Hi, here's an idea that a lot of people would love to have it back. I mean car trading. Long time veh. trading has been removed due to the spam on the chat with 'sell roadtrain blah blah 150k' , so i have a great idea how to solve this problem so trading vehicles wouldn't bring any problems.
Usually when You advertise an club in main chat, You get warned for it. The same idea can be with car trading. If You advertise that You want to sell a car in main, You will just get warned. After some time people will stop advertising vehicles in main chat so the spam problem will be fixed.
Also, second idea is to create come trading /cbs so people who have something to sell or something to buy can just type it down there.
If someone doesn't like to read, the plan is:
1. Bring back car trading.
2. Warn for advertising car selling in main.
3. Create trading /cb's if You want to sell / buy a car.
Car trading is an awesome thing and the whole server want's it back.. why not give it a second shot? Thanks, Strato.
Please don't lock it..
very good,nice,osom,cool idea dude :)
a big +1 :)
+1 :OK:
Well, a big +1 from me, the car trading was very nice but mick said that he is not going to put it again...Its sad because it was nice, we lost a funny server part...
We know we want it all back but:
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,20.0.html (http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,20.0.html)
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Quote from: Marccc on March 25, 2012, 21:34
We know we want it all back but:
http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,20.0.html (http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,20.0.html)
I know but i feel like i NEED to try .
Big +1 .Add this back please .
I don't know about this much trading as it was not in my time, but I am sure it must be some unorganized method of trading for sure, that is why it must have been closed.
There should a proper system which should be fair. Otherwise I don't support this.
yes please!! +1
Quote from: Deff on March 25, 2012, 23:54
I don't know about this much trading as it was not in my time, but I am sure it must be some unorganized method of trading for sure, that is why it must have been closed.
There should a proper system which should be fair. Otherwise I don't support this.
I am willing to just simply warn every advertiser, even if its a small nonsense one, that way people will stop doing it and use the designated cb/pm
:)
+1 but.. I was suggesting a window for advertising, maybe it will be better to keep advertisers out of chat :P
Quote from: Konali on March 26, 2012, 00:27
Quote from: Deff on March 25, 2012, 23:54
I don't know about this much trading as it was not in my time, but I am sure it must be some unorganized method of trading for sure, that is why it must have been closed.
There should a proper system which should be fair. Otherwise I don't support this.
I am willing to just simply warn every advertiser, even if its a small nonsense one, that way people will stop doing it and use the designated cb/pm
:)
We got one admin on our side that two more to go
+1 Strato nice idea :DD
Add me too the list Shockwave.
I have never actually experienced car trading, i think it was removed just before i joined the server in Jan 2011.
IT could be like the time that mick enabled the ability to fine people in non-police vehicles, just a trial run. If people dont like it, remove it again simple.
I came after trading stopped, I remember reading the For Sale area on the forums were people were advertising cars for sale. I actualy think Trading would be great. Could run a car dealership :)
+1
from me +1 nice idea strato :P
Strato make a poll, and some one notify mick about this topic
Mick has a sensor in his brain that automaticly notifies him when there is a new topic on the forum. Mick is Big Brother, hes always watching.:)
It will not be re-added for the same reason it was removed.
Advertising still persisted despite warns. There was a forum board and CB radio channel dedicated to trading, but players ignored them and advertised in chat and /me regardless.
Before removing trading I announced in forum that if things don't change, it will be removed. Nothing changed and nothing will, so trading will not come back.
As you see, I did everything you suggested and even more trying to preserve this feature, which was a significant part of the server. But some players just disrespected that.
Let this be a lesson for you in the feature: if players keep abusing certain feature, it gets removed forever.
Quote from: mick88 on March 26, 2012, 14:24
It will not be re-added for the same reason it was removed.
Advertising still persisted despite warns. There was a forum board and CB radio channel dedicated to trading, but players ignored them and advertised in chat and /me regardless.
Before removing trading I announced in forum that if things don't change, it will be removed. Nothing changed and nothing will, so trading will not come back.
As you see, I did everything you suggested and even more trying to preserve this feature, which was a significant part of the server. But some players just disrespected that.
Let this be a lesson for you in the feature: if players keep abusing certain feature, it gets removed forever.
But why loyal players must be punished for things what noobs did? Server changed since that year, there are more responsable people and more mature.. if You will punish advertising by warn people will be scared and they would stop talking in the main chat. Trading cars is an amamazing thing and maybe that's the thing that's the thing that may change the server to even more perfect as it is now. Just give it a chance, let trading be on for a week, if You won't like the new thing remove it, if it Would be fine just let it be.
