Alrighty guys, this is something that I've been thinking about for some time now. I've been running the thought of quitting over and over again in my head. I just haven't because I still enjoy playing. Part of the reason I've been thinking about quitting is because of you guys. Let me go into detail.
CT was designed for everyone to have fun and play around, whether they convoyed or performed one of the missions or even just derped around was completely up to them. But, lately the attitudes and conversations have just started to become exactly what mick wants to avoid: people trolling, disrespecting others, acting childish, etc. I'm not trying to say fix this or fix that. I just want to address it for everyone to read (although fixing it would be great)
I'm going to take Katelyn for example:
Quote from: kbwakeskate on March 05, 2014, 16:06
Hey guys. Well I havent even been bothered to go on the server because lately all of the bullshit and drama all of you children cause has disrupted my love for the server and the people here
No wonder she quit. The way you people act has caused one of the few players I actually enjoyed to talk to leave.
Ethan is always getting attacked by people who don't like him (yes I'm on his side). Just for some of the smallest screw ups he is attacked by someone, or he is told to go to fucking hell (saw it in the Shoutbox today). What bothers me the most is that there is never any reason behind any of this.
All I'm trying to say is that we should set aside our differences and try to fix all of this. CT is supposed and used to be a place of fun, but it has turned into a place where people act childish and only care for themselves. So, please, if you will, try to fix these things for CT and the community.
CT will rise up again, to be great, to be the best!
I feel the same way about it. I barely talk in game now because of the people. Yes im gonna take Ethans side on this. Everyone makes mistakes why do you go out on him. Other admins make mistakes even you players who judge him make mistakes. Like seriously grow up. I feel like the admins are playing daycare on the server. All the trolls used to be good players I loved them but they turned for the worst for who knows why. If CT went back to the way it was a year ago before my ban, I would play alot more but now I dont even think its worth staying anymore.
People do make mistakes, but when you make mistakes all the time there's a problem. Just so we're clear, Ethan pulled the "Go to fucking hell" card first.
Anyway, in order for this topic to not be locked because truth hurts:
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 01:57
CT was designed for everyone to have fun and play around
The server is 4 years old. It's getting boring. There are other games to play. People play other, more modern games.
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 01:57
But, lately the attitudes and conversations have just started to become exactly what mick wants to avoid: people trolling, disrespecting others, acting childish, etc. I'm not trying to say fix this or fix that. I just want to address it for everyone to read (although fixing it would be great)
You won't be able to fix this when we have certain staff members who target players. Do not tell me that this is bullshit. I've seen the staff section.
I'm in no way saying all staff members are bad. Almost all of them are awesome but it only takes one, or two, rotten apples to fuck up the entire bag full.
Quote from: Hobo on March 10, 2014, 02:29
but it only takes one, or two, rotten apples to fuck up the entire bag full.
And apparently those bad staff have the most power here.
#eadaf
we need konali in the place of mick, but i guess its too late
Quote from: Terrorista310 on March 10, 2014, 04:02
we need konali in the place of mick, but i guess its too late
i disagree. joshy would be my choice. I didnt like konali as an admin. personal opinions.
I have to agree 100% with you Emily
At times I feel like I get attacked from players cause of other mods fuckups and making us look bad.
However most of us get our jobs done as best as we can and the community shouldn't need to be as bad as it is at the moment.
Hopefully when the server is back online people might stop whinging about lag and stop abusing each other.
Quote from: Shane0 on March 10, 2014, 07:10
At times I feel like I get attacked from players cause of other mods fuckups and making us look bad.
Same thing happened when I was staff. I do not miss it.
About Ethan being attacked: Yes he is being attacked and all the mistakes he did are brought up everytime. BUT He should stay calm and stay cool. He gets pissed of very easyly and make bad decisions. Stay cool ethan.
Some staff not gonna name them take their duty too seriously, its a game c'mon let players have fun. And when you are not in good mood its better to not do mod duty, let other staff member handle it.
Its a game afterall.
Some players are also ruining the community..Idk whats their problem, they just create problem and find mistakes of staff all the time. I'd like to request them not to create trouble.
But we are not loosing players because of this, the game is old, server is 4 year old its getting boring we need something new. There are awesome games out there so its naturally ppl will play them and leave SA. And players are getting old :P they have collage/ jobs and dont get much time as they used to.
At last we must work together and help server to recover and make it popular and fun to play.
I am at nobody side. I am giving my opinion as a normal player.
Wow such off topic... Anyway half the crap that's brought up: Ethan being attacked and all the disrespect that pops and even the fights are all for no reason. Ethan being attacked is for no good reason. Sure he does fuck up but there is no reason to attack him for it because he is only human we all are. There are no admins that haven't made a mistake... There is no scripter that hasn't made a mistake... Hell I bet even mick has. Just for some silly mistakes is not any reason to attack anyone
My opinion here is that staff step back just a little, dont intervene every little fight that is going on server ( with this i mean one vs one arguments which can be solved by them self).
Secondly, now days there is 30 players online, few admins/modetators, always same. So inevitably we get to point where same admin/modetator get involved with same guys with warnings or mute ect. ect. And because of this, people start arguments with admins and start to make groups who are against this admin or not against.
So, We should get more FRESH admin staff, and especially more admins online.
Players should start to behave more mature when they get warned or muted or something, they dont start to complain things (of course if they have been misunderstood, they will complain).
Staff should use sense with actions they take, and try minimize overstatements.
Yes yes yes bla bla bla bla.........
There are bunch of topics like this yet nothing changed,so you just wasted your time making this,because admins dont give a shit about it
"Ethan is always getting attacked by people who don't like him (yes I'm on his side). Just for some of the smallest screw ups he is attacked by someone"
Smallest screw ups?Open your eyes!.....oh i forgot you kiss his ass so admins wont ban you.I see
If we were really dictators fatalframe then why aren't you banned? :) there's no reason to. I couldn't care less what you do. Just don't go over the top an break rules :)
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 10, 2014, 13:15
Yes yes yes bla bla bla bla.........
There are bunch of topics like this yet nothing changed,so you just wasted your time making this,because admins dont give a shit about it
"Ethan is always getting attacked by people who don't like him (yes I'm on his side). Just for some of the smallest screw ups he is attacked by someone"
Smallest screw ups?Open your eyes!.....oh i forgot you kiss his ass so admins wont ban you.I see
It's people like you is why the server is the way it is. Ethan is doing his job and he's only human. That goes for all staff for that matter they are only human
It's not admins that change. It's the people. Admins only do their jobs. If staff were dictators there would be no CT. There would be no true fun of screwing around on a Friday night... We all need to open our eyes and see that admins are part of the help and the trolls and people complaining are part of the reason why others aren't happy
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 13:23
Ethan is doing his job
really, stop. stop trying.
