Due to all the recent trolls and hate, we need to have some sort of clarification.
- It cannot be blocking when a player is on the sidewalk. BUT, it cannot be a sidewalk directed to an unload/load/ truck depot etc. See rule 6 of the road rules.
- Rules were written for road usage. Meaning that when there is no road, it is not blocking either. But blocking ACCESS points as in (hunter quarry) that have off road accesses is not allowed
- Ramming a player that stands on the sidewalk, is still intentional ramming.
- divebombing the persons will still be punishable by ban.
whether you like it or not, as STAFF we need to follow rules and guidelines, where would a server be if there would be a staff team that does what they feel like.
I cannot imagine this will happen daily, as it just happened twice to make a statement. I and other admins udnerstand that the feeling you have in this situation could be desribed as, unfair, lame, fucked up etc. But we cannot change rules or situations where rules are in the favour of this player.
As player, i understand everyone of you, but as admin and moderators, we cannot go and make our own rules.
so i think its kinda with camping cops at unloads, dont like it, dont do it: dont like the fact shortcuts are blocked off, use the road, but in no situation ram or divebomb.
all situations apply when player is ON the sidewalk.
But to share yoru grief, lets say, player MUST BE AFK or shortly idle on the sidewalk, intentionally fucking up the fun of others by blocking them for minutes can be seen as punisheable.So i made this one exception to stop this fucked up situation.
**************************EXAMPLE************
ALLOWED:[xfire]http://www.xfire.com/videos/5f10b2[/xfire] (http://www.xfire.com/videos/5f10b2)
No intention to block anyone, just standing there being idle/afk or typing.
NOT ALLOWED:[xfire]http://www.xfire.com/videos/5f10b3[/xfire] (http://www.xfire.com/videos/5f10b3)
Clearly an intention to block players = warnable etc
But what vikingo does here is also warnable, since its intentional ramming.
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SO do never ram, and if this person is intentionally blocking you, it IS breaking rules.
(http://i.imgur.com/5Sv1h3km.jpg)
Is it now so hard to understand what ramming is and what isn't? .... ::)
Also, this happend only because of this:
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,36987.0.html
We have got those fences there for weeks .. what am I saying? Months... noting happend and now because of that everyone starts hating and having questions what is ramming and what isn't? ...
This is sick ... :-\
Quote from: TheGame on April 07, 2013, 14:43
(http://i.imgur.com/5Sv1h3km.jpg)
Is it now so hard to understand what ramming is and what isn't? .... ::)
Also, this happend only because of this:
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,36987.0.html (http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,36987.0.html)
We have got those fences there for weeks .. what am I saying? Months... noting happend and now because of that everyone starts hating and having questions what is ramming and what isn't? ...
This is sick ... :-\
sick pretty much describes it all:D
anyway im locking this so that another flame topic against admisn wont happen, because we werent even online but got all the blame of it while we obviously know what the rules say.
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Unlocked since there is now a clear motivation and example of what is allowed and not ( see vids above)
Allowed or not to stay there they should avoid taht area , since is a short-cut for the Highway , also people should have more brains and not be such dumbasses . I've sat Nash pics , and when he was asked to move he should did so .
Here's a various amount of rams/blocks in one album, shall sort them into inviduals later or tuesday..
Many of the images where mainly about things said in chat because the amount of flaming was crazy!
[imgur]http://imgur.com/a/6OEwC[/imgur]
But my main point to this is not the blocking or ramming, its the amount of flamming and comotion it causes!
Quote from: Rockey on April 07, 2013, 18:09
Here's a various amount of rams/blocks in one album, shall sort them into inviduals later or tuesday..
Many of the images where mainly about things said in chat because the amount of flaming was crazy!
[hide=imgur][imgur]http://imgur.com/a/6OEwC[/imgur][/hide]
But my main point to this is not the blocking or ramming, its the amount of flamming and comotion it causes!
Most of the times I was in that album I was dead :D
so people are still being stupid about childish crap, or was that from the other day?
Quote from: Ethan on April 07, 2013, 18:17
so people are still being stupid about childish crap, or was that from the other day?
now its clear whats allowed and not, if they fuck up, it not our fault.
:)
Why not just put a fence there, problem solved?
Quote from: Supreme on April 07, 2013, 18:20
Why not just put a fence there, problem solved?
That requires mick:d
Quote from: Konali on April 07, 2013, 18:23
Quote from: Supreme on April 07, 2013, 18:20
Why not just put a fence there, problem solved?
