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Title: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Supreme on May 21, 2013, 21:03
Hello, it's time to decide, not getting it now but in max 3 months (4 if some problems occur).


So I have 2 choices.


Buying a new laptop and selling current one, or keeping current one and build a rig next to it.




Option 1:
Buy a new laptop, sell old.
Link: http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_01lap/01_laptops/productdetails/80009864/lenovo_ideapad_g_series_g780_m8495mh/59346931/default.aspx (http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_01lap/01_laptops/productdetails/80009864/lenovo_ideapad_g_series_g780_m8495mh/59346931/default.aspx)


Specs
Screen: 17,3" 1600x900
RAM: 8 GB
CPU: Intel i7 3632QM - quad core 2,2ghz
GPU: nVidia GeForce GT635M 2GB


Cost: €777


Option 2:
Keeping current laptop (single core 2,2ghz - 2 gb ram - intel chipset video) and buying a cheap rig.

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 - Socket AM3+ - ATX
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/05_mobo/productdetails/20089228/gigabyte_ga_970a_ud3_am3/ga_970a_ud3/default.aspx
Prijs: €95

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB - PC3-15000 - DIMM
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/01_memint/productdetails/20076091/corsair_vengeance_8gb__pc3_15000__dimm/cmz8gx3m2a1866c9/default.aspx
Prijs: €70

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition - 3.4GHz - Socket AM3
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/04_cpu/productdetails/20002812/amd_phenom_ii_x4_965_black_edition__3_4ghz__socket_am3/hdz965fbgmbox/default.aspx
Prijs: €99

GPU: MSi Radeon R7790-1GD5/OC - 1GB - PCI-E
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/03_vidcard/productdetails/80010695/msi_radeon_r7790_1gd5_oc__1gb__pci_e/r7790_1gd5_oc/default.aspx
Prijs: €149

HDD: Western Digital Blue - 1TB
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_02ops/01_inthdd/productdetails/20170310/western_digital_blue__1tb/wd10ezex/default.aspx
Prijs: €69

PSU: Corsair Voeding CX 80Plus Bronze 600W
https://www.4launch.nl/shop/product/129954/-voeding-cx-80plus-bronze-600w/beslist
Prijs: €60

CASE: Cooler Master K280
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/06_pccase/productdetails/20181230/cooler_master_k280/rc_k280_kkn1/default.aspx
Prijs: €45

WI-FI: ASUS PCE-N15 - PCI-E
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_09net/02_wifiadp/productdetails/20107037/asus_pce_n15__pci_e/pce_n15/default.aspx
Prijs: €25

TOTAL: €612

A 27" 1920x1080 will be used, keyboard etc. are excluded.

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My question would be could I play ETS2 and GTA IV on high or ultra on at least 60 fps on both?

Also:
The PC would be €165 euro less. Can anyone check if it will all fit together since that is the only thing I am afraid of.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Calvingreen17. on May 21, 2013, 21:12
I would suggest building your own PC since it is much cheaper and you can select all of the parts you want without the unnecessary shit prebuilt PCs come with. Also, you get much knowledge with computers from building, since you have alot of research to do with selecting the correct parts. It's alot of planning ahead but it's worth it in the end.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Matias on May 21, 2013, 21:17
With the first choise you can run some games, by the way... why buy a laptop? Them all sucks, and you can't upgrade them.

I would choise build my own rig.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Supreme on May 21, 2013, 21:49
I updated the OP, might wanna check again.  :)

Edit: Added better PSU.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Matias on May 21, 2013, 22:03
Quote from: Supreme on May 21, 2013, 21:49
I updated the OP, might wanna check again.  :)

Edit: Added better PSU.

If you are able to get a phenom li then go ahead. They are no more manufactured.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: ner0 on May 21, 2013, 22:05
Buy AMD Phenom II X4 945 Black Edition, its 3,2 ghz and u can OC it to 3,4 :p and u save like 10-15 €...
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Supreme on May 21, 2013, 22:13
Quote from: Matias. on May 21, 2013, 22:03
Quote from: Supreme on May 21, 2013, 21:49
I updated the OP, might wanna check again.  :)

Edit: Added better PSU.

If you are able to get a phenom li then go ahead. They are no more manufactured.


The shop where I would buy it already has them on stock for more than months, I even e-mailed them last.


Quote from: ner0 on May 21, 2013, 22:05
Buy AMD Phenom II X4 945 Black Edition, its 3,2 ghz and u can OC it to 3,4 :p and u save like 10-15 €...