Quote from: Strato. on March 26, 2012, 15:11
Quote from: mick88 on March 26, 2012, 14:24
It will not be re-added for the same reason it was removed.
Advertising still persisted despite warns. There was a forum board and CB radio channel dedicated to trading, but players ignored them and advertised in chat and /me regardless.
Before removing trading I announced in forum that if things don't change, it will be removed. Nothing changed and nothing will, so trading will not come back.
As you see, I did everything you suggested and even more trying to preserve this feature, which was a significant part of the server. But some players just disrespected that.
Let this be a lesson for you in the feature: if players keep abusing certain feature, it gets removed forever.
But why loyal players must be punished for things what noobs did? Server changed since that year, there are more responsable people and more mature.. if You will punish advertising by warn people will be scared and they would stop talking in the main chat. Trading cars is an amamazing thing and maybe that's the thing that's the thing that may change the server to even more perfect as it is now. Just give it a chance, let trading be on for a week, if You won't like the new thing remove it, if it Would be fine just let it be.
I Think That we deserve one more chance?
-1
i say -1 becouse of the stupid advertising in the mainchat.. i'm 100% sure or maybe 1000% sure , that the mainchat is gonna be full like 'Selling Infernus for 400.000!!! , come buy!!! ' <--- i don't want this and hope its never gonna be added.
Quote from: twido on March 26, 2012, 17:06
-1
i say -1 becouse of the stupid advertising in the mainchat.. i'm 100% sure or maybe 1000% sure , that the mainchat is gonna be full like 'Selling Infernus for 400.000!!! , come buy!!! ' <--- i don't want this and hope its never gonna be added.
Twido stop being such a vaseline for Staff.. if You would read my suggestion You wouldn't mention about the spam.
strato as much as i want this back, Mick wont bring it back. give it up man.
Quote from: Geckco on March 26, 2012, 17:17
strato as much as i want this back, Mick wont bring it back. give it up man.
I never give up.
Quote from: Strato. on March 26, 2012, 17:15
Quote from: twido on March 26, 2012, 17:06
-1
i say -1 becouse of the stupid advertising in the mainchat.. i'm 100% sure or maybe 1000% sure , that the mainchat is gonna be full like 'Selling Infernus for 400.000!!! , come buy!!! ' <--- i don't want this and hope its never gonna be added.
Twido stop being such a vaseline for Staff.. if You would read my suggestion You wouldn't mention about the spam.
i'm just doing what you do :) your always negative about my suggestions so i just owned you back now and i still stay at my -1 cuz of the spams
Quote from: mick88 on March 26, 2012, 14:24
It will not be re-added for the same reason it was removed.
Advertising still persisted despite warns. There was a forum board and CB radio channel dedicated to trading, but players ignored them and advertised in chat and /me regardless.
Before removing trading I announced in forum that if things don't change, it will be removed. Nothing changed and nothing will, so trading will not come back.
As you see, I did everything you suggested and even more trying to preserve this feature, which was a significant part of the server. But some players just disrespected that.
Let this be a lesson for you in the feature: if players keep abusing certain feature, it gets removed forever.
I'd bet most of those players who abused it aren't even here still.
Life isn't fair, but this is in your hands mick, and i think we're being punished for something we didn't do.
Quote from: twido on March 26, 2012, 17:24
Quote from: Strato. on March 26, 2012, 17:15
Quote from: twido on March 26, 2012, 17:06
-1
i say -1 becouse of the stupid advertising in the mainchat.. i'm 100% sure or maybe 1000% sure , that the mainchat is gonna be full like 'Selling Infernus for 400.000!!! , come buy!!! ' <--- i don't want this and hope its never gonna be added.
Twido stop being such a vaseline for Staff.. if You would read my suggestion You wouldn't mention about the spam.
i'm just doing what you do :) your always negative about my suggestions so i just owned you back now and i still stay at my -1 cuz of the spams
Because anger is leading Your emotions. Just read first what i said, stop being a vaseline for staff and thinki with Your brain. Thanks
Quote from: twido on March 26, 2012, 17:06
-1
i say -1 becouse of the stupid advertising in the mainchat.. i'm 100% sure or maybe 1000% sure , that the mainchat is gonna be full like 'Selling Infernus for 400.000!!! , come buy!!! ' <--- i don't want this and hope its never gonna be added.