That requires mick:d
Doesnt he release the mapping to the relevant people? :) who mapped the fence in the first place?
Quote from: Dobby on April 07, 2013, 18:29
Quote from: Konali on April 07, 2013, 18:23
Quote from: Supreme on April 07, 2013, 18:20
Why not just put a fence there, problem solved?
That requires mick:d
Doesnt he release the mapping to the relevant people? :) who mapped the fence in the first place?
Mick himself.
Quote from: Joshy on April 07, 2013, 18:15
Quote from: Rockey on April 07, 2013, 18:09
Here's a various amount of rams/blocks in one album, shall sort them into inviduals later or tuesday..
Many of the images where mainly about things said in chat because the amount of flaming was crazy!
[hide=imgur][imgur]http://imgur.com/a/6OEwC[/imgur][/hide]
But my main point to this is not the blocking or ramming, its the amount of flamming and comotion it causes!
Most of the times I was in that album I was dead :D
Never noticed that! :o
Quote from: brane on April 07, 2013, 19:46
Quote from: Dobby on April 07, 2013, 18:29
Quote from: Konali on April 07, 2013, 18:23
Quote from: Supreme on April 07, 2013, 18:20
Why not just put a fence there, problem solved?
That requires mick:d
Doesnt he release the mapping to the relevant people? :) who mapped the fence in the first place?
Mick himself.
Shoot him a quick email. Send him the X Y Z of the fence, go onto MTA or whatever, add the fence, and see if theres a way to add another barrier?
Quote from: Dobby on April 07, 2013, 19:49
Quote from: brane on April 07, 2013, 19:46
Quote from: Dobby on April 07, 2013, 18:29
Quote from: Konali on April 07, 2013, 18:23
Quote from: Supreme on April 07, 2013, 18:20
Why not just put a fence there, problem solved?
That requires mick:d
Doesnt he release the mapping to the relevant people? :) who mapped the fence in the first place?
Mick himself.
Shoot him a quick email. Send him the X Y Z of the fence, go onto MTA or whatever, add the fence, and see if theres a way to add another barrier?
I think when he sees all these topics, complains, rages and reports, he will do something. Add new rule, maybe removing whole the fence or adding one more piece. Let him decide.
True, oh and nice cookie amount ;)
Quote from: brane on April 07, 2013, 19:52
Quote from: Dobby on April 07, 2013, 19:49
Quote from: brane on April 07, 2013, 19:46
Quote from: Dobby on April 07, 2013, 18:29
Quote from: Konali on April 07, 2013, 18:23
Quote from: Supreme on April 07, 2013, 18:20
Why not just put a fence there, problem solved?
That requires mick:d
Doesnt he release the mapping to the relevant people? :) who mapped the fence in the first place?
Mick himself.
Shoot him a quick email. Send him the X Y Z of the fence, go onto MTA or whatever, add the fence, and see if theres a way to add another barrier?
I think when he sees all these topics, complains, rages and reports, he will do something. Add new rule, maybe removing whole the fence or adding one more piece. Let him decide.
Off topic : I like this piramide! :D
On Topic : Thank you Konali,some players just need to know that:|
Quote from: Agresiv on April 07, 2013, 22:38
Quote from: brane on April 07, 2013, 19:52
Quote from: Dobby on April 07, 2013, 19:49
Quote from: brane on April 07, 2013, 19:46
Quote from: Dobby on April 07, 2013, 18:29
Quote from: Konali on April 07, 2013, 18:23
Quote from: Supreme on April 07, 2013, 18:20
Why not just put a fence there, problem solved?
That requires mick:d
Doesnt he release the mapping to the relevant people? :) who mapped the fence in the first place?
Mick himself.
Shoot him a quick email. Send him the X Y Z of the fence, go onto MTA or whatever, add the fence, and see if theres a way to add another barrier?
I think when he sees all these topics, complains, rages and reports, he will do something. Add new rule, maybe removing whole the fence or adding one more piece. Let him decide.
Off topic : I like this piramide! :D
On Topic : Thank you Konali,some players just need to know that:|
ty :) but i didnt knew so many players did ram intentionally there XD they are just dumb... i mean, they are complaining about not following rules and blocking, what do they do themselves, they ram.... i mean.. fuck? xD
My advice is don't park where you may be blocking someone. An admin may give you a warn or kick if they see it as a blocking attempt.