I don't wanna overclock, and 10-15 euro is no problem.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: ner0 on May 21, 2013, 22:18
10-15 € is not problem, but also there is not huge difference between that two CPU's in ghz... and yes, all components are compatible :P
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: iFrost on May 21, 2013, 23:30
965 is excellent.

I'm not going to comment on which one to get because I don't know if the laptop is good enough for your school stuff.

If you're not getting it now, you shouldn't look at it right now, as prices of technology change every month, sometimes every week, so come back in 3 months when you have the cash and I'll help you decide on a desktop/laptop

*I have plenty of experience with this kind of stuff, so trust me :P
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: TheSandman on May 22, 2013, 03:58
If you dont pick the desktop, i will fly to NL and drag your ass back to AU to melt >:)
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Calvingreen17. on May 22, 2013, 04:55
Pretty good build there. I'd prefer the nvidia Geforce GTX 650 Ti boost over that but apparently in the netherlands, the 650 is MUCH more expensive than the 7790. Here in the US, they're the same price but the 650 is better.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Dr_dog on May 22, 2013, 05:26
The case is nightmare to work with, had one of those. Theres not much possibilities to run excess cables behind the motherboard tray. Also the cooling is not that good on it due to PSU being on the top instead at bottom. After you fill it with hard drives you cant really do anything inside there due to lack of space.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: ShetlandSheepdog. on May 22, 2013, 06:12
Build one and buy a laptop :D.
A laptop is mobile so its easy.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: George on May 22, 2013, 06:21
You can take a look at this too:

Corsair ValueSelect 4GB - PC3-10600 - DIMM
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/01_memint/productdetails/20062019/corsair_valueselect_4gb__pc3_10600__dimm/cmv4gx3m1a1333c9/default.aspx (http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/01_memint/productdetails/20062019/corsair_valueselect_4gb__pc3_10600__dimm/cmv4gx3m1a1333c9/default.aspx)
30e

Western Digital Blue - 500GB
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_02ops/01_inthdd/productdetails/20067818/western_digital_blue__500gb/wd5000aakx/default.aspx (http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_02ops/01_inthdd/productdetails/20067818/western_digital_blue__500gb/wd5000aakx/default.aspx)
55e

MSi Radeon R7790-1GD5/OC - 1GB - PCI-E
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/03_vidcard/productdetails/80010695/msi_radeon_r7790_1gd5_oc__1gb__pci_e/r7790_1gd5_oc/default.aspx (http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/03_vidcard/productdetails/80010695/msi_radeon_r7790_1gd5_oc__1gb__pci_e/r7790_1gd5_oc/default.aspx)
149e

Intel Core i5-3350P - 3.1GHz - Socket 1155
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/04_cpu/productdetails/80008226/intel_core_i5_3350p__3_1ghz__socket_1155/bx80637i53350p/default.aspx (http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/04_cpu/productdetails/80008226/intel_core_i5_3350p__3_1ghz__socket_1155/bx80637i53350p/default.aspx)
179e


MSI B75MA-P45, Socket 1155, Micro-ATX
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/05_mobo/productdetails/20159364/msi_b75ma_p45_socket_1155_micro_atx/b75ma_p45/default.aspx (http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/05_mobo/productdetails/20159364/msi_b75ma_p45_socket_1155_micro_atx/b75ma_p45/default.aspx)
65e

Antec Earthwatts EA-500 Green - 500 Watt
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/07_psu/productdetails/20131854/antec_earthwatts_ea_500_green__500_watt/0_761345_04654_1/default.aspx (http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/07_psu/productdetails/20131854/antec_earthwatts_ea_500_green__500_watt/0_761345_04654_1/default.aspx)
75e

Cooler Master K280
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/06_pccase/productdetails/20181230/cooler_master_k280/rc_k280_kkn1/default.aspx (http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_08ond/06_pccase/productdetails/20181230/cooler_master_k280/rc_k280_kkn1/default.aspx)
45e

Total:598
Something like this.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Supreme on May 22, 2013, 10:34
So, thanks all.

I will pick another case, hax.

