After the movement of server , i have seen an issue .
I have problems with playing . Server "ping" is high + much members that are playing causing major lag , makes the server unplayable .
Idk if this is only my problem , because i have not been interfaced with a issue like this before .
It maybe is lag because of the position of the hosting but it can be lag because of the low company stats ...
You maybe move server in french hosting , i used to host my server there and it used to have DDoS protection and low ping ..
Regards ..
Im in the UK, before i had 30ping now its around 200+
Here we go again... As mentioned before, the ping is higher to all players yes, BUT everyone can play without any problems. If it's lag you have, it's your problem. I used to have 60 ping, I now have 200+ and it makes no difference at all. The server in Arizona is pretty good, with DDoS protection and all, and you should be happy that you can play.
I am happy that i can play but my PC is 7 years old , and not all people got a good PC to play GTA SA .
Even when server was good i had a lil bit of lag , but this is making me harder to play on server . I used to have 120 ping to the server but now it goes 200+ and i had to be kicked 2 times because of high ping ...
Well, when i first heard about server's moving to Arizona i was unpleasantly surprised. But after i played a bit, i can say that everything is just ok. True, my ping has jumped from 50-60 to 200, but it doesnt make much of a difference, except that server seems much more stable. It sounds much worse then it really is. :)
We'll see how is the server going to be in the next few weeks.
Ping doesnt make any difference to this since this is not a deathmatch server, packetloss does.
This host doesnt have any packetloss. Its your ISP that is having problems.
Also i been on this server 3 years with 300 ping, and never got kicked for high ping and never been warned for ramming or whatever related to lag. Its not an issue.
If everyone follows the following rule, lag wouldn't really be a huge problem as Matias said: it's not a deathmatch server therefore latency will not be a huge issue.
QuoteKeep distance between you and truck in front of you - AT LEAST half length of full rig
Well, I do think this is an issue. I don't live on a farm, I don't have shitty ISP, but I get kicked every 5 minutes. My ping used to stay around 50 ms, now it never goes below 200, but I'd be already happy to have 200, my average is around 600. I'm happy for the server being stable and w/o packetloss and stuff, but I can't play this way. (True story, I never desynced during the total of ten minutes I managed to play.)
If the server location remains in the US, I (and maybe many non-american players without an ultra PC and 100/100 Mbps net) will be unhappy and feel ripped off. CVT has always been a European server, thus when every US player started to play on it, they knew what the European server location may mean to them, unlike the European players now that the server moved to its current location. Yes, 15 Mbps is maybe not enough for me to play CVT now, but it was until the server was on this side of the Atlantic.
And no, I really don't hate or have any negative feelings for US players, I just feel f****d now.
The server is more stable. And yes it is playable with 200 ping but I've still had many accidents because of lagg.
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Red dot is server location, blue dot is where I live.
Love the new server location. My ping is under 50.
But, to reiterate, ping doesnt mean shit in CVT. Its all about connection quality, which this box has, if you have a bad connection, it is on your end.
I think admins should lock every topic about high ping warnings. I personally like the server location. Whne the server moved, my ping did not move much. Just be glad that this server host has DDoS protection and that the server will not be going down anymore.
Quote from: Papa_John on December 23, 2012, 18:22
I think admins should lock every topic about high ping warnings. I personally like the server location. Whne the server moved, my ping did not move much. Just be glad that this server host has DDoS protection and that the server will not be going down anymore.
Nope they wont lock this topic because for some it is issue but for some others it is not even a problem .
ON TOPIC : Ok , as some said , i think it is mine issue , so i think i'm gonna reformat PC or put linux in it , idk ... whatever i'll do will make PC faster so ... i maybe be afk for a while ( 2-3 hours ) .
when the server is down people complain. when the server is moved people complain. not everyone is gonna be happy. but instead of complaining we can all be happy that atleast we are able to play. maybe raise the ping limit?
Quote from: X_Raided on December 23, 2012, 18:50
when the server is down people complain. when the server is moved people complain. not everyone is gonna be happy. but instead of complaining we can all be happy that atleast we are able to play. maybe raise the ping limit?
