I'd like to suggest a cop arresting system similar to the current thief system.
Cops should have to actually stop the suspect, go to their car and pull the person out (as if they were carjacking them) to arrest, not just ram once and spam the key "2".
The system works for thieves against security vans, this would make it fair.
It's not an RP server.. imo it won't pass.. but I am neutral.
+1 for lindsey
+10 since I play as a cop on an rp server
+100 because it's going to piss somebody off.
i kinda like this idea....it's slightly similar to old arrest system. +1
too realistic, -1
Would make cop more interesting, yet alot harder to get the achievement but maybe thats a good thing. Also would this be used on paying fines to, as that what make pulling over dangerous as there will be police walking to trucks and getting owned by passing trucks.
I wouldnt do that :biggrin:
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+1 that was fair :OK:
Great Idea. And to make it "FAIR" the thieves would have to sit and wait like Securicars to unload when stealing cars, robbing houses and stealing Securicars.
GREAT idea.
TK C:-)
What? Now it doesn't sound so great?
hasn't this been suggested numerous times before? :suspicious:
Quote from: Leoviz on July 31, 2012, 00:23
too realistic, -1
Almost everything here is realistic so why not. +1 Lindsey!
-1 gives slow writers more time to type /q out of the game
Quote from: deejayy2k on July 31, 2012, 09:20
-1 gives slow writers more time to type /q out of the game
If a suspect do /q,we can report him!
Anyway +1 Linds.I love this idea:)
+1..
NEVEEEER :female_rage:
This is convoy trucking but w/e I got cop achiev :P. But impossible with dumper/monster etc :biggrin:
-1 +1 = 0 Im neutral...
Quote from: DJ_Smashon on July 31, 2012, 10:21
This is convoy trucking but w/e I got cop achiev :P. But impossible with dumper/monster etc :biggrin:
-1 +1 = 0 Im neutral...
True, but still +1 to the idea
Hmmm......no. -1.
Quote from: deejayy2k on July 31, 2012, 09:20
-1 gives slow writers more time to type /q out of the game
Even I won't /q from cops if this is added. It would be fair and give thieves more chance to actually get away instead of being magically jailed in 2 seconds from 1 random crash.
Cops will have harder work, and we'll be able to see who the real cops are, not those who ram once and get lucky.
Thomas, I disagree with that system purely because if we can be arrested while we are waiting to unload, then securicars should be jackable while they are unloading.
I tried to, and I couldn't jack.
For those complaining, you must either suck at cop, or just want an easy job.
For those who say that my idea is too realistic. Then lets make it fair. Hijackers should just crash into securicars and spam "2" until they magically teleport into the van. Because that's the current equivalent of thieving v cops.
Quote from: Benny_Benassy on July 31, 2012, 08:46
Quote from: Leoviz on July 31, 2012, 00:23
too realistic, -1
Almost everything here is realistic so why not. +1 Lindsey!
Really Benny? Did you just call CT realistic? :seriously_guy:
-1 to this, but i agree that player should be fully stopped before arrest could be possible via the submission key.
Quote from: Lindsey on July 31, 2012, 11:42
Hijackers should just crash into securicars and spam "2" until they magically teleport into the van.
I want to see how someone delivers money with this system :biggrin:
+1 to the idea, but maybe only for securicar thiefs. Otherwise there would be like 5-10 random truckers who are suspects just for unpaid tickets.
thief skin people are still human, we as a money transport people, we ave ways to trick thief. Well they also have way to run away from cop -1
Securicars are slow. that make more easy to hijack them.
It will be impossible to arrest someone in a fast car. because the cop will not have time to reach the car...
Quote from: Smurf on August 01, 2012, 06:28
Securicars are slow. that make more easy to hijack them.
It will be impossible to arrest someone in a fast car. because the cop will not have time to reach the car...
Dafuq did i just read?
-1
Quote from: SzajmoN on August 01, 2012, 09:03
Quote from: Smurf on August 01, 2012, 06:28
Securicars are slow. that make more easy to hijack them.
It will be impossible to arrest someone in a fast car. because the cop will not have time to reach the car...
Dafuq did i just read?
The level of brain activity in those who are not supporting me.
YES! you would have even possibility to get away with linerunner!
How bout giving fines too. the suspect should be stopped or going below 10kph
Quote from: Vado19 on July 30, 2012, 23:13
i kinda like this idea....it's slightly similar to old arrest system. +1
this old system was best thingy ive ever seen here! soo.. +7
it would be impossible to stop a thief unless his car is broken down by ramming, and ramming isn't easy because of samp lags
Quote from: Deff on August 01, 2012, 17:18
it would be impossible to stop a thief unless his car is broken down by ramming, and ramming isn't easy because of samp lags
Why?? It's about team work or just to think how to ramm him better.
+10000000
Meeh. I dont really like this idea. Oh bollocks i cant choose. So its a 0 for me
-1, the thief system should be fixed, not the cop system. Cop system is fine as it is imo, maybe the range should be reduced a little bit but that's all.
I think the "1 star on attempted hijack" should be removed, then give armored van thieves around 20 seconds head start (it's like the armored van driver is calling 9-1-1 for police) unless they are in vicinity of police.
+100 Love your idea Lindsey <3
It will make it more realistic to!
If this suggestion would be done, everyone would just want to spawn to thief, and nobody wanted to spawn as cop. The example of securicars' hijacking system clearly shows what would happen: arresting would be almost impossible, only if ramming suspect till broken down (IMO over 90% of hijacking securicars happens via breaking it down). This is a trucking server, never forget about it.
(If reality is the target to reach, every suspect that finished his 'job' should remain suspect even if no police nearby...)
-1
Quote from: kukimaki on August 02, 2012, 07:45
If this suggestion would be done, everyone would just want to spawn to thief, and nobody wanted to spawn as cop. The example of securicars' hijacking system clearly shows what would happen: arresting would be almost impossible, only if ramming suspect till broken down (IMO over 90% of hijacking securicars happens via breaking it down). This is a trucking server, never forget about it.
(If reality is the target to reach, every suspect that finished his 'job' should remain suspect even if no police nearby...)
-1
But this is not RP server. And if we really would concentrate on trucking, there would be no other classes.
Also in real life police dont just throw you to jail from 20kph speed.
Quote from: Dr_dog on August 02, 2012, 08:48
Quote from: kukimaki on August 02, 2012, 07:45
If this suggestion would be done, everyone would just want to spawn to thief, and nobody wanted to spawn as cop. The example of securicars' hijacking system clearly shows what would happen: arresting would be almost impossible, only if ramming suspect till broken down (IMO over 90% of hijacking securicars happens via breaking it down). This is a trucking server, never forget about it.
(If reality is the target to reach, every suspect that finished his 'job' should remain suspect even if no police nearby...)
-1
But this is not RP server. And if we really would concentrate on trucking, there would be no other classes.
Also in real life police dont just throw you to jail from 20kph speed.
that's what annoys me so much, in some areas this server is realistic, and then in other areas it's downright unrealistic and unfair.
Lets have something that's a straight line for everyone, fair chance for all.
I've never known anyone to run a server, where one "class" is seriously undervalued, and almost cheated.
Mick thinks it's ok, he just tells people not to do it, yeah that's totally fixing the problem.
QuoteAlso in real life police dont just throw you to jail from 20kph speed.
No they don't, they lay down stop-sticks. Or PIT the vehicle. Neither of which works on CVT. In CVT a motorcycle can T-Bone a police cruiser and throw the cruiser across the map and keep driving. In RL ops can also stop crooks from hijacking armored cars. They don't have to follow until the armored car is stolen to take action. Impliment the new arrest system. But make the crooks have to sit at the unload for 10 seconds like securicars do.
You change the arrest system like you suggest, the cops will just have to ram them until they are disabled like the securicars and the crooks will still cry and whine about the cops. Then your just going to make it a demolition derby.
TK C:-)
I actually think you're just a lazy noob with this :
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But make the crooks have to sit at the unload for 10 seconds like securicars do.
You realise that as soon as securicars get to the unload they are safe?
THIEVES CAN NOT HIJACK SECURICARS IN UNLOAD.
Your idea sucks.
Yea sure, make the arrests harder. If a player is with boxburg/boxville in San Fierro he manages almost 80% to escape and complete the mission whithout any cop near him. After this suggestion cops should go after him, ramm him after his engine stops (which is even harder for cops, a lot of players have lag and that vehicles have good health) and then step out of vehicle and arrest him. Oh and let's not forget about the EXTREMELY short mission in San Fierro.
I think only the range of the arrest should be smaller.
-1 !
IDGAF if this will be added or not! :D +1 anyway
Quote from: StormBreaker on August 02, 2012, 15:08
Yea sure, make the arrests harder. If a player is with boxburg/boxville in San Fierro he manages almost 80% to escape and complete the mission whithout any cop near him. After this suggestion cops should go after him, ramm him after his engine stops (which is even harder for cops, a lot of players have lag and that vehicles have good health) and then step out of vehicle and arrest him. Oh and let's not forget about the EXTREMELY short mission in San Fierro.
I think only the range of the arrest should be smaller.
-1 !
You haven't even done thieving missions, so shut the fuck up.
Quote from: Lindsey on August 03, 2012, 13:56
Quote from: StormBreaker on August 02, 2012, 15:08
Yea sure, make the arrests harder. If a player is with boxburg/boxville in San Fierro he manages almost 80% to escape and complete the mission whithout any cop near him. After this suggestion cops should go after him, ramm him after his engine stops (which is even harder for cops, a lot of players have lag and that vehicles have good health) and then step out of vehicle and arrest him. Oh and let's not forget about the EXTREMELY short mission in San Fierro.
I think only the range of the arrest should be smaller.
-1 !
You haven't even done thieving missions, so shut the fuck up.
:lol:
Quote from: Lindsey on August 03, 2012, 13:56
You haven't even done thieving missions, so shut the fuck up.
The honest opinion of a true, loving Administrator. :) By the way, if I continue your way of thinking a few posts ago, those who suggest/support this idea either suck at hijacking armored vans, or wanna have a good point at you. :trollface:
Quote from: kukimaki on August 03, 2012, 15:14
Quote from: Lindsey on August 03, 2012, 13:56
You haven't even done thieving missions, so shut the fuck up.
The honest opinion of a true, loving Administrator. :) By the way, if I continue your way of thinking a few posts ago, those who suggest/support this idea either suck at hijacking armored vans, or wanna have a good point at you. :trollface:
It's my thread, I'll do as I wish. And for your information, I've managed for steal 9 armoured cars, and only been caught twice.
The problem is, most of the time I've got to avoid cops with /quitting the server because the vehicle won't start.
I don't see why the server can't heal the van automatically as soon as the thief jacks it.
Quote from: Lindsey on August 04, 2012, 11:24
Quote from: kukimaki on August 03, 2012, 15:14
Quote from: Lindsey on August 03, 2012, 13:56
You haven't even done thieving missions, so shut the fuck up.
The honest opinion of a true, loving Administrator. :) By the way, if I continue your way of thinking a few posts ago, those who suggest/support this idea either suck at hijacking armored vans, or wanna have a good point at you. :trollface:
I don't see why the server can't heal the van automatically as soon as the thief jacks it.
I like this idea, it's like in real life ;)
nice +1
-1111111111111111111 terrible idea
I always thought something similar to this would be cool because the way the cop system is now makes it a bit unfair for suspects. However, how would a cop arrest a suspect if they were on foot? Same as it is now or something different? Anyway i think it could work so +1 from me:)
so many replys (replies?).. but +1 :)
Quote from: Lindsey on August 02, 2012, 12:46
I actually think you're just a lazy noob with this :
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But make the crooks have to sit at the unload for 10 seconds like securicars do.
You realise that as soon as securicars get to the unload they are safe?
THIEVES CAN NOT HIJACK SECURICARS IN UNLOAD.
Your idea sucks.
Not everytime when a securicar reaches the unload, he's safe. The securicar has to be completely stopped to unload based on what I've experienced. And while i'm stopping, in the red marker, the thief robs my securicar. Then sometimes while I'm stopping, the thief rams me out of the unload and robs my van. But meh, the cops will eat his/her ass anyway.
Kinda neutral now seeing the balance between the systems
ok good idea BUT your for getting something... THE HELI... plus what happens when the sus gets out the car and runs like a chicken... and it wont be easy stoping a truck. your car will lose more health then the truck it self?
I have gave +1 to this suggestion already
But I give +1 to
SzajmoN - only for securicars, and +1 to
Joshy - thief system fix
What a pain in the ass. Have you seen the cops on truckmania? They ram you till no end, even for fines because they have to get out of the car. im sure this will end up causing more problems then its saving.
Cop cars have more HP than other cars, so, it's not so hard to broken down thief's car and arrest him as Lindsey suggested
Quote from: Razor1911 on August 18, 2012, 15:04
Cop cars have more HP than other cars, so, it's not so hard to broken down thief's car and arrest him as Lindsey suggested
Not fkin hard?
STORY: Cop with LVPD
Thief with infernus
The cop is trying to ramm the thief
The thief drivers with 303 km/h
How da fuq that cop is supposed to broken down thief's car?
Quote from: TupacShakur on August 18, 2012, 16:46
Quote from: Razor1911 on August 18, 2012, 15:04
Cop cars have more HP than other cars, so, it's not so hard to broken down thief's car and arrest him as Lindsey suggested
Not **** hard?
STORY: Cop with LVPD
Thief with infernus
The cop is trying to ramm the thief
The thief drivers with 303 km/h
How ** *** that cop is supposed to broken down thief's car?
There are not so much suspects with infernus. There are a lot of thieve with boxburg and securicars or other slowly cars.
Also, maybe fast cars which can be stolen can be revomed
Quote from: TupacShakur on August 18, 2012, 16:46
Quote from: Razor1911 on August 18, 2012, 15:04
Cop cars have more HP than other cars, so, it's not so hard to broken down thief's car and arrest him as Lindsey suggested
Not fkin hard?