Vinny people like you are the reason the admins have to be meaner than they need to.
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 13:26
It's not admins that change. It's the people. Admins only do their jobs. If staff were dictators there would be no CT. There would be no true fun of screwing around on a Friday night... We all need to open our eyes and see that admins are part of the help and the trolls and people complaining are part of the reason why others aren't happy
Aren´t we really going on this way now??
Not necessarily. You missed the message earlier I assume. Mick said he's moving server soon in Shoutbox
this is the most bullshit, asslicking topic i've ever fucking seen in my entire life. fucking tryhards.
don't try to hide it, CT IS dying like SAMP is, there is no way you can deny it, and with this bullshit host more and more players will leave/are leaving.
i'm not going to speak about ethan because everyone that is pure blind is on his side, and i'll only talk to that people once they open their eyes. and about that going to fucking hell thing, you just see what he does right, am i correct? because HE was the person who said it first to Spektre, you can see it in his sig.
plus, lets all just say it: some staff can't do shit properly. some of them already changed for the best and i congratulate them for that, mature attitude and thanks for seeing both sides, but some can't do shit.
and for fucks sake, i've never seen ethan's name in some posts like i have right now. the asslick here is fucking strong. congratulations maybe you'll get your mod spot the bad way and be disliked by most people because you just got it thanks to asslicking and not for being a cool person which helps the others (some staff got their position like that and i like them because they're good people, they didnt asslick)
this is my opinion about this topic.
tldr: topic is bullshit, this wont change anything, stop asslicking, watch both sides of the argument.
Quote from: Dobby on March 10, 2014, 13:23
If we were really dictators fatalframe then why aren't you banned? :) there's no reason to. I couldn't care less what you do. Just don't go over the top an break rules :)
The reason why im not banned is because i rarely write here and dont even play on this server
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 13:23
It's people like you is why the server is the way it is. Ethan is doing his job and he's only human. That goes for all staff for that matter they are only human
LMFAO!You are one of those admin ass kissers who talk shit but cant back it up.So people like me is the reason why this server dying?
Can you explain what im doing wrong?All im doing is saying my opinion.I dont troll,dont insult/disrespect others so what are you talking about?I know i know even you dont know it
The only reason why Ethan is not doing shit against you because you are cool with him (and probably he wants to date you idk)
I won't say much because some players will get my message wrongly.
I am not and was never been Ethan's friend,I don't know if I chated with him more than 2-3 lines,but I don't see him as a bad person,just some of CT players that hate him and they want to force Ethan to resign.
Some of them know how to break the rules and avoid to be punished(They was staff members) and when they get punished they start complaining that the punishment wasn't fair . That's not open minded that's just childish.
Anyway this is how I see things going on here.
Don't ask me to reply here again.
Sure. You may say CT is dying, but it means you aren't open minded. For some odd reason, I still have faith in this server. For some odd reason I'm going to make my attempt to follow it until it's dust in the wind. Unlike some of you I have kept my love for this server. Seeing the way some of you act just disheartens me.
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 15:54
Sure. You may say CT is dying, but it means you aren't open minded. For some odd reason, I still have faith in this server. For some odd reason I'm going to make my attempt to follow it until it's dust in the wind.
Well said.
Lol as some of you are saying CT is dying. Keep saying it. Will it do anything lol no fucking no.
I can see where there topic is going...Its gonna get locked soon.
Why people left:
1) Hosting
2) Staff
3) Real life stuff
4) It simply became boring
1. Hosting
Say what you want, but the last year (since 2013) the host was really bad, we switched a lot, had lots of downtime, there are a lot of people that left because of this, it was literally unplayable for some people. I won't join if I see 20/100 and no one I really like, and this is what a lot of people also do.
2. Staff
Hate on me, ignore me, do whatever you want since I don't really care about you since this is my opinion. The staff has a bad image here like someone already said "It only takes one, or two, rotten apples to fuck up the entire bag full", those 1 or 2 staff make a bad impact on all the staff here, ofcourse there are people in the staff team that I really appreciate and like, but some are just not completely "staff-visioned" to have that role. I can write for ages about this but you get the general idea and everyone knows who I (and everyone else) mean.
>> http://www.forum.convoytrucking.net/index.php/topic,45863.msg275891.html#msg275891
3. Real life stuff
You get the drill, no time and school/job.
4. It simply became boring
Admit it, after 4 years it's not what it has been. (even though I only played 2,5 years it still became boring now while it wasn't till some time ago).
Anyways I just spend time writing this while this topic will be locked in a short amount of time like all the others.
TL;DR
Quote from: Shake on March 10, 2014, 13:45
topic is bullshit, this wont change anything, stop asslicking, watch both sides of the argument.
All sides need to stop to be entirely honest - with a clean slate too.
No "go to fucking hell", no "you tried" images, no posting modified pictures of Ethan disrespecting him, no accusations of being a "dictator". No being childish, if you want to speak your pseudo-English (pijon?) go into a CB. If you want to curse at your friends, go into a CB. No "staff are abusers" accusations if the complaint deemed it was not abuse.
Staff shouldn't embrace dictatorial images either, such as locking complaint about their own actions, setting their rank to "Dictator", making exceptions when they lose their shit and so on. These seriously don't help the situation.
No petty complaints when you didn't behave after you were asked to behave (the old ruleset really helped here since "Obey admin/mod orders - if you find they are not reasonable complain on forum"). It's ok to get an further elaboration as to why you were punished, but if you're undoubtedly in the wrong just don't bother.
Ethan fucked up, a lot of the time it was a misunderstanding (name change, edited proof?) but he did go too far with the "go to hell" thing, should have been told off about it. As sardarji said: if he's cool, he is good. The guy who edited a shoutbox message to contain insults about one's mother should be hit a lot harder too. I'll be honest, we all fuck up. Look at me when I first rage-resigned™ for example, "for those who I consider trolls, just go fuck yourself". We have limits, limits that wouldn't be broken if you did not push them. As for what happens when the limit is broken... you saw what happened. On the contrary, we are expected to act maturely and professional about our duties so if we do blow a valve, there should be a consequence.
You should listen to staff when we tell you to stop whatever you are doing. If we tell you to stop doing something it has to be backed up by a rule subject to staff interpretation, so when you get told to stop, take it as a pre-cursor and stop doing it. Pretty much 99.9% of the time we can back up our reasoning with reference to rules so just because the "obey admin/mod orders" rule is gone doesn't give you the ground to ignore us. If you keep doing it, it's your own problem later on in the line when you get warned/banned and we will use the fact you got told to stop with an assumption that you ignored it.