Quote from: mick88 on April 07, 2013, 23:55
My advice is don't park where you may be blocking someone. An admin may give you a warn or kick if they see it as a blocking attempt.
lol that doesnt give too much information, you are leaving it open to staff team. :P
is that the point of your statement? :P
Quote from: mick88 on April 07, 2013, 23:55
My advice is don't park where you may be blocking someone. An admin may give you a warn or kick if they see it as a blocking attempt.
i don't think anything else should be said then this.. Mick said it cleary, don't park where you may be blocking someone and he clearly blocked
Yeah if that part is supposed to be blocked then that's Micks decision, and he will put fence. The players that were blocking there were having the arrogance to think that they have a right to dictate how the others players are supposed to play. And also about the staff i don't even want to talk. I lost my respect and positive opinion of most of them, luckily there are still awesome players who make it worth staying and make the game a great experience.
I dont see diffrence with these two videos, both are blocking the way..
Quote from: Barney_Ross on April 08, 2013, 12:00
I dont see diffrence with these two videos, both are blocking the way..
+1
And how are we or the moderators and admins supposed to determine if a person has been there for too long or not.... There will idiot's that will claim that they have only been there for about 1 minute or so and get away with having idled for ages.
Also this is a false report as he is blocking in this video he recorded http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,37177.msg209485.html#msg209485
Here also [size=78%]http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,37176.msg209497.html#msg209497 (http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,37176.msg209497.html#msg209497)[/size] and yet Ethan wrongly warned when Nash was clearly at keyboard therefore intentionally blocking and in all of his videos he is in the same car and aware of people coming towards him as he is moving his camera around freely.
Here also http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,37172.msg209460.html#msg209460.
Honestly all of his reports of ramming should be void and the people should be unwarned as he was intentionally blocking, if he was only idling for a few mins less then 2 or 3 mins he would not have gotten that much evidence in to report all of those people.
Quote from: Shane0 on April 08, 2013, 12:23
Quote from: Barney_Ross on April 08, 2013, 12:00
I dont see diffrence with these two videos, both are blocking the way..
+1
And how are we or the moderators and admins supposed to determine if a person has been there for too long or not.... There will idiot's that will claim that they have only been there for about 1 minute or so and get away with having idled for ages.
Also this is a false report as he is blocking in this video he recorded http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,37177.msg209485.html#msg209485 (http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,37177.msg209485.html#msg209485)
Here also [size=78%]http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,37176.msg209497.html#msg209497 (http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,37176.msg209497.html#msg209497)[/size] and yet Ethan wrongly warned when Nash was clearly at keyboard therefore intentionally blocking and in all of his videos he is in the same car and aware of people coming towards him as he is moving his camera around freely.
Here also http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,37172.msg209460.html#msg209460 (http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,37172.msg209460.html#msg209460).
Honestly all of his reports of ramming should be void and the people should be unwarned as he was intentionally blocking, if he was only idling for a few mins less then 2 or 3 mins he would not have gotten that much evidence in to report all of those people.
that last part, i suggested that, but TS said it is still intentional rammin no matter how you see it and on that i agree too.
Most of them have played here over 4 months so they should know the rules also.
Quote from: mick88 on April 07, 2013, 23:55
My advice is don't park where you may be blocking someone. An admin may give you a warn or kick if they see it as a blocking attempt.
The smartes thing, idk why other admisn don't think like you...
I warned nash for blocking, kicked him multiple times or i respawned him, he allways came back and blocked there and Konali and Ethan said that its ok...
Quote from: Mr.Benny on April 08, 2013, 15:38
Quote from: mick88 on April 07, 2013, 23:55
My advice is don't park where you may be blocking someone. An admin may give you a warn or kick if they see it as a blocking attempt.
The smartes thing, idk why other admisn don't think like you...
I warned nash for blocking, kicked him multiple times or i respawned him, he allways came back and blocked there and Konali and Ethan said that its ok...
If it's obvious that he is blocking intentionally and you have evidence I am hoping... that nothing more serious is done about him such as a 7day holiday..... he is the provoker.
Quote from: Shane0 on April 08, 2013, 16:18
Quote from: Mr.Benny on April 08, 2013, 15:38
Quote from: mick88 on April 07, 2013, 23:55
My advice is don't park where you may be blocking someone. An admin may give you a warn or kick if they see it as a blocking attempt.
The smartes thing, idk why other admisn don't think like you...