Also how could I make that build wifi-capable?
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: George on May 22, 2013, 16:04
You can buy a Wireless thing that is mounting on Pci slot.If you want to buy one built in MB is expensive.(at least in Romania)
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Supreme on May 22, 2013, 17:50
Quote from: George on May 22, 2013, 16:04
You can buy a Wireless thing that is mounting on Pci slot.If you want to buy one built in MB is expensive.(at least in Romania)


Thanks, thinking about getting this one then:
http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_09net/02_wifiadp/productdetails/20107037/asus_pce_n15__pci_e/pce_n15/default.aspx (http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_09net/02_wifiadp/productdetails/20107037/asus_pce_n15__pci_e/pce_n15/default.aspx)


I prefer wi-fi over lan since the PC will be upstairs and I don't want to have to run a cable from down to upstairs.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Twido on May 22, 2013, 19:26
stop drooling on AMD please, get an intel
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Supreme on May 22, 2013, 19:34
thanks to iFrost, I am considering this, it's 30 euro more (when buying it), but worth it says Frost:


All items:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/bestelkosten/436710?tti=2&pti=10&minscore=&maxdelivery=&minproducts=4&maxshops=1#shoplist (http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/bestelkosten/436710?tti=2&pti=10&minscore=&maxdelivery=&minproducts=4&maxshops=1#shoplist)
(scroll up a bit)
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: George on May 22, 2013, 19:54
It`s really good, i didn`t knew you can go up to 600e so that`s the best you can get in that money.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Hobo on May 22, 2013, 20:00
Quote from: Twido on May 22, 2013, 19:26
stop drooling on AMD please, get an intel
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Supreme on May 22, 2013, 20:03
Quote from: Hobo on May 22, 2013, 20:00
Quote from: Twido on May 22, 2013, 19:26
stop drooling on AMD please, get an intel


Please check this one out then :)


Quote from: Supreme on May 22, 2013, 19:34
thanks to iFrost, I am considering this, it's 30 euro more (when buying it), but worth it says Frost:


All items:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/bestelkosten/436710?tti=2&pti=10&minscore=&maxdelivery=&minproducts=4&maxshops=1#shoplist (http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/bestelkosten/436710?tti=2&pti=10&minscore=&maxdelivery=&minproducts=4&maxshops=1#shoplist)
(scroll up a bit)
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Hobo on May 22, 2013, 21:44
Quote from: Supreme on May 22, 2013, 20:03
Please check this one out then :)
Quote from: Supreme on May 22, 2013, 19:34
thanks to iFrost, I am considering this, it's 30 euro more (when buying it), but worth it says Frost:
All items:
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/bestelkosten/436710?tti=2&pti=10&minscore=&maxdelivery=&minproducts=4&maxshops=1#shoplist (http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/bestelkosten/436710?tti=2&pti=10&minscore=&maxdelivery=&minproducts=4&maxshops=1#shoplist)
(scroll up a bit)
That one looks yummy.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Supreme on May 23, 2013, 18:19
Decided to go somewhat cheaper, total price would be €640.


https://www.4launch.nl/shop/winkelwagen/34248 (https://www.4launch.nl/shop/winkelwagen/34248)


Now all I can hope prices will lower in 2 months  :)
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: iFrost on May 23, 2013, 22:07
Check back at me when you have the money and we'll see what we can upgrade ;)

I could've told you this over Xfire, but I want to feel special for helping you so I'm commenting here.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Ethan on May 24, 2013, 00:44
I dont know if it will be available or its a one time thing but... I searched for equivalent items at Newegg, and the total is about $800... man, I need to save up and make me a gaming rig, shit iz cheep now, I can afford it


http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view (http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view)
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Hobo on May 24, 2013, 01:05
Quote from: Ethan on May 24, 2013, 00:44
I dont know if it will be available or its a one time thing but... I searched for equivalent items at Newegg, and the total is about $800... man, I need to save up and make me a gaming rig, shit iz cheep now, I can afford it


http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view (http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view)

Quote from: NeweggNewegg.com does not ship internationally. We ship within the United States and to Puerto Rico and APO/FPO addresses only.
So Newegg wont be helpful to anyone outside the USA.
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: Ethan on May 24, 2013, 03:10
its equivalent parts, I did it to see for myself how much something like this would cost me
Title: Re: New laptop OR build pc + current laptop
Post by: SpazzBucket. on May 24, 2013, 20:42
Quote from: Hobo on May 24, 2013, 01:05
Quote from: Ethan on May 24, 2013, 00:44
I dont know if it will be available or its a one time thing but... I searched for equivalent items at Newegg, and the total is about $800... man, I need to save up and make me a gaming rig, shit iz cheep now, I can afford it


http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view (http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Submit=view)

Quote from: NeweggNewegg.com does not ship internationally. We ship within the United States and to Puerto Rico and APO/FPO addresses only.
So Newegg wont be helpful to anyone outside the USA.
:sadtroll: