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Title: I need a new PC
Post by: Hobo on August 12, 2013, 00:06
Alright, I need a new desktop PC. My current laptop specs are:
2.20Ghz dual core Intel Pentium B960 (http://ark.intel.com/products/59836) with Intel HD 3000 graphics
8 GB DDR3 RAM (upgraded from 4GB)
320GB HDD
Windows 7 64 bit

It's good for a school laptop and can play a few games but there are so many that it can't run.


I want to build a PC for a relatively cheap price, hopefully under $400. I'd love for it to be able to run most games at decent FPS. Games like GTA IV (I can almost run this now), Arma II, Borderlands, Fallout 3, Saints Row 3, Just Cause 2. Things like that.

I've been looking at AMD for a processor since it's cheap and seems decent.
I'd like a graphics card with at least 1GB of vRam.
RAM is cheap so I'd get 8 or more GB of that.
A 500GB HDD would be plenty for me. I have a few external drives too.
A PSU since mine is old and only 300W
Then I just need a motherboard to put everything together.

I have a case and a DVD drive. I'll also need to buy Windows 7 because I hate Windows 8  :-\

What do you guys suggest for parts? I'd prefer to use http://www.newegg.com/ to buy everything.
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 00:12
buy mine!

maybe shouldnt post the link, but hell its hobo.

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/custom-built-gaming-pc-three-screen-setup/1028290497
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: SeraMondialu on August 12, 2013, 00:14
on that moneys i would buy my first motorbike since i'm near 16 .

Don't buy his rig !
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 00:15
Quote from: turtle.the.ripper on August 12, 2013, 00:14
on that moneys i would buy my first motorbike since i'm near 16 .

Don't buy his rig !

why not? the price is more than it'll sell for, as i said, i will accept a decent offer  O:-)

you just jealous kid
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: SeraMondialu on August 12, 2013, 00:21
Quote from: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 00:15
Quote from: turtle.the.ripper on August 12, 2013, 00:14
on that moneys i would buy my first motorbike since i'm near 16 .

Don't buy his rig !

why not? the price is more than it'll sell for, as i said, i will accept a decent offer  O:-)

you just jealous kid

And someone that has "a life" will surelly give you 1600E for an used PC.
You'll be lucky if a kid that has been born on moneys will buy it, but a normal guy won't buy it.

With 1600E you can have a decent vacance in Dubai lol .
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 00:23
Quote from: turtle.the.ripper on August 12, 2013, 00:21
Quote from: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 00:15
Quote from: turtle.the.ripper on August 12, 2013, 00:14
on that moneys i would buy my first motorbike since i'm near 16 .

Don't buy his rig !

why not? the price is more than it'll sell for, as i said, i will accept a decent offer  O:-)

you just jealous kid

And someone that has "a life" will surelly give you 1600E for an used PC.
You'll be lucky if a kid that has been born on moneys will buy it, but a normal guy won't buy it.

With 1600E you can have a decent vacance in Dubai lol .

people spend alot more on computers than what im asking for, yes its used, but thats not the point..

however i get what you mean, its alot of money!
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Vinny on August 12, 2013, 00:24
Actually these are called pounds not euro but okay
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Twido on August 12, 2013, 00:25
Idk about your setup rockey, but hobo said 400$
Hobo, I don't wanna suggest you stuff because i always fail with choosing. Ask hax, he is good, just say your budget and he will find a decent desktop
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 00:26
Quote from: Twido on August 12, 2013, 00:25
Idk about your setup rockey, but hobo said 400$
Hobo, I don't wanna suggest you stuff because i always fail with choosing. Ask hax, he is good, just say your budget and he will find a decent desktop

my setup is fucking awesome, three screens of porn is fucking confusing dude  O:-)
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Vinny on August 12, 2013, 00:29
Check this hobo seems not bad and if you take the ssd case and dvd out the price looks fine
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22060752
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Supreme on August 12, 2013, 00:35
Hobo, visit www.reddit.com/r/buildapcforme  ;)
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Hobo on August 12, 2013, 00:41
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2013, 00:29
Check this hobo seems not bad and if you take the ssd case and dvd out the price looks fine
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22060752
That looks pretty decent after I changed a few things around, I'll keep that as a back up. Thank you.

Quote from: Supreme on August 12, 2013, 00:35
Hobo, visit www.reddit.com/r/buildapcforme  ;)
Ermahgawd I forgot about that subreddit. Time to post.
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Ethan on August 12, 2013, 02:16
http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcforme/comments/1k6b9m/gaming_pc_as_close_to_400_as_possible_usa/

:biggrin: :OK:
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Calvingreen17. on August 12, 2013, 02:22
Quote from: Hobo on August 12, 2013, 00:41
Quote from: Vinny on August 12, 2013, 00:29
Check this hobo seems not bad and if you take the ssd case and dvd out the price looks fine
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22060752
That looks pretty decent after I changed a few things around, I'll keep that as a back up. Thank you.

Quote from: Supreme on August 12, 2013, 00:35
Hobo, visit www.reddit.com/r/buildapcforme  ;)
Ermahgawd I forgot about that subreddit. Time to post.

