is hated by atleast 1 person and will only get tons of hate. I even believe that the "Critize" childboard will be more used then the compliment childboard
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Konali on December 22, 2013, 10:19
Creating such a board will mainly target the staff users. Since they always could improve them selves it might be usefull. But not in this community and this server because in the past 3 years i only have seen a handfull of players that actually can make constructive posts against staff. Take Rubber or ThomaKirkman.


I dont think staff deserves accusations or critics without any proof and being targeted once more. And brane, if you have crictics against a staff member, you should indeed make a topic or an admin inbox topic, and if your complaints are valid/constructive and with proof it will always be taken seriously.


The idea might me ok, but it will not work in a community where mostly everything against staff is accusations without proof. You basically want to increase that, so i say no.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Jopi on December 22, 2013, 10:31
Yes! :D
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Joshy on December 22, 2013, 11:08
Quote from: Konali on December 22, 2013, 10:19
Creating such a board will mainly target the staff users. Since they always could improve them selves it might be usefull. But not in this community and this server because in the past 3 years i only have seen a handfull of players that actually can make constructive posts against staff. Take Rubber or ThomaKirkman.


I dont think staff deserves accusations or critics without any proof and being targeted once more. And brane, if you have crictics against a staff member, you should indeed make a topic or an admin inbox topic, and if your complaints are valid/constructive and with proof it will always be taken seriously.


The idea might me ok, but it will not work in a community where mostly everything against staff is accusations without proof. You basically want to increase that, so i say no.
Ya' heard the pink guy.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: mick88 on December 22, 2013, 12:47
The Compliments board is there to promote positive attitude, pretty much like Facebook only has likes, not dislikes. If you need to critisize someone, you will probably want to do this in Report section.
Title: Re: New childboard we all need
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on December 22, 2013, 13:43
Quote from: Konali on December 22, 2013, 10:19
Creating such a board will mainly target the staff users. Since they always could improve them selves it might be usefull. But not in this community and this server because in the past 3 years i only have seen a handfull of players that actually can make constructive posts against staff. Take Rubber or ThomaKirkman.


I dont think staff deserves accusations or critics without any proof and being targeted once more. And brane, if you have crictics against a staff member, you should indeed make a topic or an admin inbox topic, and if your complaints are valid/constructive and with proof it will always be taken seriously.


The idea might me ok, but it will not work in a community where mostly everything against staff is accusations without proof. You basically want to increase that, so i say no.
This idea came on my mind after several posts by moderators at the forum. Okay, I'll take pictures and send them to you through admin inbox. I know it's not a big deal but as you always were teaching me 'With every word you say, it's word of CT. So don't say bad things'. (In your words sounds better, but this is the point). Okay, check it later ;)