Anyway the bit that is most relevant to me (scripter): SA-MP as a platform is slowing down, so is CT, momentum decreases over time and there isn't much you can do about that. But, in my opinion, lag and downtime are really harming the server more than SA-MP's decline, so hopefully we will get a new host soon and if it still lags I'll optimize whatever I can. I can't promise updates but there are proposals floating around the scripter team. At the moment there's a standstill on scripting (including myself) - Dobby is following the "not scripting until server isn't lagging" rule which in my opinion is a stupid move since optimizations can be made to the gamemode (look at 2.7.3 update!) which can drastically help the lag problem. Matt is lost in the world of CS:GO, Mick is busy with university/work(?), and I'm lacking motivation to do anything since I really do fear it will be only me adding new features. While I could theoretically add new features by myself, the 2.8.x plan is a lot of work and it would probably take me about 2-3 months when factoring in time outside of CT. Sorry but it had to be said guys (scripters) - this isn't something I can do on my own and would appreciate if we all did a share of the work.
I don't see any reason why this topic should be locked either.
Quote from: Joshy on March 10, 2014, 16:57
All sides need to stop to be entirely honest - with a clean slate too.
No "go to fucking hell", no "you tried" images, no posting modified pictures of Ethan disrespecting him, no accusations of being a "dictator". No being childish, if you want to speak your pseudo-English (pijon?) go into a CB. If you want to curse at your friends, go into a CB. No "staff are abusers" accusations if the complaint deemed it was not abuse.
Staff shouldn't embrace dictatorial images either, such as locking complaint about their own actions, setting their rank to "Dictator", making exceptions when they lose their shit and so on. These seriously don't help the situation.
No petty complaints when you didn't behave after you were asked to behave (the old ruleset really helped here since "Obey admin/mod orders - if you find they are not reasonable complain on forum"). It's ok to get an further elaboration as to why you were punished, but if you're undoubtedly in the wrong just don't bother.
Ethan fucked up, a lot of the time it was a misunderstanding (name change, edited proof?) but he did go too far with the "go to hell" thing, should have been told off about it. As sardarji said: if he's cool, he is good. The guy who edited a shoutbox message to contain insults about one's mother should be hit a lot harder too. I'll be honest, we all fuck up. Look at me when I first rage-resigned™ for example, "for those who I consider trolls, just go fuck yourself". We have limits, limits that wouldn't be broken if you did not push them. As for what happens when the limit is broken... you saw what happened. On the contrary, we are expected to act maturely and professional about our duties so if we do blow a valve, there should be a consequence.
You should listen to staff when we tell you to stop whatever you are doing. If we tell you to stop doing something it has to be backed up by a rule subject to staff interpretation, so when you get told to stop, take it as a pre-cursor and stop doing it. Pretty much 99.9% of the time we can back up our reasoning with reference to rules so just because the "obey admin/mod orders" rule is gone doesn't give you the ground to ignore us. If you keep doing it, it's your own problem later on in the line when you get warned/banned and we will use the fact you got told to stop with an assumption that you ignored it.
Anyway the bit that is most relevant to me (scripter): SA-MP as a platform is slowing down, so is CT, momentum decreases over time and there isn't much you can do about that. But, in my opinion, lag and downtime are really harming the server more than SA-MP's decline, so hopefully we will get a new host soon and if it still lags I'll optimize whatever I can. I can't promise updates but there are proposals floating around the scripter team. At the moment there's a standstill on scripting (including myself) - Dobby is following the "not scripting until server isn't lagging" rule which in my opinion is a stupid move since optimizations can be made to the gamemode (look at 2.7.3 update!) which can drastically help the lag problem. Matt is lost in the world of CS:GO, Mick is busy with university/work(?), and I'm lacking motivation to do anything since I really do fear it will be only me adding new features. While I could theoretically add new features by myself, the 2.8.x plan is a lot of work and it would probably take me about 2-3 months when factoring in time outside of CT. Sorry but it had to be said guys (scripters) - this isn't something I can do on my own and would appreciate if we all did a share of the work.
I don't see any reason why this topic should be locked either.
Well said. Someone understands where I'm coming from.
Quote from: Joshy on March 10, 2014, 16:57
The guy who edited a shoutbox message to contain insults about one's mother should be hit a lot harder too.
sorry it has been handled internally
Quote from: Joshy on March 10, 2014, 16:57
At the moment there's a standstill on scripting (including myself) - Dobby is following the "not scripting until server isn't lagging" rule which in my opinion is a stupid move since optimizations can be made to the gamemode (look at 2.7.3 update!) which can drastically help the lag problem. Matt is lost in the world of CS:GO, Mick is busy with university/work(?), and I'm lacking motivation to do anything since I really do fear it will be only me adding new features.
i lost the reason why people say we shouldn't say "ct is dying" here
Quote from: Joshy on March 10, 2014, 16:57
All sides need to stop to be entirely honest - with a clean slate too.
No "go to fucking hell", no "you tried" images, no posting modified pictures of Ethan disrespecting him, no accusations of being a "dictator". No being childish, if you want to speak your pseudo-English (pijon?) go into a CB. If you want to curse at your friends, go into a CB. No "staff are abusers" accusations if the complaint deemed it was not abuse.
Staff shouldn't embrace dictatorial images either, such as locking complaint about their own actions, setting their rank to "Dictator", making exceptions when they lose their shit and so on. These seriously don't help the situation.
No petty complaints when you didn't behave after you were asked to behave (the old ruleset really helped here since "Obey admin/mod orders - if you find they are not reasonable complain on forum"). It's ok to get an further elaboration as to why you were punished, but if you're undoubtedly in the wrong just don't bother.
Ethan fucked up, a lot of the time it was a misunderstanding (name change, edited proof?) but he did go too far with the "go to hell" thing, should have been told off about it. As sardarji said: if he's cool, he is good. The guy who edited a shoutbox message to contain insults about one's mother should be hit a lot harder too. I'll be honest, we all fuck up. Look at me when I first rage-resigned™ for example, "for those who I consider trolls, just go fuck yourself". We have limits, limits that wouldn't be broken if you did not push them. As for what happens when the limit is broken... you saw what happened. On the contrary, we are expected to act maturely and professional about our duties so if we do blow a valve, there should be a consequence.
You should listen to staff when we tell you to stop whatever you are doing. If we tell you to stop doing something it has to be backed up by a rule subject to staff interpretation, so when you get told to stop, take it as a pre-cursor and stop doing it. Pretty much 99.9% of the time we can back up our reasoning with reference to rules so just because the "obey admin/mod orders" rule is gone doesn't give you the ground to ignore us. If you keep doing it, it's your own problem later on in the line when you get warned/banned and we will use the fact you got told to stop with an assumption that you ignored it.
