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Server related => General Talk => Topic started by: mlwu10 on December 31, 2013, 13:24

Title: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: mlwu10 on December 31, 2013, 13:24
Discuss what u want in CT in 2014 Freely!
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 13:25
Nope. I know this will turn into a "host is shit" style topic
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Joshy on December 31, 2013, 13:33
I think some improvement must be done regarding the host, in addition to this maybe some additions to the gamemode like more incentive for convoys and maybe the odd extra "mini" mission type.

Could do with some more moderators including investigating into those who are inactive (you know what I mean + I have proof to support this (i.e. you should use the watchlist to see for yourselves admins)).

I do think something better can be done with clubs because at the moment it's either a novelty club, or you just join club for their vehicles. I was thinking "club convoys" sort of thing where leaders can choose to automatically set up a convoy when they /work with a eligible vehicle type and then all club members will see it in /convoy. Just a thought, since clubs are meant to integrate people with each other but right now it's mostly just satisfying the needs of the member.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: DeHavilland on December 31, 2013, 13:41
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 13:25
Nope. I know this will turn into a "host is shit" style topic
DON'T talk about hosts here then!

This is what I want or want to be changed
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Shake on December 31, 2013, 13:44
Quote from: DeHavilland on December 31, 2013, 13:41
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 13:25
Nope. I know this will turn into a "host is shit" style topic
DON'T talk about hosts here then!

This is what I want or want to be changed

       
  • Troll free server
  • Trading
  • Old players back
  • Help topics in different language on forum
  • Better staff crew
  • More active moderators/admins
  • Limited missions
1 - Trolls will always exist on the internet
2 - Yes
3 - They won't be back if CT doesn't get a huge update in EVERYTHING
4 - Yes! I suggested that once to Joshy (I think it was him?)
5 - We need this ASAP
6 - Same as point 5
7 - Neutral on this
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Chauf on December 31, 2013, 14:20
Lets make fun like every year!!!

+1
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Benny on December 31, 2013, 14:44
I know that we don't want to talk about the host but thats the main thing to make everything els work ok. The server has to be stable, up all the time with no problems and without any lag for each and every player this server has, when that will be done then we can talk about other stuff.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:07
Only thing i really want enforced is when people get given a second chance from bans here. It feels like they just come back as normal.
If you ban yourself to leave, then come back (legally), you break one rule, you should be banned as long as your original account is.
One warn, one ban, any length, and youve had it.
For example, Noe_Silva should have been gone months ago, i issued the warning.

Same goes with trolls/pricks/shitsticks, why are they given multiple bloody chances....*cough* i can think of 3 people off the top of my head.

I really want to hammer down on punishments this year. :-\ but i know no one else will stand behind me on that.

Other than that, the host/location needs to be fixed (proof/time/experience here dictates EU is not the correct choice), staff updates/renewals/etc.
Trading would be nice to give a trial run, with strict rules.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:11
Quote from: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:07
I really want to hammer down on punishments this year. :-\ but i know no one else will stand behind me on that.

Hammer down how? reduce?
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:16
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:11
Quote from: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:07
I really want to hammer down on punishments this year. :-\ but i know no one else will stand behind me on that.

Hammer down how? reduce?
Hammer down, become harder with them?
Konali has a system where he gives people chances, im fine with that, but people abuse it way too much.
I dont like people who insult parents/brothers/sisters/family, ive always punished as hard as i could reasonably.
And again, with the people who intentionally cheat/break into accounts, they come back with a chance, again, i dont like it, but i go along with it. People abuse that, one chance and they are gone should be enforced.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:18
Quote from: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:16
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:11
Quote from: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:07
I really want to hammer down on punishments this year. :-\ but i know no one else will stand behind me on that.

Hammer down how? reduce?
Hammer down, become harder with them?
Konali has a system where he gives people chances, im fine with that, but people abuse it way too much.
I dont like people who insult parents/brothers/sisters/family, ive always punished as hard as i could reasonably.
And again, with the people who intentionally cheat/break into accounts, they come back with a chance, again, i dont like it, but i go along with it. People abuse that, one chance and they are gone should be enforced.