Ping limit has actually been raised to 1000.
Quote from: mick88 on December 23, 2012, 18:57
Quote from: X_Raided on December 23, 2012, 18:50
when the server is down people complain. when the server is moved people complain. not everyone is gonna be happy. but instead of complaining we can all be happy that atleast we are able to play. maybe raise the ping limit?
Ping limit has actually been raised to 1000.
That's too high in my opinion.
Quote from: tyler12 on December 23, 2012, 18:59
Quote from: mick88 on December 23, 2012, 18:57
Quote from: X_Raided on December 23, 2012, 18:50
when the server is down people complain. when the server is moved people complain. not everyone is gonna be happy. but instead of complaining we can all be happy that atleast we are able to play. maybe raise the ping limit?
Ping limit has actually been raised to 1000.
That's too high in my opinion.
+1 max 800.
Quote from: DJ_Smashon on December 23, 2012, 19:03
Quote from: tyler12 on December 23, 2012, 18:59
Quote from: mick88 on December 23, 2012, 18:57
Quote from: X_Raided on December 23, 2012, 18:50
when the server is down people complain. when the server is moved people complain. not everyone is gonna be happy. but instead of complaining we can all be happy that atleast we are able to play. maybe raise the ping limit?
Ping limit has actually been raised to 1000.
That's too high in my opinion.
+1 max 800.
+1
1000 ping limit is good, leave that decision alone.
1000 ping limit is ok, no one will get close to there anyways, you will get desynced before reach it.
Quote from: Matias. on December 23, 2012, 19:19
1000 ping limit is ok, no one will get close to there anyways, you will get desynced before reach it.
Well then it doesn't matter if it is 800 either...
Stop crying, you only need drive a truck, you dont need shot players.
Quote from: mick88 on December 23, 2012, 18:57
Quote from: X_Raided on December 23, 2012, 18:50
when the server is down people complain. when the server is moved people complain. not everyone is gonna be happy. but instead of complaining we can all be happy that atleast we are able to play. maybe raise the ping limit?
Ping limit has actually been raised to 1000.
TheSandman saw it and thought it was accidentally put to 1000 so he set it back to 650.
On topic: I personally love the new server location, I have. Avg 60 ping but when it was in France and uk I had around 170-200 and I never complained, I love the new location, but I'm not one that's complaining "oh no my ping doesn't go below 200!" I had that when I was downloading torrents and only got ping kicked 3 or 4 times in the multiple times of downloading, I say, you wanna either play with low ping and have the server down for weeks cause of DDoS attacks or have a bit higher ping with DDoS protection
I have been on the server shortly and all i can add as constructive feedback is this:
Packetloss serverside: none - less = OK
Ping for NL/me :194 = OK because server has no packetloss
But, i saw alot of lagging trailers/trucks thus i can only imagine what will happen on the 5 hours of peak time during mid day till evening in the EU timezone.
But thats for another time to check that out.
For now the server is doing well, server time has to be adjusted still i believe, because when you log off it says 6 hours ago immediatly.
i hope it is only a joke ...
I do speak Turkish? I told 20x - tried a server from timo_cosi - the rest could have been clarified. now we have a server where almost all have a high-ping who had previously a low-ping.
it's no fun to play when the map in wet county does not load, you can not go to convoy and only sees people go in slow motion. now I stay offline until the ping has stabilized at maximum of 100. 300 or more is not acceptable - sry mick, but who will not hear must feel - and I have said 20x, take the server out of timo_cosi and talk with him Oo
in this sense, merry christmas -.-*
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ping is normal. my only issue that is starting to irritate me is the instantaneous packetloss when I connect.. whether 0.2 % or the 0.8% I usually get desynced right away. Ive even crashed on a few occasions just by entering a vehicle
Quote from: Ethan on December 24, 2012, 00:20
ping is normal. my only issue that is starting to irritate me is the instantaneous packetloss when I connect.. whether 0.2 % or the 0.8% I usually get desynced right away. Ive even crashed on a few occasions just by entering a vehicle
I think the packetloss is on your end Ethan not server.