Anyway the bit that is most relevant to me (scripter): SA-MP as a platform is slowing down, so is CT, momentum decreases over time and there isn't much you can do about that. But, in my opinion, lag and downtime are really harming the server more than SA-MP's decline, so hopefully we will get a new host soon and if it still lags I'll optimize whatever I can. I can't promise updates but there are proposals floating around the scripter team. At the moment there's a standstill on scripting (including myself) - Dobby is following the "not scripting until server isn't lagging" rule which in my opinion is a stupid move since optimizations can be made to the gamemode (look at 2.7.3 update!) which can drastically help the lag problem. Matt is lost in the world of CS:GO, Mick is busy with university/work(?), and I'm lacking motivation to do anything since I really do fear it will be only me adding new features. While I could theoretically add new features by myself, the 2.8.x plan is a lot of work and it would probably take me about 2-3 months when factoring in time outside of CT. Sorry but it had to be said guys (scripters) - this isn't something I can do on my own and would appreciate if we all did a share of the work.
I don't see any reason why this topic should be locked either.
just look how every single paragraph is because of the same person =))))))
I think biggest problem is that everyone try keep old players not to leave, but real problem is that we dont have any new players to stay...
Quote from: Barney_Ross on March 10, 2014, 18:16
I think biggest problem is that everyone try keep old players not to leave, but real problem is that we dont have any new players to stay...
someone is smart :like:
And for everyone who blames staff, you should blame yourself for not giving them the chance to change.
If you look at Dobby lot's of people called him a dictator, but did you even notice he is trying to change for you?
If you look at the time he became moderator and how he is now, then he should get an applouse. (you should give him good feedback so he keeps up the good work he is doing)
Sorry Dobby I took you as example, you know I love you :3
It's actually the truth what barney said. I've barerly seen a new player joining Convoy Trucking. But yeah what you expect from a server that is online for 1 hour and offline for 1 week.
And we both are wrong (staff & players). We both are doing lots of stuff wrong. We just wanna blame it on someone else
I love you sjomp :P you know it :D
As for me trying to change. Its true. I thought about it the other day after me and hobo had a conversation, i thought fuck it, let them have fun as long as they Dont break rules.
Since the dictator thing started i found it quite hilarious :) i'll be honest, it didnt bother me in the slightest. If i was that much of a dictator i'd be demoted now wouldnt i? Mick can demote people too. If he wanted me gone he'd of done it, so would Sandman, or Ethan, or Joshy.
Id have to check Xfire for my last ban, but i dont remember who it actually was (in game). My last forum ban was Vinny, over 60 days ago. If im that much of a dictator then why aren't you all banned yet? Why didnt i remove FatalFrames, Shakes Vinnys or Hobo's post (the "trolls").
I'm actually interested in the thread, and i do wanna change. Fair enough i've made a few mistakes, i admit to it.
Written in sublime text, Since the forum loves to 508 on me.
Quote from: Dobby on March 10, 2014, 19:01
I love you sjomp :P you know it :D
As for me trying to change. Its true. I thought about it the other day after me and hobo had a conversation, i thought fuck it, let them have fun as long as they Dont break rules.
Since the dictator thing started i found it quite hilarious :) i'll be honest, it didnt bother me in the slightest. If i was that much of a dictator i'd be demoted now wouldnt i? Mick can demote people too. If he wanted me gone he'd of done it, so would Sandman, or Ethan, or Joshy.
Id have to check Xfire for my last ban, but i dont remember who it actually was (in game). My last forum ban was Vinny, over 60 days ago. If im that much of a dictator then why aren't you all banned yet? Why didnt i remove FatalFrames, Shakes Vinnys or Hobo's post (the "trolls").
I'm actually interested in the thread, and i do wanna change. Fair enough i've made a few mistakes, i admit to it.
Written in sublime text, Since the forum loves to 508 on me.
Majority of us, "the trolls", have been banned from the shoutbox by you numerous times, usually for no reason at all.
Just putting that out there
.Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 13:23
Ethan is doing his job
(http://i.imgur.com/LByCN59.png)
Hell of a job he has been doing so far, and is still doing. :like:
At what point did i say i was right doing that in my previous post? None. I admitted i was wrong, get over it. I can't even be bothered replying here now.
Quote from: Dobby on March 10, 2014, 19:01
Vinny, over 60 days ago.
32 or 33 days ago. Got lowered from 60 to 30 after an entire week of complaint. Now dare to tell me that you are dealing my bans like you would do with any other player thats not on the troll list.
I realize what the deal is. Why there is attacking of the staff. People are too stubborn to open their eyes and see that every single staff member is making an attempt at their job. For the most part they do good, but sometimes they don't. I still respect them all either way because they are the ones that deal with all this crap, they are the ones most dedicated. The trolls (no names) are the ones that got bored of the server a while back and are now trolling to try and make some fun for themselves, which brings me back to the fact that these people don't think of anything or anyone but themselves.
dear god...
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 20:21
I realize what the deal is. Why there is attacking of the staff. People are too stubborn to open their eyes and see that every single staff member is making an attempt at their job. For the most part they do good, but sometimes they don't. I still respect them all either way because they are the ones that deal with all this crap, they are the ones most dedicated. The trolls (no names) are the ones that got bored of the server a while back and are now trolling to try and make some fun for themselves, which brings me back to the fact that these people don't think of anything or anyone but themselves.
Tell me this is not what you really think. Otherwise:
Quote from: Shake on March 10, 2014, 20:28
dear god...
r.i.p cvt
Quote from: Vinny on March 10, 2014, 20:49
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 20:21
I realize what the deal is. Why there is attacking of the staff. People are too stubborn to open their eyes and see that every single staff member is making an attempt at their job. For the most part they do good, but sometimes they don't. I still respect them all either way because they are the ones that deal with all this crap, they are the ones most dedicated. The trolls (no names) are the ones that got bored of the server a while back and are now trolling to try and make some fun for themselves, which brings me back to the fact that these people don't think of anything or anyone but themselves.
Tell me this is not what you really think. Otherwise:
Quote from: Shake on March 10, 2014, 20:28
dear god...
Elaborate?
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 20:21
I realize what the deal is. Why there is attacking of the staff. People are too stubborn to open their eyes and see that every single staff member is making an attempt at their job. For the most part they do good, but sometimes they don't. I still respect them all either way because they are the ones that deal with all this crap, they are the ones most dedicated. The trolls (no names) are the ones that got bored of the server a while back and are now trolling to try and make some fun for themselves, which brings me back to the fact that these people don't think of anything or anyone but themselves.