I warned nash for blocking, kicked him multiple times or i respawned him, he allways came back and blocked there and Konali and Ethan said that its ok...
If it's obvious that he is blocking intentionally and you have evidence I am hoping... that nothing more serious is done about him such as a 7day holiday..... he is the provoker.
haha
Quote from: O2D_Nash on April 08, 2013, 16:20
Quote from: Shane0 on April 08, 2013, 16:18
Quote from: Mr.Benny on April 08, 2013, 15:38
Quote from: mick88 on April 07, 2013, 23:55
My advice is don't park where you may be blocking someone. An admin may give you a warn or kick if they see it as a blocking attempt.
The smartes thing, idk why other admisn don't think like you...
I warned nash for blocking, kicked him multiple times or i respawned him, he allways came back and blocked there and Konali and Ethan said that its ok...
If it's obvious that he is blocking intentionally and you have evidence I am hoping... that nothing more serious is done about him such as a 7day holiday..... he is the provoker.
haha
"haha"? All you have to say is "haha"? I don't know why did i expect more from you.
Quote from: Sveki on April 08, 2013, 17:23
Quote from: O2D_Nash on April 08, 2013, 16:20
Quote from: Shane0 on April 08, 2013, 16:18
Quote from: Mr.Benny on April 08, 2013, 15:38
Quote from: mick88 on April 07, 2013, 23:55
My advice is don't park where you may be blocking someone. An admin may give you a warn or kick if they see it as a blocking attempt.
The smartes thing, idk why other admisn don't think like you...
I warned nash for blocking, kicked him multiple times or i respawned him, he allways came back and blocked there and Konali and Ethan said that its ok...
If it's obvious that he is blocking intentionally and you have evidence I am hoping... that nothing more serious is done about him such as a 7day holiday..... he is the provoker.
haha
"haha"? All you have to say is "haha"? I don't know why did i expect more from you.
i say haha cuz i find it fucking funny when you say im blocking and cry and you said "i would of kicked/banned him if i was ingame" you sure?
I dont know what you expect from SlenderMan (ex)... This guy is ridiculous.
Quote from: O2D_Nash on April 08, 2013, 17:29
Quote from: Sveki on April 08, 2013, 17:23
Quote from: O2D_Nash on April 08, 2013, 16:20
Quote from: Shane0 on April 08, 2013, 16:18
Quote from: Mr.Benny on April 08, 2013, 15:38
Quote from: mick88 on April 07, 2013, 23:55
My advice is don't park where you may be blocking someone. An admin may give you a warn or kick if they see it as a blocking attempt.
The smartes thing, idk why other admisn don't think like you...
I warned nash for blocking, kicked him multiple times or i respawned him, he allways came back and blocked there and Konali and Ethan said that its ok...
If it's obvious that he is blocking intentionally and you have evidence I am hoping... that nothing more serious is done about him such as a 7day holiday..... he is the provoker.
haha
"haha"? All you have to say is "haha"? I don't know why did i expect more from you.
i say haha cuz i find it fucking funny when you say im blocking and cry and you said "i would of kicked/banned him if i was ingame" you sure?
Before Konali cleared some things up for me, you bet i would. Basicly, you are exploiting a hole in the rules system just to annoy others, and that is pathetic. But keep in mind what mick said.
Quote from: Sveki on April 08, 2013, 17:36
Quote from: O2D_Nash on April 08, 2013, 17:29
Quote from: Sveki on April 08, 2013, 17:23
Quote from: O2D_Nash on April 08, 2013, 16:20
Quote from: Shane0 on April 08, 2013, 16:18
Quote from: Mr.Benny on April 08, 2013, 15:38
Quote from: mick88 on April 07, 2013, 23:55
My advice is don't park where you may be blocking someone. An admin may give you a warn or kick if they see it as a blocking attempt.
The smartes thing, idk why other admisn don't think like you...
I warned nash for blocking, kicked him multiple times or i respawned him, he allways came back and blocked there and Konali and Ethan said that its ok...
If it's obvious that he is blocking intentionally and you have evidence I am hoping... that nothing more serious is done about him such as a 7day holiday..... he is the provoker.
haha
"haha"? All you have to say is "haha"? I don't know why did i expect more from you.
i say haha cuz i find it fucking funny when you say im blocking and cry and you said "i would of kicked/banned him if i was ingame" you sure?