I'll stand behind you with that. Bout time the rules were followed. Trolls should be gone permanently, i'd rather moderate a small good community than a huge troll-ridden community.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Twido on December 31, 2013, 15:31
A server that is working? Not failing to load
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:34
Quote from: Twido on December 31, 2013, 15:31
A server that is working? Not failing to load
This is the hosts problem, i told Mick he said its nothing we can fix.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Wizzer on December 31, 2013, 15:47
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: mlwu10 on December 31, 2013, 15:51
create more county but fix the radar first!
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:53
Quote from: mlwu10 on December 31, 2013, 15:51
create more county but fix the radar first!

As in the bits showing on the radar from the custom islands? Not unless we remove some, we've already, or may be getting close to the samp limit.

Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Twido on December 31, 2013, 16:13
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:53
Quote from: mlwu10 on December 31, 2013, 15:51
create more county but fix the radar first!

As in the bits showing on the radar from the custom islands? Not unless we remove some, we've already, or may be getting close to the samp limit.
You don't need gangzones... Having some boards that show our directions decently is enough.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: X_Raided on December 31, 2013, 20:28
1. Admans with an IQ higher than 40
2. same as number 1
3. Casino's
4. Other ways (besides working) to make money
5. Better Admans
6. Businesses
7. Admans that have functioning brains
8. refer to number 1
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Ethan on December 31, 2013, 20:30
Quote from: X_Raided on December 31, 2013, 20:28
1. Admans with an IQ higher than 40
2. same as number 1
3. Casino's
4. Other ways (besides working) to make money
5. Better Admans
6. Businesses
7. Admans that have functioning brains
8. refer to number 1


what the fuck is a adman?
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Hobo on December 31, 2013, 20:32
Quote from: Joshy on December 31, 2013, 13:33
I think some improvement must be done regarding the host, in addition to this maybe some additions to the gamemode like more incentive for convoys and maybe the odd extra "mini" mission type.

Could do with some more moderators including investigating into those who are inactive (you know what I mean + I have proof to support this (i.e. you should use the watchlist to see for yourselves admins)).

I do think something better can be done with clubs because at the moment it's either a novelty club, or you just join club for their vehicles. I was thinking "club convoys" sort of thing where leaders can choose to automatically set up a convoy when they /work with a eligible vehicle type and then all club members will see it in /convoy. Just a thought, since clubs are meant to integrate people with each other but right now it's mostly just satisfying the needs of the member.

Yeah. That.

#TeamJoshobo2014
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Supreme on December 31, 2013, 20:33
Quote from: Ethan on December 31, 2013, 20:30
Quote from: X_Raided on December 31, 2013, 20:28
1. Admans with an IQ higher than 40
2. same as number 1
3. Casino's
4. Other ways (besides working) to make money
5. Better Admans
6. Businesses
7. Admans that have functioning brains
8. refer to number 1


what the fuck is a adman?


He is in dark place (see his signature) so he doesn't see the letters on his keyboard.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 20:39
Quote from: X_Raided on December 31, 2013, 20:28
1. Admans with an IQ higher than 40 Not respectful at all
2. same as number 1 oh you troll
3. Casino's Would have to be scratch written
4. Other ways (besides working) to make money Uhh, what?
5. Better Admans Please, explain better
6. Businesses Nice suggestion.
7. Admans that have functioning brains Same as number two
8. refer to number 1 Refer to 5

My responses in bold.

You have also been forum warned for demeaning/disrespectful posts.

Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: X_Raided on December 31, 2013, 20:43
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 20:39
Quote from: X_Raided on December 31, 2013, 20:28
1. Admans with an IQ higher than 40 Not respectful at all
2. same as number 1 oh you troll
3. Casino's Would have to be scratch written
4. Other ways (besides working) to make money Uhh, what?
5. Better Admans Please, explain better
6. Businesses Nice suggestion.
7. Admans that have functioning brains Same as number two
8. refer to number 1 Refer to 5

My responses in bold.