Dont get Vinny's suggestion. All AMD bulldozer processors are bullshit. They lack so many IPCs that you'll feel like you're running a Sempron single core. Get a Vishera.

Or if you really wanna save money while being able to play games, get a Trinity or Richland APU processor. The IGP isnt bad at all. I will still make you a suggestion list with a dedicated graphics card.
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Hobo on August 12, 2013, 05:47
Current option:

Total (including shipping + discounts): $395.16


Thoughts?
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: JOKER on August 12, 2013, 06:01
I do.expert in PC's but if u can atlist make 500$

Then u should watch.this site; http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/
EDIT:i found 2 PC's one cost 719 and the other cost 579 pm me and i.send u their specs.
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: bazingashane0 on August 12, 2013, 06:22
Quote from: Hobo on August 12, 2013, 05:47
Current option:

       
  • ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 AM3+ AMD RX881/760G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157366)
  • AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113280)
  • GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144614)
  • COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS500-PCARD3-US 500W ATX12V v2.3 Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031)
  • Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533)
Total (including shipping + discounts): $395.16


Thoughts?
The CPU is incompatible with that motherboard (The motherboard is Socket am3+ and the cpu is socket FM2)
If your after a 1TB drive there is a WD Blue [size=78%]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339)[/size] and it's $20 cheaper then the black and does the same job if on a budget,
And I would still recommend going for a dedicated video card that I recommended which with the setup I recommended only put your budget out by $48 ($58 if you go with the 1TB WD Blue)
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Dr_dog on August 12, 2013, 06:33
if you want a good cheap dedicated video card. Go with Radeon HD 7770 or 7780. here those are like 140-190€ depending on who overclocked them and put better coolers on them

Also if you going with the Antec 300, theres going to be 2 tricool fans. They got Low, Medium and High speed settings on long wire. I suggest to make a hole near rear corner of the sidepanel to get those controllers out so you can switch them to higher speeds when doing heavier gaming or heat is getting high.
The case is tight fit with full ATX but its still good sturdy case without all the tool-less features and other fancy plastics. Full aluminium and steel. Strong bastard. Only plastic in it is the front panel frame.
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Hobo on August 12, 2013, 06:35
Quote from: Shane0 on August 12, 2013, 06:22
Quote from: Hobo on August 12, 2013, 05:47
Current option:

       
  • ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 AM3+ AMD RX881/760G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157366)
  • AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113280)
  • GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144614)
  • COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS500-PCARD3-US 500W ATX12V v2.3 Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031)
  • Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533)
Total (including shipping + discounts): $395.16


Thoughts?
The CPU is incompatible with that motherboard (The motherboard is Socket am3+ and the cpu is socket FM2)
If your after a 1TB drive there is a WD Blue [size=78%]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339)[/size] and it's $20 cheaper then the black and does the same job if on a budget,
And I would still recommend going for a dedicated video card that I recommended which with the setup I recommended only put your budget out by $48 ($58 if you go with the 1TB WD Blue)
Well I did save $400 on textbooks (thank you internet). I'll probably go with your build.
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: JOKER on August 12, 2013, 06:52
Check this out: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=221265609258&cmd=VIDESC
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Dr_dog on August 12, 2013, 06:58
Honestly ebay should be last place to look from. And i still wouldnt buy from it machines that are supposed to be in main use. refurbished servers are different thing. Call me paranoid but i wouldnt do it. And being shipped by UPS or DHL most likely...
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: bazingashane0 on August 12, 2013, 07:05
Quote from: Dr_dog on August 12, 2013, 06:58
Honestly ebay should be last place to look from. And i still wouldnt buy from it machines that are supposed to be in main use. refurbished servers are different thing. Call me paranoid but i wouldnt do it. And being shipped by UPS or DHL most likely...
+1 with this.
Using ebay to buy something you would keep in your main pc is scary lol
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Hobo on August 12, 2013, 07:07
NEW
Current option:

Total (including shipping + discounts): $475.15

Same as before except different CPU and GPU. With the GPU I get this for free: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800995150 (ikr ermahgawd)
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: JOKER on August 12, 2013, 08:04
On topic@:its seems good Pc.

Off topic@:guys i want to.buy Razer Death Stalker Expert Gaming keyboard. and DeathAdder mouse by Razer.

My question is:if Razer.products are good and not breaking fast..?
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 09:35
Quote from: ALEX752 on August 12, 2013, 08:04
On topic@:its seems good Pc.

Off topic@:guys i want to.buy Razer Death Stalker Expert Gaming keyboard. and DeathAdder mouse by Razer.

My question is:if Razer.products are good and not breaking fast..?

razer products are very good, and high build quality.. look after them and they will last you a long time
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: JOKER on August 12, 2013, 09:44
Thx Rocky for answer,i will look up for them since i love their designes very much.!

But its not that cheap.in my country that mouse cost 63.41 Euro. and the keyboard cost 84.61 Euro.
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: JOKER on August 12, 2013, 09:45
Quote from: ALEX752 on August 12, 2013, 09:44
Thx Rocky for answer,i will look up for them since i love their designes very much.!