Quote from: Shane0 on December 24, 2012, 01:27
Quote from: Ethan on December 24, 2012, 00:20
ping is normal. my only issue that is starting to irritate me is the instantaneous packetloss when I connect.. whether 0.2 % or the 0.8% I usually get desynced right away. Ive even crashed on a few occasions just by entering a vehicle
I think the packetloss is on your end Ethan not server.
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Its good ping limit is 1000, sometimes my ping just fluctuates to higher time (normally its 300-400), I live in India, arizona is too far, I have high speed internet but still my ping is high, but packetloss is 0.0% so I think 1 second is not a big deal.
1 second = 1000 milli seconds which is the ping limit.
The only thing I hope is.. that we won't start falling into water on WC because of high pings in EU Peak Time :o
I would like to ask why everyone is complaining that their ping is over 200? Myself, Sandman and others have dealt with it fine for 2+ years now, so why cant you?
I've never ever had any packetloss.
for me the roads disappear from a 120 ping.
since the 300 ping nu will be no different.
I want to test it not at first
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Greetz, Marcel
Quote from: R16RACA on December 24, 2012, 09:49
I would like to ask why everyone is complaining that their ping is over 200? Myself, Sandman and others have dealt with it fine for 2+ years now, so why cant you?
Maybe not you, but TheSandman complained alot when he had high ping, so its only fair to other players if they can complain now ok.
I really only complained when i had more than 400 ping, because then it was shitty being staff. But having 300 is fine, i almost never complained then.
But i know how the Euros feel after having the server in Europe for so long.
Quote from: TheSandman on December 24, 2012, 14:52
But i know how the Euros feel after having the server in Europe for so long.
3yrs almost :o some of them wont continue playing coz of this ping :o
Quote from: $nake on December 24, 2012, 14:59
Quote from: TheSandman on December 24, 2012, 14:52
But i know how the Euros feel after having the server in Europe for so long.
3yrs almost :o some of them wont continue playing coz of this ping :o
200 ping will make u stop playing? bitch please
Quote from: SzajmoN on December 24, 2012, 15:15
200 ping will make u stop playing? bitch please
200 for those with pro pc and pro internet connection. 1% of the players have these, do you really think $nake was speaking about them? All others have much more than 200 ms ping...
Lowest I am getting is like 210 and highest about 300 but normally ~220 or ~250. Depends on if its many users using the internet(my ISP).
part#2 of my feedback on this matter
During peak hours, not even when its filled totally ( 80 players) alot of players experience massive till medium lag spikes.
Little packetloss on the serverside during these hours is what i noticed , compared to 30 players at 4AM( dont ask me why i was online at 4Am lol).
Overall conclusion:
It is good that the server has DDos protection now. I dont have a problem with my ping increase of ~150ms but i noticed that since the overall ping from the server has increased from ~80 to ~180 things have become more laggy than usual. Due to this increase , doing large convoys has become a risky business. And when those convoy players have mods installed which is likely to assume, it can be even worse.
As admin/staff side: Commands/actions are working fine, but speccing and retrieving player info/stats has become slower. It is doable only when the server has less till no packetloss.
Basicly: If you live close enough and have decent internet + a decent pc it is doable. But overall the fun of doing convoys together will only become less i am affraid and thats a shame.
Konali
So far I only got to test the server with my 2007 laptop that hardly runs San Andreas, and mobile Internet connection. It was fine, despite 250 ping, zero packet loss. I will do more testing when I'm home, and if connection from Europe isn't reliable enough for convoys, we will transfer to France for as long as there's no attacks.
Quote from: mick88 on December 24, 2012, 16:56
So far I only got to test the server with my 2007 laptop that hardly runs San Andreas, and mobile Internet connection. It was fine, despite 250 ping, zero packet loss. I will do more testing when I'm home, and if connection from Europe isn't reliable enough for convoys, we will transfer to France for as long as there's no attacks.