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It's simple. You have your 2 parties, staff and everyone who is fine with this and extremists (people who are against rule or extremely for their beliefs). Silencing the people against CT's rule does nothing. It just brings up more uprising. Here at CT, we have freedom of speech and freedom to do what we will. For example, you can say that you don't like someone, and that's fine. If you go disrespecting that person that voids the freedom to speak because you have gone and broke a rule. If I go and say, "Obama is a stupid fucking pot smoker" and it gets out and about, then I might have some very special over-payed people at my door. The same thing applies here. What bothers me the most is the random attacking of any staff. Any small screw up results in "Oh he screwed up," and it turns into a huge shitstorm. Tell me one thing and one thing only. What did any member of the staff ever do to you. I can tell you. Just from observation. NOTHING AT ALL!
spekter will come here with his 20d ban then we'll talk, k emily? you've been here for little time, you don't know SHIT of what CT was and is right now, and why it happened, so stop asslicking for christ's sake
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 21:29
It's simple. You have your 2 parties, staff and everyone who is fine with this and extremists (people who are against rule or extremely for their beliefs). Silencing the people against CT's rule does nothing. It just brings up more uprising. Here at CT, we have freedom of speech and freedom to do what we will. For example, you can say that you don't like someone, and that's fine. If you go disrespecting that person that voids the freedom to speak because you have gone and broke a rule. If I go and say, "Obama is a stupid fucking pot smoker" and it gets out and about, then I might have some very special over-payed people at my door. The same thing applies here. What bothers me the most is the random attacking of any staff. Any small screw up results in "Oh he screwed up," and it turns into a huge shitstorm. Tell me one thing and one thing only. What did any member of the staff ever do to you. I can tell you. Just from observation. NOTHING AT ALL!
Thank you for the "How to become moderator very easly" tutorial ROFL
Quote from: Shake on March 10, 2014, 21:41
spekter will come here with his 20d ban then we'll talk, k emily? you've been here for little time, you don't know SHIT of what CT was and is right now, and why it happened, so stop asslicking for christ's sake
How about :NO: and I've been here since 2010 so I don't wanna hear crap. And Spekter has obviously broken a simple rule and is the reason he is banned.
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 21:49
Quote from: Shake on March 10, 2014, 21:41
spekter will come here with his 20d ban then we'll talk, k emily? you've been here for little time, you don't know SHIT of what CT was and is right now, and why it happened, so stop asslicking for christ's sake
How about :NO: and I've been here since 2010 so I don't wanna hear crap. And Spekter has obviously broken a simple rule and is the reason he is banned.
tell me which then ms. smart girl who knows everything and doesnt want to hear crap even though she's defending it
Quote from: Shake on March 10, 2014, 21:57
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 21:49
Quote from: Shake on March 10, 2014, 21:41
spekter will come here with his 20d ban then we'll talk, k emily? you've been here for little time, you don't know SHIT of what CT was and is right now, and why it happened, so stop asslicking for christ's sake
How about :NO: and I've been here since 2010 so I don't wanna hear crap. And Spekter has obviously broken a simple rule and is the reason he is banned.
tell me which then ms. smart girl who knows everything and doesnt want to hear crap even though she's defending it
You real funny, but no wrong doing has been done to you or Spekter. He got banned that is his problem. He is the reason he got banned. He caused the admin to ban him for whatever happened.
now y'all say ct is dead? look at this topic, so many active members arguing about irrelevant things
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No proof has ever been brought forward regarding spekter's 20 day forum ban issued by Ethan.
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 22:07
Quote from: Shake on March 10, 2014, 21:57
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 21:49
Quote from: Shake on March 10, 2014, 21:41
spekter will come here with his 20d ban then we'll talk, k emily? you've been here for little time, you don't know SHIT of what CT was and is right now, and why it happened, so stop asslicking for christ's sake
How about :NO: and I've been here since 2010 so I don't wanna hear crap. And Spekter has obviously broken a simple rule and is the reason he is banned.
tell me which then ms. smart girl who knows everything and doesnt want to hear crap even though she's defending it
You real funny, but no wrong doing has been done to you or Spekter. He got banned that is his problem. He is the reason he got banned. He caused the admin to ban him for whatever happened.
you say you're here since 2k10 and you know a lot but you just said nothing happened to me in a way that i'm complaining because i got banned. lol girl, i've never been banned (been banned once cause my acc was bugged, and another false ban cause they thought i was hacking), so i'm actually complaining as a guy who didnt do a lot of shit, and knows what he's talking about
about spekter, check what hobo said
I rest my case on Spekter. But I still defend the topic
I got 30 days ban twice since december, and no appropriate proof was provided to justify them, just staff feelings against trolls
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 21:29
It's simple. You have your 2 parties, staff and everyone who is fine with this and extremists (people who are against rule or extremely for their beliefs). Silencing the people against CT's rule does nothing. It just brings up more uprising. Here at CT, we have freedom of speech and freedom to do what we will. For example, you can say that you don't like someone, and that's fine. If you go disrespecting that person that voids the freedom to speak because you have gone and broke a rule. If I go and say, "Obama is a stupid fucking pot smoker" and it gets out and about, then I might have some very special over-payed people at my door. The same thing applies here. What bothers me the most is the random attacking of any staff. Any small screw up results in "Oh he screwed up," and it turns into a huge shitstorm. Tell me one thing and one thing only. What did any member of the staff ever do to you. I can tell you. Just from observation. NOTHING AT ALL!
Who said we were targetting all the staff ? PLEASE stop talking shit while you know who the problem is. I currently have problems with 2 staff members, otherwise i dont care about the others since they are neutral with me, contrarely to these 2.
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 10, 2014, 22:31
I rest my case on Spekter. But I still defend the topic
You can defend the topic all you like, but noone is going to take you seriously. Because with this, you pretty much proved that you know absolutely nothing about what is going on here.
Keep defending Ethan and his idiotic actions, i just don't know what could you possibly gain from that.
Quote from: Vinny on March 10, 2014, 22:55
Who said we were targetting all the staff ? PLEASE stop talking shit while you know who the problem is. I currently have problems with 2 staff members, otherwise i dont care about the others since they are neutral with me, contrarely to these 2.
And this is something many people around here need to understand. We don't have a problem with the staff team in general. We have problems with certain staff members, who also seem to have some problems with us. They aren't even trying to make it subtle (Ethan).
All I wanted was to make a point. But, I guess I can't do that without getting shot down... And besides no one else cares enough to change anyway
And why I made this topic? I have no clue anymore. I guess because I had some faith that someone out there cared, but no one does. The replies have made that clear.
If to you caring means just ignoring the bullshit certain staff members do and blindly agreeing with every stupid, unjustified and wrong decison they make, then no. I don't care.
It's not bullshit. It something called getting a job done. Whether you or anyone else like it or not.