But its not that cheap.in my country that mouse cost 63.41 Euro. and the keyboard cost 84.61 Euro.

I translated from.my country money into euros.
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 09:52
Quote from: ALEX752 on August 12, 2013, 09:44
Thx Rocky for answer,i will look up for them since i love their designes very much.!

But its not that cheap.in my country that mouse cost 63.41 Euro. and the keyboard cost 84.61 Euro.

yeah i agree, they cost alot of money, however they are good products.. Check some Roccat products, they are similar, i use Roccat products and i love them.

Check the Roccat Kone XTD mouse
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Ethan on August 12, 2013, 13:48
omergwad (however you guys say it)  I should be saving up my money so in like 2-3 years I can spend $500 and buy parts for a high end gaming pc for the price 3 years ago...
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: DJ_Smashon on August 12, 2013, 13:52
Don't buy windows saves ~100$
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 13:54
Quote from: DJ_Smashon on August 12, 2013, 13:52
Don't buy windows saves ~100$

ive got two copys of windows 7 ultimate, one is 32x the other has both 64x and 84x.. all have unlimited uses  8)

didnt pay a penny for them either
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: TheSandman on August 12, 2013, 13:55
Quote from: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 13:54
Quote from: DJ_Smashon on August 12, 2013, 13:52
Don't buy windows saves ~100$

ive got two copys of windows 7 ultimate, one is 32x the other has both 64x and 84x.. all have unlimited uses  8)

didnt pay a penny for them either
you mean, x64 and x86.
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 14:00
Quote from: TheSandman on August 12, 2013, 13:55
Quote from: Rockey on August 12, 2013, 13:54
Quote from: DJ_Smashon on August 12, 2013, 13:52
Don't buy windows saves ~100$

ive got two copys of windows 7 ultimate, one is 32x the other has both 64x and 84x.. all have unlimited uses  8)

didnt pay a penny for them either
you mean, x64 and x86.

i do indeed
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Hobo on August 12, 2013, 17:47
Quote from: Hobo on August 12, 2013, 07:07
NEW
Current option:

  • ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 AM3+ AMD RX881/760G SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157366)
  • AMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286)
  • GeForce GTX 650 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500294)
  • GeIL EVO Veloce Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144614)
  • COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS500-PCARD3-US 500W ATX12V v2.3 Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031)
  • Western Digital WD Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533)

Total (including shipping + discounts): $475.15

Same as before except different CPU and GPU. With the GPU I get this for free: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800995150 (ikr ermahgawd)
Ended up buying this, got free 2 day shipping by starting a free 30 day trial of some thing that I'm going to cancel as soon as this arrives.
Grand total of $463.94 USD
:not_bad:
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: themooody on August 13, 2013, 14:30
steal one :cereal:
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: DJ_Smashon on August 13, 2013, 15:36
One does not simply buy windows.
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Dr_dog on August 14, 2013, 15:41
Quote from: DJ_Smashon on August 13, 2013, 15:36
One does not simply buy windows.
waste of money.

Looks pretty decent rigt Hobo
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Vinny on August 14, 2013, 16:01
Quote from: Dr_dog on August 14, 2013, 15:41
Quote from: DJ_Smashon on August 13, 2013, 15:36
One does not simply buy windows.
waste of money.
You mean rather cracking it or using Linux ?
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Dr_dog on August 14, 2013, 16:11
Quote from: Vinny on August 14, 2013, 16:01
Quote from: Dr_dog on August 14, 2013, 15:41
Quote from: DJ_Smashon on August 13, 2013, 15:36
One does not simply buy windows.
waste of money.
You mean rather cracking it or using Linux ?
Both. I got 3 cracked W7U left in the household out of like 25 those are VMs most of them though running under a linux based host.
But yeah, W7 mainly for those who havent figured out linux yet (Wife, son and 1 for me that will run programs that isnt supported yet on linux)
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Vinny on August 14, 2013, 16:14
Quote from: Dr_dog on August 14, 2013, 16:11
Quote from: Vinny on August 14, 2013, 16:01
Quote from: Dr_dog on August 14, 2013, 15:41
Quote from: DJ_Smashon on August 13, 2013, 15:36
One does not simply buy windows.
waste of money.
You mean rather cracking it or using Linux ?
Both. I got 3 cracked W7U left in the household out of like 25 those are VMs most of them though running under a linux based host.
But yeah, W7 mainly for those who havent figured out linux yet (Wife, son and 1 for me that will run programs that isnt supported yet on linux)
What's the best Win7 for gaming ? Home Prenium or Professional ?
Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Dr_dog on August 14, 2013, 16:24
I go with the ultimate to have all features with least hardware limitations set by a microsoft.. Ultimate supporting to like 192GB of ram. and multiple processors. knowing i probably never would be running dual CPUS or over 192GB of ram but still. I like to have them all.

Title: Re: I need a new PC
Post by: Hobo on August 15, 2013, 16:30
New PC is up and running. Thank you all :D