Look dont get me wrong, i love thos host location because i think it will have a great uptime, but this is convoy trucking see, and if alot of players do not experience fun to convoy anymore because its laggy and you might be fixing alot due to lagg hits, it takes away the fun and the purpose of having a convoy server see.
Anyway, every player experiences things differently, and it depends on specs of your pc to offcourse and your internet connection. Anyway good work its up again in xmas time, we missed alot of days already:)
What if us "American Players" and aussies doesnt experience a good playing when server is at europe? Thats the same you are saying right now, everyone should feel right when playing here. It takes the fun away play on CT with 400 ping, and you guys cry for 200 ping, i have the same ping you guys have at Arizona server since im at same distance, im from South America, i dont care if server moves but now the experience is much better than before and its worthly do convoys now since there is no lag.
And dont come to me with comments like "you accepted this was an europe server.." i know i did but i never complained when i got over 400 ping, now you guys complain for having 200 ping ....
We are players ALSO and we should feel good when playing here.
I can't even play, getting ping kicked :(
Im loving the new server location!
I went from 80 to 200 in ping, but what the hell does it matter when it is no lag, only smooth gameplay.
It hasnt been online long in Arizona, but it has been very stable, so I love it :)
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Ping does not make your game to lag.
Ping is time (miliseconds) how much it takes from your computer send signal to server and get it back. With the bigger ping you have to wait longer time to Load/Unload. Worse thing is flying over mapped areas, because it takes much more time to load buldings, trees and shit...
The majority of players are from Europe so I think server must be used in Europe too
:OK:
Quote from: Matias. on December 24, 2012, 17:20
What if us "American Players" and aussies doesnt experience a good playing when server is at europe?
If you haven't noticed so is most of the players from europe which means its better if server is hosted from europe. Then only a few players will have lagg. Beacuse when server was in europe and you opened scoreboard you saw that most of the players had around ~100. But when you open it now you'll see that most players have ~200/~250. And as Konali said it's
Convoy Trucking, it's funnier to do "unlaggy" convoys.
You take this very personally matias. remember that everyone is allowed to have an opinion, it seems you dont allow other to voice out their opinions.
Who are you to say someone that he is lying? Experience is different for everyone, due to PC / Internet connection / mods and distance to the server host location. Please remember that what might be happening on your screen, does not happen on my or someone else his screen.
Keep it respectfull matias. Its a fact that there are more europeans in this server than others, but i never said we should move again. Neither did whitebear or others.
Quote from: DeHavilland on December 24, 2012, 17:48
I can't even play, getting ping kicked :(
Have you tried logging in on non peak hours?
As Konali and other European's said us "Aussies" did complain a fair bit about our ping because when we wanted to play in peak and yet we couldn't get a ping of under 380 and surely some percentage of packetloss but we accepted it because this is an awesome server and a great community....
We now have players fighting in Forum Shout box we now have people fighting in game all because of a STUPID PING....
As some players say now they dont have a problem with a 200-250 ping as others say they hate it and it's "unplayable" which is a load of bullshit because people play with 400 ping and 5% packetloss.
Australians now get a ping of 200-300
Europeans now are 200-350 (ping range)
Asians 200-250
Americans get it (under 100 to max 150) and that's the ones who aren't banned...
Now dont you see that everyone is happy (minus 3/4 Europeans) because the ping is balanced out for all
If laggy convoy's are a reason to switch back to France Server, then me having a ping over 400 means i resign and leave the server indefinitely.
Quote from: Kenworth on December 24, 2012, 20:48
If laggy convoy's are a reason to switch back to France Server, then me having a ping over 400 means i resign and leave the server indefinitely.
I hope the server will be moved back to france and your ass back to a normal player because i hate people doing blackmail on others.
Quote from: Terrorista310 on December 24, 2012, 20:55
Quote from: Kenworth on December 24, 2012, 20:48
If laggy convoy's are a reason to switch back to France Server, then me having a ping over 400 means i resign and leave the server indefinitely.
I hope the server will be moved back to france and your ass back to a normal player because i hate people doing blackmail on others.
say's the guy who's been banned 6 times in the last 3 months...