That's it, i give up. You defeated me.
I actually can't think of anything to say to you now. The only thing i can say though is that i sincerely hope you are not actually thinking that way.
and the exact opposite to you ;) I believe what I believe and you believe what you do. We all have opinions C:-)
Alright look, topics like this have been created multiple times in the past and usually lead no where. We can't just fix the community, it has to fix itself. The game is old. The server is old. There are other games and other things in life to do. It's hard to keep doing the same thing day in and day out. People move on, the community breaks down, shit happens.
Convoy Trucking will never be what it was when it first started. It won't be what it was two years ago. It won't be what it was last year. It simply can't. You can change the gamemode all you want. You could roll it back to the gamemode of 2010 but that won't change the game and it won't change the community.
Edit: was doing something else while writing this and made an error. Fixed.
Quote from: Hobo on March 11, 2014, 01:27
Alright look, topics like this have been created multiple times in the past and usually lead no where. We can't just fix the community, it has to fix itself. The game is old. The server is old. There are other games and other things in life to do. It's hard to keep doing the same thing day in and day out. People move on, the community breaks down, shit happens.
Convoy Trucking will never be what it was when it first started. It won't be what it was two years ago. It won't be what it was last year. It simply can't. You can change the gamemode all you want. You could make roll it back to the gamemode of 2010 but that won't change the game and it won't change the community.
Most, if not all the players who played everyday, and made the server alive, have Grown up gotten jobs, or a life and moved on.
Nothing can bring the sever back to how it was a few years ago, You can't bring the joy that this over-used, over-played server once had, I used to love this server, played it everyday, but then I got older, I got bored, I moved on.
Nothing can be as great as it once was.
Server, which havent changed for ages.. you cant ask people to have fun. Yeah, there is new maps.. We were told that we get club base island at Milestone.. its not there. Jobs have been for ages same type, nothing new there.
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Quote from: Hobo on March 11, 2014, 01:27
Alright look, topics like this have been created multiple times in the past and usually lead no where. We can't just fix the community, it has to fix itself. The game is old. The server is old. There are other games and other things in life to do. It's hard to keep doing the same thing day in and day out. People move on, the community breaks down, shit happens.
Convoy Trucking will never be what it was when it first started. It won't be what it was two years ago. It won't be what it was last year. It simply can't. You can change the gamemode all you want. You could make roll it back to the gamemode of 2010 but that won't change the game and it won't change the community.
Most, if not all the players who played everyday, and made the server alive, have Grown up gotten jobs, or a life and moved on.
Nothing can bring the sever back to how it was a few years ago, You can't bring the joy that this over-used, over-played server once had, I used to love this server, played it everyday, but then I got older, I got bored, I moved on.
Nothing can be as great as it once was.
Thats the main thing.
Quote from: Spekter on March 11, 2014, 01:15
That's it, i give up. You defeated me.
I actually can't think of anything to say to you now. The only thing i can say though is that i sincerely hope you are not actually thinking that way.
Dont worry Spekter,she just want to be a moderator.She cant say the truth otherwise she would be on the target list.This is the way how people become moderators these days...Kissing asses.Real life works the same way,you have to kiss your boss's ass
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 11, 2014, 11:55
Quote from: Spekter on March 11, 2014, 01:15
That's it, i give up. You defeated me.
I actually can't think of anything to say to you now. The only thing i can say though is that i sincerely hope you are not actually thinking that way.
Dont worry Spekter,she just want to be a moderator.She cant say the truth otherwise she would be on the target list.This is the way how people become moderators these days...Kissing asses.Real life works the same way,you have to kiss your boss's ass
this is why i respect this guy :like: :like:
just give up. nothing will change. ever. CT won't be like it was before. and making these topics sure won't help, so the only reason i can see that you made this topic is to asslick.
Quote from: Shake on March 11, 2014, 12:33
you made this topic is to asslick.
This is why you deserve an sherlock fgt award :like: :dislike:
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but
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 11, 2014, 11:55
Dont worry Spekter,she just want to be a moderator.She cant say the truth otherwise she would be on the target list.This is the way how people become moderators these days...Kissing asses.Real life works the same way,you have to kiss your boss's ass
:like: :like: :like:
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 11, 2014, 11:55
Quote from: Spekter on March 11, 2014, 01:15
That's it, i give up. You defeated me.
I actually can't think of anything to say to you now. The only thing i can say though is that i sincerely hope you are not actually thinking that way.
Dont worry Spekter,she just want to be a moderator.She cant say the truth otherwise she would be on the target list.This is the way how people become moderators these days...Kissing asses.Real life works the same way,you have to kiss your boss's ass
Yep, the only possible explanation.
You cant have both ''sides'' on the same page. there has to be an opposition.
An opposition makes you stronger and , if you do right, you shouldnt ever have to worry about issues/arguments/trouble etc.
every now and then , staff or certain ''trolls'' will get ''attacked'', the important part is, they IF they are willing, they should learn from it. If not, they are here with the wrong intentions. So yes Ethan made mistakes, but aslong if he doesnt make them over and over again, who are we to attack him over and over again, where everyone makes mistakes. Letting go, and accepting things how they are is the best way that this community can do. Leading by example and learning from your mistakes.
Aslong as is there is one side with ''power'' and the other side has no power, you will have arguements and problems. the only thing you can do is to go on, and learn from it. And above all, stop living in the past. What happened, has happened.
Quote from: Konali on March 11, 2014, 16:05
And above all, stop living in the past. What happened, has happened.
some people will never forget whats happened in the past, its how they live
Quote from: Ethan on March 11, 2014, 16:17
Quote from: Konali on March 11, 2014, 16:05
And above all, stop living in the past. What happened, has happened.
some people will never forget whats happened in the past, its how they live
The problem is it's happening in the present and will happen in the future.Nothing will change
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 11, 2014, 16:27
Quote from: Ethan on March 11, 2014, 16:17
Quote from: Konali on March 11, 2014, 16:05
And above all, stop living in the past. What happened, has happened.
some people will never forget whats happened in the past, its how they live
The problem is it's happening in the present and will happen in the future.Nothing will change
true what you say fatal because nobody will get the chance to change if people keep complaining about the past
happening in the present???? who? where? when?
Quote from: Ethan on March 11, 2014, 17:00
happening in the present???? who? where? when?
I am at a loss for words.
Quote from: Hobo on March 11, 2014, 17:05
Quote from: Ethan on March 11, 2014, 17:00
happening in the present? ??? who? where? when?
I am at a loss for words.
Same here. I'm just sitting in disbelief.
Quote from: Shake on March 11, 2014, 12:33
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 11, 2014, 11:55
Quote from: Spekter on March 11, 2014, 01:15
That's it, i give up. You defeated me.