:gtfo: bitch!!!!!
if it would be added i would love to buy some elegyes with big odo ^^
And it would be like big odo cars would sell for less money :DD
Quote from: Lindsey on March 26, 2012, 17:25
Quote from: mick88 on March 26, 2012, 14:24
It will not be re-added for the same reason it was removed.
Advertising still persisted despite warns. There was a forum board and CB radio channel dedicated to trading, but players ignored them and advertised in chat and /me regardless.
Before removing trading I announced in forum that if things don't change, it will be removed. Nothing changed and nothing will, so trading will not come back.
As you see, I did everything you suggested and even more trying to preserve this feature, which was a significant part of the server. But some players just disrespected that.
Let this be a lesson for you in the feature: if players keep abusing certain feature, it gets removed forever.
I'd bet most of those players who abused it aren't even here still.
Life isn't fair, but this is in your hands mick, and i think we're being punished for something we didn't do.
Couldnt have said it better Cookie for you
Times has changed Staff is way more active compared to back then, people would not get away with it and eventually behave and have fun as it was meant to be. They are only asking for car trading:) not house trading:)
Not just more active, but i think more vigilant AND the proof is in the pudding, there are more staff.
;)
I agree with you lindsey, why people that use the Trading in the correct way need to have the same punishment?
Think about it mick...
Long post from me! But read it all if you are serious about trying to make this work...
Yes, it's unfortunate that there were people that ruined trading in the past, and unfortunate I wasn't around to see how this option operated. But there's something we're all overlooking. Now if, by some miracle, Mick did bring this back, there would still be advertising the trading of vehicles simply because not everyone reads the rules nor the forums so they would have no clue that it wasn't allowed because of this reason. To put it in the rules when you sign up, they probably still wouldn't read it.
So now if there was a way to bring it back there would have to be a pretty surefire way that it would work. Mick said that the abuse came from advertising in chat. The same thing happens with clubs though, and non english speaking so should Mick get rid of the club system as well because of this fact? No, because now most people do know how it works, given there's the odd time that someone might advertise it, but why does it work and why isn't there as many advertising for clubs?
I'll tell you, because there's a limit on creation of a club and by the time members are able to create a club, they usually know the rules that come with it's creation because they have to be, what, level 100 to create it? There is also now, a new feature added when trading wasn't available, and that's "Advertising Signs" as well as it's not against the rules to advertise on your welcome message your club. Now could vehicle trading come back if there was a specific level to be able to trade or sell your car with a system like this? Could be, but it would have to be monitored as well as set to a standard, like 100 points to be able to use the feature. With a cb channel for vehicle selling it might work, and with help of mods and admins they could help regulate the spamming of advertising as they do with other forms of advertising, like they do with clubs.
Mick, never say never my friend, because somethings don't work in the past does not mean it may not be fixed to work in the future. If there's a will, there is a way...
Quote from: mick88 on March 26, 2012, 14:24
It will not be re-added for the same reason it was removed.
... if players keep abusing certain feature, it gets removed forever.
theres your answer right there... so dont ask for it to be re-added and please dont reply back complainingabout how it should be back.. this topic should have been locked when the first mod saw it seeing how its on the list..
Quote from: Ethan on March 27, 2012, 00:43
Quote from: mick88 on March 26, 2012, 14:24
It will not be re-added for the same reason it was removed.
... if players keep abusing certain feature, it gets removed forever.
theres your answer right there... so dont ask for it to be re-added and please dont reply back complainingabout how it should be back.. this topic should have been locked when the first mod saw it seeing how its on the list..
No, You are not locking another good suggestion. I'm still keeping like other people to bring that back.
Quote from: Xero on March 26, 2012, 22:37
Long post from me! But read it all if you are serious about trying to make this work...
Yes, it's unfortunate that there were people that ruined trading in the past, and unfortunate I wasn't around to see how this option operated. But there's something we're all overlooking. Now if, by some miracle, Mick did bring this back, there would still be advertising the trading of vehicles simply because not everyone reads the rules nor the forums so they would have no clue that it wasn't allowed because of this reason. To put it in the rules when you sign up, they probably still wouldn't read it.
So now if there was a way to bring it back there would have to be a pretty surefire way that it would work. Mick said that the abuse came from advertising in chat. The same thing happens with clubs though, and non english speaking so should Mick get rid of the club system as well because of this fact? No, because now most people do know how it works, given there's the odd time that someone might advertise it, but why does it work and why isn't there as many advertising for clubs?