Quote from: Terrorista310 on December 24, 2012, 20:55
Quote from: Kenworth on December 24, 2012, 20:48
If laggy convoy's are a reason to switch back to France Server, then me having a ping over 400 means i resign and leave the server indefinitely.
I hope the server will be moved back to france and your ass back to a normal player because i hate people doing blackmail on others.
sorry, but lmao
Ok im kinda done with all the accusations against Europeans in general where basicly pretty most every Euro player here said the new location is good except for covoying at peak time.
from now on: Constructive feedback or you will get forum warned and your reply gets removed.
Me as many other players would love if server gets back to the same host it was before move it to UK, but the new host has no packetloss at all and thats the most import thing to value of it, so far i didnt kick anyone for packetloss since it changed to US, there are much less smokey reports, admin commands reacts much faster, and alot of stuff more.
But i dont like the fact you guys doesnt valorize the effort mick is doing right now to keep the server alive and you guys the only thing you care is to complain about a minor thing like ping. You gotta be happy that atleast you can play for free.
If it were me i would have closed it before move to UK.
just ask when is the new ip[ going to be posted or wher can i find it i still have the old ip
66.85.149.27:9500
Its fine for me, the only problem i have is, that my game freezes sometimes for a min or 2.
As I have told people in the server, I am from the UK and I'm loving the new server location (I like it even more than I did when it was in the UK). When it was in the UK, yes I had a lower ping but it felt so much more unstable and laggy. Since it has moved to the USA I havent noticed any lag and it just feels that much better. Personally I think it should just stay as it is. Any problems are down to the player.
Chris :)
Quote from: Konali on December 24, 2012, 20:44
Quote from: DeHavilland on December 24, 2012, 17:48
I can't even play, getting ping kicked :(
Have you tried logging in on non peak hours?
Yes tried, had 600+ and got kicked twice, I will get my normal internet back when I'm getting my other PC fixed
If this server stability that we are experiencing now cannot be reached using an EU server location, then I don't insist on moving back anymore. Players are more jumpy this way for sure (because of the ping), but at least I don't desync and get kicked.
I can't tell how is the server going to function in peak time (99 players) but when there is 60-70 people online, i got no packetloss and everything is just fine, despite the ping being around 200ms.
So far, so good. I hope it won't change for the worse.
I was in a convoy yesyerday, or the day before with Europeans and Americans, and there no noticeable lag, despite me probably having the highest ping. You just have to give a little more distance between other trucks.
When we were on European host, i could do /network, which displays the server network stats, (Much like F5, but for the server.) I would see aroung 3-5% packetloss total.
I did that here, in peak time, and saw 0.2%.
Haydz also told me that Pilots Life is also hosted in Arizona by Volthost, he says he has excellent uptime because its a server location that isnt as popular.
To Euro's getting kicked, the ping limit is at 1000, so its very lenient, try closing other internet programs, and/or restarting your modem, leaving it off for 5-10 minutes. It might give you a fresh connection to the US.
Quote from: R16RACA on December 24, 2012, 09:49
I would like to ask why everyone is complaining that their ping is over 200? Myself, Sandman and others have dealt with it fine for 2+ years now, so why cant you?
I completely agree with you.
I like the new location of the server, my ping <200 now :)) :))
I love this host location, i was downloading something whit 300kb/s+ and playing CT, and i had only 400 ping, and no lag, i played normally,
before when we were in Uk or in france, i couldn't play cause of hight ping and lag. I :3 Arizona! :3 USA :3
Quote from: Mr.Benny on December 27, 2012, 19:53
I love this host location, i was downloading something whit 300kb/s+ and playing CT, and i had only 400 ping, and no lag, i played normally,
before when we were in Uk or in france, i couldn't play cause of hight ping and lag. I :3 Arizona! :3 USA :3
/me no downloading at PS3: 210 ping
/me downloading at PS3: 210 ping o.o
Lol , i lock this . This is going to be more like a chat for players then disscusing about this lol .
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