I actually can't think of anything to say to you now. The only thing i can say though is that i sincerely hope you are not actually thinking that way.
Dont worry Spekter,she just want to be a moderator.She cant say the truth otherwise she would be on the target list.This is the way how people become moderators these days...Kissing asses.Real life works the same way,you have to kiss your boss's ass
this is why i respect this guy :like: :like:
just give up. nothing will change. ever. CT won't be like it was before. and making these topics sure won't help, so the only reason i can see that you made this topic is to asslick.
Never give up. Never quit.
Quote from: Hobo on March 11, 2014, 01:27
Alright look, topics like this have been created multiple times in the past and usually lead no where. We can't just fix the community, it has to fix itself. The game is old. The server is old. There are other games and other things in life to do. It's hard to keep doing the same thing day in and day out. People move on, the community breaks down, shit happens.
Convoy Trucking will never be what it was when it first started. It won't be what it was two years ago. It won't be what it was last year. It simply can't. You can change the gamemode all you want. You could roll it back to the gamemode of 2010 but that won't change the game and it won't change the community.
Edit: was doing something else while writing this and made an error. Fixed.
Maybe the server its getting bored for you, there are generation of players, players come here and play maybe 2 months, 6 months, 1, 2 or 3 years and later they leave the server, then new players come here and the cycle begins again, now, the problem is since last year the server started having problems with host, IP changes, days and weeks offline, then new players left the server because they thinks the server is unstable all the time even the old ones came out the server because they hated the situation of the server.
Who remember how hard it was to get in the server when it was 95/100?
Quote from: Ethan on March 11, 2014, 17:00
happening in the present???? who? where? when?
Ill rephrase "who? where? when?" within the past two months
Wow. One year ago I would have never believed the server to be in this state. I completely agree, something must be done. But nothing can be done if we don't all work together, set aside our differences, and learn to let some things go. There is no reason to get involved in other players' disputes. What the server really needs is a stricter discipline policy so players will not troll anymore, and more online, active admins (Like Lil_Shakey) who will keep the server interesting.
I love Convoy Trucking, always have, and always will. I have no plans to ever quit CT. I just hope we can keep it alive for some more time. I'm on board with trying to bring the community back. Now who's with me? :D
Quote from: Toribio on March 11, 2014, 23:37
Maybe the server its getting bored for you, there are generation of players, players come here and play maybe 2 months, 6 months, 1, 2 or 3 years and later they leave the server, then new players come here and the cycle begins again, now, the problem is since last year the server started having problems with host, IP changes, days and weeks offline, then new players left the server because they thinks the server is unstable all the time even the old ones came out the server because they hated the situation of the server.
Who remember how hard it was to get in the server when it was 95/100?
Hahaha, I do. I would stay home from school, sick, and spend 10-15 minutes trying to get a spot on CT!! Those were the days, man. If only we could get it back that way!
Quote from: Ethan on March 12, 2014, 01:07
Quote from: Ethan on March 11, 2014, 17:00
happening in the present???? who? where? when?
Ill rephrase "who? where? when?" within the past two months
At least approve my replies if truth doesn't hurt you. I said:
Quote from: Ethan on March 11, 2014, 17:00
happening in the present???? who? where? when?
This is exactly a pure example of why things will never change here.
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 12, 2014, 10:41
Quote from: Willie_Nelson on March 12, 2014, 02:09
What the server really needs is a stricter discipline policy so players will not troll anymore,
Are you f****** r*******?The server has already a very strict policy.Players cant even have fun anymore,this is more like a dictator server.You dont even know what you are talking about
Please, show us an example of this 'very strict policy' that you speak of :) Im also warning you for calling someone fucking retarded.
Also let's see an example of no fun? I go on everyday, and everyday I find something new and fun to do. It may be derping around with friends, talking to people, driving like an idiot, or just simply doing a mission. There is plenty of fun. If you don't find it then you probably are a little slow. (Sorry TS for the retard reference) CT just has no more players who have faith in it anymore.
And again. There is no truth to censor. Just someone's bad opinion.
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 12, 2014, 11:19
And again. There is no truth to censor. Just someone's bad opinion.
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NONE opinion is bad you can't censor someone's opinion unless we are entirely and officially under the reign of hitler.
How can you Sandman warn someone from question?? Its diffrend to call someone retard than ask are you one..
My opinion: There is nothing wrong on Emmie, she is great! :D :D
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 12, 2014, 11:18
(Sorry TS for the retard reference)
Christ....
Quote from: Vinny on March 12, 2014, 11:24
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didn't expect this omg XDDDDDDDDD
Quote from: Vinny on March 12, 2014, 11:24
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fuk i had a huge giggl XDDDDDD
about the other replies: huge motherfuckin' facepalm. your ideas/what you're defending is so... i can't even explain. if you want to see change, start from the bottom. BUT i bet it won't work. CT had it's days, now its just slowly dying, with its speed accelerating more and more everyday
CT is dying. Happy ? Party ?
Now fucking stop it.
Quote from: sardarji on March 12, 2014, 14:33
CT is dying. Happy ? Party ?
Now fucking stop it.
CT is not dying. CT is dead like a dinner.
Quote from: Spekter on March 12, 2014, 14:38
Quote from: sardarji on March 12, 2014, 14:33
CT is dying. Happy ? Party ?
Now fucking stop it.
CT is not dying. CT is dead like a dinner.
Nah you are wrong.
Not dying. Just in the midst of rebirth.
Quote from: TheSandman on March 12, 2014, 10:49
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 12, 2014, 10:41
Quote from: Willie_Nelson on March 12, 2014, 02:09
What the server really needs is a stricter discipline policy so players will not troll anymore,
Are you f****** r*******?The server has already a very strict policy.Players cant even have fun anymore,this is more like a dictator server.You dont even know what you are talking about
Please, show us an example of this 'very strict policy' that you speak of :) Im also warning you for calling someone fucking retarded.
Okay first of all i dont give a flying shit if you warn me
Second thing is you just showed to the whole community the example of very strict policy aka dictatorship
Show me a proof where did i call him retarded?I did not do it yet you warned me thats abusing powers.Also have you seen that question mark?Explain me how can someone call others retarded in a question?How is that possible?
And you wonder why people call staff members as dictators.You are pathetic
Oh and your little asskisser basically called me a retarded yet she did not get warned.Maybe because she is your asskisser?Yeah we have fair punishment system LOL
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 12, 2014, 11:18
If you don't find it then you probably are a little slow. (Sorry TS for the retard reference)
Calling someone a fucking retard is unethical, its pathetic and not needed. Its breaking, the most simple rule we, and every other server have, disrespecting. I wouldnt call that very strict.