STORY: Cop with LVPD
Thief with infernus
The cop is trying to ramm the thief
The thief drivers with 303 km/h
How da fuq that cop is supposed to broken down thief's car?
Hit them head on. Most times, it will throw the infernub into poor or wrecked conditions.
Quote from: Ephraim_Renais on August 18, 2012, 20:00
Quote from: TupacShakur on August 18, 2012, 16:46
Quote from: Razor1911 on August 18, 2012, 15:04
Cop cars have more HP than other cars, so, it's not so hard to broken down thief's car and arrest him as Lindsey suggested
Not fkin hard?
STORY: Cop with LVPD
Thief with infernus
The cop is trying to ramm the thief
The thief drivers with 303 km/h
How da fuq that cop is supposed to broken down thief's car?
Hit them head on. Most times, it will throw the infernub into poor or wrecked conditions.
unless theyre not stupid and know how to drive a infernus. Im pretty sure im the only one in the server that can actually drive one.
Are we still bitching about this? I have been arrested many times by this so called ''Poorly police system'' and you see me complain? No.
Quote from: RaceRX96 on August 18, 2012, 03:20
What a pain in the ass. Have you seen the cops on truckmania? They ram you till no end, even for fines because they have to get out of the car. im sure this will end up causing more problems then its saving.
Word! + if the wanted people are smart they can stop , do /repair , drive for like 14 seconds and stop again for the repair. That will end in chasing them for ages untill they get borred and quit , or let you bust them , the one that is now is good enough imo , Honesty if a cop will press 2 to pull over a truck for fines and then get down and get to the window to get the fine paid it will be cool enough. If the trucker will not stop in 3 secs , it will get wanted , but this could be abused , and the cops won't get to the window for the fine and the trucker will get wanted , so its a bad ideea too.
Anyway , its a -1 because here isn't such a big problem with the police system , mick should focus on other problems now.. BUT , its just my opinion.
Quote from: RaceRX96 on August 19, 2012, 20:36
Im pretty sure im the only one in the server that can actually drive one.
(http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/42/719/634798639221257881.jpg)
About this suggestion: mick already "fixed" thief hardness, now you unload in the near unloading point, and that's it, its cool now, more than 70% of the burglary's can complete their mission now, the securcar robbers only fail they mission because the securcar is hard to drive, and robbing cars, almost everyone robs fast cars and 60% of the car robbers complete their mission, this topic should be closed because the problem you are here complaining is already fixed.
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Quote from: Google on August 19, 2012, 22:47
Quote from: RaceRX96 on August 18, 2012, 03:20
What a pain in the ass. Have you seen the cops on truckmania? They ram you till no end, even for fines because they have to get out of the car. im sure this will end up causing more problems then its saving.
U know that thief cant call assistance on a stoled car? I think u dont.
Word! + if the wanted people are smart they can stop , do /repair , drive for like 14 seconds and stop again for the repair. That will end in chasing them for ages untill they get borred and quit , or let you bust them , the one that is now is good enough imo , Honesty if a cop will press 2 to pull over a truck for fines and then get down and get to the window to get the fine paid it will be cool enough. If the trucker will not stop in 3 secs , it will get wanted , but this could be abused , and the cops won't get to the window for the fine and the trucker will get wanted , so its a bad ideea too.
Anyway , its a -1 because here isn't such a big problem with the police system , mick should focus on other problems now.. BUT , its just my opinion.
U know that thief cant call assistance in a stoled car? I think u dont.
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Quote from: TupacShakur on August 21, 2012, 17:23
Quote from: Google on August 19, 2012, 22:47
Quote from: RaceRX96 on August 18, 2012, 03:20
What a pain in the ass. Have you seen the cops on truckmania? They ram you till no end, even for fines because they have to get out of the car. im sure this will end up causing more problems then its saving.
U know that thief cant call assistance on a stoled car? I think u dont.
Word! + if the wanted people are smart they can stop , do /repair , drive for like 14 seconds and stop again for the repair. That will end in chasing them for ages untill they get borred and quit , or let you bust them , the one that is now is good enough imo , Honesty if a cop will press 2 to pull over a truck for fines and then get down and get to the window to get the fine paid it will be cool enough. If the trucker will not stop in 3 secs , it will get wanted , but this could be abused , and the cops won't get to the window for the fine and the trucker will get wanted , so its a bad ideea too.
Anyway , its a -1 because here isn't such a big problem with the police system , mick should focus on other problems now.. BUT , its just my opinion.
U know that thief cant call assistance in a stoled car? I think u dont.
Not as thief but you can get wanted and just keep doing /fix