I'll tell you, because there's a limit on creation of a club and by the time members are able to create a club, they usually know the rules that come with it's creation because they have to be, what, level 100 to create it? There is also now, a new feature added when trading wasn't available, and that's "Advertising Signs" as well as it's not against the rules to advertise on your welcome message your club. Now could vehicle trading come back if there was a specific level to be able to trade or sell your car with a system like this? Could be, but it would have to be monitored as well as set to a standard, like 100 points to be able to use the feature. With a cb channel for vehicle selling it might work, and with help of mods and admins they could help regulate the spamming of advertising as they do with other forms of advertising, like they do with clubs.
Mick, never say never my friend, because somethings don't work in the past does not mean it may not be fixed to work in the future. If there's a will, there is a way...
Xero seed it all. If we all help out with this thing there would be less or non abuse. The system that Xero offered is pretty good, if u have to have 100 score to sell/trade cars then it will be less noob who will spam in the main chat and the own cb channel for call trading and selling + a forum board would reduce the spaming ingame. This could maybe work only if we all help out.
Quote from: Ethan on March 27, 2012, 00:43
Quote from: mick88 on March 26, 2012, 14:24
It will not be re-added for the same reason it was removed.
... if players keep abusing certain feature, it gets removed forever.
theres your answer right there... so dont ask for it to be re-added and please dont reply back complainingabout how it should be back.. this topic should have been locked when the first mod saw it seeing how its on the list..
Mick im sorry but i think its stupid to remove a feature cuze some noobs who dont read rules abuse it. It isnt fair to punish the whole server due noobs.
+1 a great idea
I'm only here since january. How did car trading work, and how was it abused?
The basic thing of car trading was that you could sell your vehicle to other players. So a really nice tuned car could be bought by you if you have the money and the slot. among house trading people started to advertise in main chat without using the forum board for it and using CB's.
One thing i know from mick is that he finds spam/advertising very very annoying. he even /clearchats when people GZ for a house xD
So mick gave all players a heads up on the forum that if people didnt showed better behaviour and stopped the spamming/advertising, house trading and car trading would be removed.
The thing here is, we are not asking for house trading, simply because thats not possible anymore because back then you could have multiple houses. But car trading had something special, when a player put a car up for sale it would stand at Wang Cars SF, and that looked really really awesome.
Another point of saying no could be that mick doesnt want players to earn money without working for it.Maybe its an idea to limit max sale prices as in: prices cant be 10% higher than car dealer price..
Anyway, i hope concept this gives a little image of how it was back then with this feature:)
Quote from: Konali on March 27, 2012, 22:20
The basic thing of car trading was that you could sell your vehicle to other players. So a really nice tuned car could be bought by you if you have the money and the slot. among house trading people started to advertise in main chat without using the forum board for it and using CB's.
One thing i know from mick is that he finds spam/advertising very very annoying. he even /clearchats when people GZ for a house xD
So mick gave all players a heads up on the forum that if people didnt showed better behaviour and stopped the spamming/advertising, house trading and car trading would be removed.
The thing here is, we are not asking for house trading, simply because thats not possible anymore because back then you could have multiple houses. But car trading had something special, when a player put a car up for sale it would stand at Wang Cars SF, and that looked really really awesome.
Another point of saying no could be that mick doesnt want players to earn money without working for it.Maybe its an idea to limit max sale prices as in: prices cant be 10% higher than car dealer price..
Anyway, i hope concept this gives a little image of how it was back then with this feature:)
That was a awesome feature, but cuze stupid players it got removed. And like u seed Konali House trading will never work agin, but the car trading is a cool thing that will contribute to the community. And thank u Strato for opening this topic
I don't feel like reading a bunch of text
Quote from: droctogonapus on March 28, 2012, 09:24
I don't feel like reading a bunch of text
Then :gtfo:
why not adding some limits ? :) like ... being able to buy/sell only 1 car per week :)
i imagine $nake waiting few months for getting rid of all his home carpark XD
Make a limit to car price and amount of selling per week/month
How about cars can only be sold via website. At a cost of say $5000 per vehicle, With a little thing that you have to tick saying I will not advertise my vehicle in game, If I do admins may remove the sale without a refund.
Quote from: Crimzz[UK] on March 28, 2012, 21:51
How about cars can only be sold via website. At a cost of say $5000 per vehicle, With a little thing that you have to tick saying I will not advertise my vehicle in game, If I do admins may remove the sale without a refund.
what a genius ! ... but ... doesnt take it a bit ... to script ? i mean ... mabye seller its on website and buyer IG ... how will they make the game connected live to site ...
or will it be only on the site ?