You have also been forum warned for demeaning/disrespectful posts.
i wish you knew how little i care about being warned on a forum....
4. Other ways (besides working) to make money Uhh, what?
----translation....Different ways to make money besides working... need me to draw it so maybe you understand better?
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 20:50
No, just explain a bit better. Its always been /work to earn money, so whats the issue? too lazy?
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Winkle on December 31, 2013, 21:14
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 20:50
No, just explain a bit better. Its always been /work to earn money, so whats the issue? too lazy?

Kinda, as I understood, like Casinos? Beside working? Nope.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: X_Raided on December 31, 2013, 22:46
too lazy? no, not too lazy to hold down the W key and steer...quite simple actualy, but rather boring and reptetive...drive here, drive there, drive here drive there...would be more interesting to have more options of making money. comprende?
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Shake on December 31, 2013, 23:21
Quote from: X_Raided on December 31, 2013, 22:46
too lazy? no, not too lazy to hold down the W key and steer...quite simple actualy, but rather boring and reptetive...drive here, drive there, drive here drive there...would be more interesting to have more options of making money. comprende?
What ways, then?
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: SpazzBucket. on December 31, 2013, 23:47
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:18
Quote from: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:16
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:11
Quote from: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:07
I really want to hammer down on punishments this year. :-\ but i know no one else will stand behind me on that.

Hammer down how? reduce?
Hammer down, become harder with them?
Konali has a system where he gives people chances, im fine with that, but people abuse it way too much.
I dont like people who insult parents/brothers/sisters/family, ive always punished as hard as i could reasonably.
And again, with the people who intentionally cheat/break into accounts, they come back with a chance, again, i dont like it, but i go along with it. People abuse that, one chance and they are gone should be enforced.

I'll stand behind you with that. Bout time the rules were followed. Trolls should be gone permanently, i'd rather moderate a small good community than a huge troll-ridden community.
I will also back you on this, I want to get rid of all of them that ruin it here for everyone. And put the host back in America.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Ethan on December 31, 2013, 23:49
Quote from: SpazzBucket. on December 31, 2013, 23:47
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:18
Quote from: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:16
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:11
Quote from: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:07
I really want to hammer down on punishments this year. :-\ but i know no one else will stand behind me on that.

Hammer down how? reduce?
Hammer down, become harder with them?
Konali has a system where he gives people chances, im fine with that, but people abuse it way too much.
I dont like people who insult parents/brothers/sisters/family, ive always punished as hard as i could reasonably.
And again, with the people who intentionally cheat/break into accounts, they come back with a chance, again, i dont like it, but i go along with it. People abuse that, one chance and they are gone should be enforced.

I'll stand behind you with that. Bout time the rules were followed. Trolls should be gone permanently, i'd rather moderate a small good community than a huge troll-ridden community.
I will also back you on this, I want to get rid of all of them that ruin it here for everyone.
Im pretty sure all staff back you on this
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: $nake on December 31, 2013, 23:54
Quote from: SpazzBucket. on December 31, 2013, 23:47
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:18
Quote from: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:16
Quote from: Dobby on December 31, 2013, 15:11
Quote from: TheSandman on December 31, 2013, 15:07
I really want to hammer down on punishments this year. :-\ but i know no one else will stand behind me on that.

Hammer down how? reduce?
Hammer down, become harder with them?
Konali has a system where he gives people chances, im fine with that, but people abuse it way too much.
I dont like people who insult parents/brothers/sisters/family, ive always punished as hard as i could reasonably.
And again, with the people who intentionally cheat/break into accounts, they come back with a chance, again, i dont like it, but i go along with it. People abuse that, one chance and they are gone should be enforced.