Before Konali cleared some things up for me, you bet i would. Basicly, you are exploiting a hole in the rules system just to annoy others, and that is pathetic. But keep in mind what mick said.
annoy others? wrong there annoyed them self's
and i know what mick said
nash was told not to do this again yesterday, but players also shouldnt break rules themselves and ram intentionally, that is just as bad. I mean, there would be no valid reason to ram anyone right.
Anyway if nash does this again, he breaks a rule. Because an Admin asked him to stop with it, he should respect that and listen to that, if he thinks that request was not valid he can make a complaint.
Anyway i am sure nash wont do it again, like others wont ram players intentionally that are just standing still.
Quote from: Konali on April 08, 2013, 18:53
nash was told not to do this again yesterday, but players also shouldnt break rules themselves and ram intentionally, that is just as bad. I mean, there would be no valid reason to ram anyone right.
Anyway if nash does this again, he breaks a rule. Because an Admin asked him to stop with it, he should respect that and listen to that, if he thinks that request was not valid he can make a complaint.
Anyway i am sure nash wont do it again, like others wont ram players intentionally that are just standing still.
might as well lock this now :) all there going to did is rage here
Quote from: Konali on April 08, 2013, 18:53
nash was told not to do this again yesterday, but players also shouldnt break rules themselves and ram intentionally, that is just as bad. I mean, there would be no valid reason to ram anyone right.
Anyway if nash does this again, he breaks a rule. Because an Admin asked him to stop with it, he should respect that and listen to that, if he thinks that request was not valid he can make a complaint.
Anyway i am sure nash wont do it again, like others wont ram players intentionally that are just standing still.
You can be guranteed if nash is there doing nothing regardless if he is supposively afk or not I will CC ram him if no admin responds and does their job if one is online :)
Quote from: Shane0 on April 08, 2013, 19:45
Quote from: Konali on April 08, 2013, 18:53
nash was told not to do this again yesterday, but players also shouldnt break rules themselves and ram intentionally, that is just as bad. I mean, there would be no valid reason to ram anyone right.
Anyway if nash does this again, he breaks a rule. Because an Admin asked him to stop with it, he should respect that and listen to that, if he thinks that request was not valid he can make a complaint.
Anyway i am sure nash wont do it again, like others wont ram players intentionally that are just standing still.
You can be guranteed if nash is there doing nothing regardless if he is supposively afk or not I will CC ram him if no admin responds and does their job if one is online :)
ready and waiting
Quote from: Konali on April 08, 2013, 18:53
nash was told not to do this again yesterday, but players also shouldnt break rules themselves and ram intentionally, that is just as bad. I mean, there would be no valid reason to ram anyone right.
Anyway if nash does this again, he breaks a rule. Because an Admin asked him to stop with it, he should respect that and listen to that, if he thinks that request was not valid he can make a complaint.
Anyway i am sure nash wont do it again, like others wont ram players intentionally that are just standing still.
What about the people who got warned because of him?
Quote from: Trux on April 08, 2013, 20:28
Quote from: Konali on April 08, 2013, 18:53
nash was told not to do this again yesterday, but players also shouldnt break rules themselves and ram intentionally, that is just as bad. I mean, there would be no valid reason to ram anyone right.
Anyway if nash does this again, he breaks a rule. Because an Admin asked him to stop with it, he should respect that and listen to that, if he thinks that request was not valid he can make a complaint.
Anyway i am sure nash wont do it again, like others wont ram players intentionally that are just standing still.
What about the people who got warned because of him?
the ones that rammed me for no reason?
Quote from: O2D_Nash on April 08, 2013, 21:29
Quote from: Trux on April 08, 2013, 20:28
Quote from: Konali on April 08, 2013, 18:53
nash was told not to do this again yesterday, but players also shouldnt break rules themselves and ram intentionally, that is just as bad. I mean, there would be no valid reason to ram anyone right.
Anyway if nash does this again, he breaks a rule. Because an Admin asked him to stop with it, he should respect that and listen to that, if he thinks that request was not valid he can make a complaint.
Anyway i am sure nash wont do it again, like others wont ram players intentionally that are just standing still.
What about the people who got warned because of him?
the ones that rammed me for no reason?
The ones you blocked for no reason I'd say.
This issue is miniscule compared to real reports and something worth reporting about, yes I'm against players blocking the shortcut because it is obvious they are intentionally stopped there. My whole summary of this is that it is a tiny microscopic issue and you guys have blown it WAAAAYYYYYYYYY out of proportion by starting this flame war and copying Joro blocking the shortcut