Crimzzz it's a great idea actually.. when You buy something from the website it will automaticly go to /mycars IG.
Simple addition to your suggestion.
If player A is on the server and uses the main chat to advertise the sale of a vehicle, the vehicle is removed from the server with no refund.
The player loses the vehicle completely, and gets no money.
That would be a big deterrent ;)
Quote from: Lindsey on March 29, 2012, 07:01
Simple addition to your suggestion.
If player A is on the server and uses the main chat to advertise the sale of a vehicle, the vehicle is removed from the server with no refund.
The player loses the vehicle completely, and gets no money.
That would be a big deterrent ;)
Thats wounder full, omg i love u lindsey. That way ppl would be to scared to even try to advertise their cars in main chat ;DD
Quote from: Konali on March 27, 2012, 22:20
The basic thing of car trading was that you could sell your vehicle to other players. So a really nice tuned car could be bought by you if you have the money and the slot. among house trading people started to advertise in main chat without using the forum board for it and using CB's.
One thing i know from mick is that he finds spam/advertising very very annoying. he even /clearchats when people GZ for a house xD
So mick gave all players a heads up on the forum that if people didnt showed better behaviour and stopped the spamming/advertising, house trading and car trading would be removed.
The thing here is, we are not asking for house trading, simply because thats not possible anymore because back then you could have multiple houses. But car trading had something special, when a player put a car up for sale it would stand at Wang Cars SF, and that looked really really awesome.
Another point of saying no could be that mick doesnt want players to earn money without working for it.Maybe its an idea to limit max sale prices as in: prices cant be 10% higher than car dealer price..
Anyway, i hope concept this gives a little image of how it was back then with this feature:)
Ah just like roleplay servers. Thanks for explaining :)
Well that could be a good feature, but it also might be a bit unfair to other players if they advertise it in certain CB's
+1 Lindsey nice idea ;D
Thanks ;)
Lindsey i will give u a cookie for every great thing u say :DDD
Lol I'm not that good :D I just think of as much as possible.
Quote from: Lindsey on March 30, 2012, 16:06
Lol I'm not that good :D I just think of as much as possible.
And u are good at it
Why not make a ''bid place'' at forum?
example:
I want to sell my Bullet.
I go to forum, make a new topic at the bid place and add a prize.
People can make their own bid on the car and the highest bid gets it, as long as the owner the offer accept.
No worries about spamming, advertising etc... IG.
Problem solved.
Quote from: TheGame on March 30, 2012, 17:31
Why not make a ''bid place'' at forum?
example:
I want to sell my Bullet.
I go to forum, make a new topic at the bid place and add a prize.
People can make their own bid on the car and the highest bid gets it, as long as the owner the offer accept.
No worries about spamming, advertising etc... IG.
Problem solved.
+1 TheGame
We had a forum child board back then for trading. but most people spammed it in the main chat IG.
Why don't u do it like that: U have for example a RT and want to sell it to any player. U drive it to the Truck dealer and there is a Parking for the Vehicles they sell. There u park the Truck and it's for sale for other Players.
P.S. I hope u understand it :3
Quote from: TheSantaBoy on March 30, 2012, 18:30
Why don't u do it like that: U have for example a RT and want to sell it to any player. U drive it to the Truck dealer and there is a Parking for the Vehicles they sell. There u park the Truck and it's for sale for other Players.
P.S. I hope u understand it :3
Wasnt it like that at the 1st place?
Great idea!!!
Quote from: TheSantaBoy on March 30, 2012, 18:30
Why don't u do it like that: U have for example a RT and want to sell it to any player. U drive it to the Truck dealer and there is a Parking for the Vehicles they sell. There u park the Truck and it's for sale for other Players.
P.S. I hope u understand it :3
So you sell your car towards the dealer and you get cash when another player busy it? or does the dealer gives you cash for it.?
Back then players put their cars /forsale and then it would turn up at wang cars ( or it had to be parked there)/
It will be at the Dealer. U park it there, do for example /forsale in the car and then other players will see what is better for them.
it's a great iddea
Actually guys i thought a little bit about that idea and i'm starting to think that it's not really needed.. mick said already No so his reason and arguments are strong + it's his server and his decission. Thank You for supporting this but I have to lock this, thank You once again.