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 12, 2014, 10:41
Are you f****** r*******?The server has already a very strict policy.Players cant even have fun anymore,this is more like a dictator server.You dont even know what you are talking about
Theres your proof, having *** in your sentence does not void the fact that you disrespected someone, your intention is still there, its obvious what you wanted to say, it wont be tolerated.
This conversation is over.
#Rekt
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 12, 2014, 15:30
Not dying. Just in the midst of rebirth.
since you believe in phoenixes, do you also believe that words will change stuff? if so, why is there still wars going on after a lot of people have read "make love, not war"?
Quote from: Shake on March 12, 2014, 16:19
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 12, 2014, 15:30
Not dying. Just in the midst of rebirth.
do you also believe that words will change stuff?
They do. Just not here. Because everyone is to ignorant to care.
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 12, 2014, 15:30
They do. Just not here. Because everyone is to ignorant to care.
Not everyone is too ignorant to care. In fact, I think a lot of players are on board with making changes to CT. In my opinion, one of the biggest things that drove people away from CT was when we went from 100 slots to 50. I could never get on the server when it was 50 slots, and I think a lot of players stopped coming back when they couldn't log on. Now we are left with just a fraction of the community we used to have. We must rebuild!
Quote from: Willie_Nelson on March 12, 2014, 18:59
Quote from: Emmie_US on March 12, 2014, 15:30
They do. Just not here. Because everyone is to ignorant to care.
Not everyone is too ignorant to care. In fact, I think a lot of players are on board with making changes to CT. In my opinion, one of the biggest things that drove people away from CT was when we went from 100 slots to 50. I could never get on the server when it was 50 slots, and I think a lot of players stopped coming back when they couldn't log on. Now we are left with just a fraction of the community we used to have. We must rebuild!
tell us how if most of the old players have a life and a job now, and they don't care anymore about CT/samp/gta, and we don't have anything new to show to new players and to bring them in and stay? specially with the shitty host we had/have
Quote from: TheSandman on March 12, 2014, 16:02
Calling someone a fucking retard is unethical, its pathetic and not needed. Its breaking, the most simple rule we, and every other server have, disrespecting. I wouldnt call that very strict.
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 12, 2014, 10:41
Are you f****** r*******?The server has already a very strict policy.Players cant even have fun anymore,this is more like a dictator server.You dont even know what you are talking about
Theres your proof, having *** in your sentence does not void the fact that you disrespected someone, your intention is still there, its obvious what you wanted to say, it wont be tolerated.
This conversation is over.
Opening it again... There is really no sence of your warning Sandman, if someone says to other "are you idiot??" dont mean same as: Hey! You are idiot!. Dont know about your country where you live, but in most of world, this: ? gives discretion to it´s reader.. So if you want to understand that someone is calling you idiot.. Its your problem, but when there is question mark behind sentence, you DO NOT with malice aforethought insult anyone.
Quote from: Barney_Ross on March 12, 2014, 19:18
Quote from: TheSandman on March 12, 2014, 16:02
Calling someone a fucking retard is unethical, its pathetic and not needed. Its breaking, the most simple rule we, and every other server have, disrespecting. I wouldnt call that very strict.
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 12, 2014, 10:41
Are you f****** r*******?The server has already a very strict policy.Players cant even have fun anymore,this is more like a dictator server.You dont even know what you are talking about
Theres your proof, having *** in your sentence does not void the fact that you disrespected someone, your intention is still there, its obvious what you wanted to say, it wont be tolerated.
This conversation is over.
Opening it again... There is really no sence of your warning Sandman, if someone says to other "are you idiot??" dont mean same as: Hey! You are idiot!. Dont know about your country where you live, but in most of world, this: ? gives discretion to it´s reader.. So if you want to understand that someone is calling you idiot.. Its your problem, but when there is question mark behind sentence, you DO NOT with malice aforethought insult anyone.
Uh... no? "Are you an idiot?" is calling someone an idiot. It's a rhetorical question.
So what exactly is this topic about?
Quote from: Benny on March 12, 2014, 19:25
So what exactly is this topic about?
idk so much offtopic already
Quote from: Barney_Ross on March 12, 2014, 19:18
Quote from: TheSandman on March 12, 2014, 16:02
Calling someone a fucking retard is unethical, its pathetic and not needed. Its breaking, the most simple rule we, and every other server have, disrespecting. I wouldnt call that very strict.
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 12, 2014, 10:41
Are you f****** r*******?The server has already a very strict policy.Players cant even have fun anymore,this is more like a dictator server.You dont even know what you are talking about
Theres your proof, having *** in your sentence does not void the fact that you disrespected someone, your intention is still there, its obvious what you wanted to say, it wont be tolerated.
This conversation is over.
Opening it again... There is really no sence of your warning Sandman, if someone says to other "are you idiot??" dont mean same as: Hey! You are idiot!. Dont know about your country where you live, but in most of world, this: ? gives discretion to it´s reader.. So if you want to understand that someone is calling you idiot.. Its your problem, but when there is question mark behind sentence, you DO NOT with malice aforethought insult anyone.
lol. So if i say someone "are you m**f** a**?" Its not insulting ?
xDDDDD
Nice try.
Quote from: sardarji on March 12, 2014, 19:46
Quote from: Barney_Ross on March 12, 2014, 19:18
Quote from: TheSandman on March 12, 2014, 16:02
Calling someone a fucking retard is unethical, its pathetic and not needed. Its breaking, the most simple rule we, and every other server have, disrespecting. I wouldnt call that very strict.
Quote from: FatalFrame on March 12, 2014, 10:41
Are you f****** r*******?The server has already a very strict policy.Players cant even have fun anymore,this is more like a dictator server.You dont even know what you are talking about
Theres your proof, having *** in your sentence does not void the fact that you disrespected someone, your intention is still there, its obvious what you wanted to say, it wont be tolerated.
This conversation is over.
Opening it again... There is really no sence of your warning Sandman, if someone says to other "are you idiot??" dont mean same as: Hey! You are idiot!. Dont know about your country where you live, but in most of world, this: ? gives discretion to it´s reader.. So if you want to understand that someone is calling you idiot.. Its your problem, but when there is question mark behind sentence, you DO NOT with malice aforethought insult anyone.
lol. So if i say someone "are you m**f** a**?" Its not insulting ?
xDDDDD
Nice try.
Ok.. I can agree with you but I won't..
Go to any teacher of your school and ask him/her .. "Are you fucking retarded?" and see what he say.
Or if you are older go to your boss and ask him the same question,then come back and reply here!
Thank you.
this is why drugs are bad
Quote from: Shake on March 12, 2014, 20:08
this is why drugs are bad
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