I'll stand behind you with that. Bout time the rules were followed. Trolls should be gone permanently, i'd rather moderate a small good community than a huge troll-ridden community.
I will also back you on this, I want to get rid of all of them that ruin it here for everyone. And put the host back in America.
I'm NOPE'ing the idea of US Host, we are 80%'ish EU, nothing will change it, people from other continents don't care that much about server, look how many of them play :)
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: TheGame on January 01, 2014, 00:02
May focus on the game self and less on the things what need to change?
That would be the best thing ever and it even works but the most keep complaining about the changes and community..
Just play the game where it is made for and changes will come when they are needed.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Shake on January 01, 2014, 00:07
I'm EU and I support the USA host... It was good, I have nothing to complain about. Could be better yes, but since I got new internet I rarely lagged.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Lindsey on January 01, 2014, 00:28
Is this another "we advertise DDoS protection but can't back it up?" or just general outages :(
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Matias on January 01, 2014, 00:31
Just MySQL database failing.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Hobo on January 01, 2014, 00:33
Quote from: $nake on December 31, 2013, 23:54
I'm NOPE'ing the idea of US Host, we are 80%'ish EU, nothing will change it
Host in USA = fair ping to all. Since the USA is between Europe and Australia/Asia, both places get ~200 ping (or less). I'm not saying this because I live in the USA since my ping has always been ~100 except when the server was in New York. Right now with the host in Europe, Australian and Asian players are getting 400+ ping.

Quote from: $nake on December 31, 2013, 23:54
people from other continents don't care that much about server, look how many of them play :)
We have plenty of players from Australia, Asia, South America, Central America, and North America that care about the server. I have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Dobby on January 01, 2014, 00:34
Quote from: Matt on January 01, 2014, 00:31
Just MySQL database failing.

^ That.

Stay off the "host is shit" topic or ill lock it. Besides, didn't Lindsey start a thread with more or less the same thing?

Quote from: $nake on December 31, 2013, 23:54
people from other continents don't care that much about server, look how many of them play :)

So so so selfish $nake.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: TheSandman on January 01, 2014, 02:17
Quote from: $nake on December 31, 2013, 23:54
I'm NOPE'ing the idea of US Host, we are 80%'ish EU, nothing will change it, people from other continents don't care that much about server, look how many of them play :)
Dont be so self centered $nake, its pathetic. Not everything revolves around Europe and you.
Youre playing a driving server, so a higher ping isnt a priority to its players. You need a host that has uptime, (which America had), a server that stayed online, wasnt being attacked (which was the majority of America).

Quote from: Lindsey on January 01, 2014, 00:28
Is this another "we advertise DDoS protection but can't back it up?" or just general outages :(
Ive heard a couple other servers are down too so its the host being sh*t as usual.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: X_Raided on January 01, 2014, 02:46
i hope all the whiners thats were crying to move the server to EU are happy right now.... HAHAH
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Trux on January 01, 2014, 04:51
Quote from: X_Raided on January 01, 2014, 02:46
i hope all the whiners thats were crying to move the server to EU are happy right now.... HAHAH

Although I'm not between these whiners you are talking about, I'm glad it was moved to the EU. Since then, ping was reduced and at least I don't have to stop at the mapped islands, waiting for them to load.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Winkle on January 01, 2014, 06:47
Quote from: Hobo on January 01, 2014, 00:33
Host in USA = fair ping to all. Since the USA is between Europe and Australia/Asia, both places get ~200 ping (or less). Right now with the host in Europe, Australian and Asian players are getting 400+ ping.

This.


Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Kenworth on January 01, 2014, 10:09
Quote from: Winkle on January 01, 2014, 06:47
Quote from: Hobo on January 01, 2014, 00:33
Host in USA = fair ping to all. Since the USA is between Europe and Australia/Asia, both places get ~200 ping (or less). Right now with the host in Europe, Australian and Asian players are getting 400+ ping.

This.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: mlwu10 on January 01, 2014, 11:54
+1, its fair!
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: FatalFrame on January 01, 2014, 13:29
To some staff members:

Give us the right of the free speech and more freedom because this is like a dictatorial server.Dont act like you own this server because you dont,Mick owns it,not you

Then maybe players will stop leaving CVT so this server will have 100/100 players again instead of 30/100 all the time.Stop warning/banning everyone for pathetic reasons,you will just kill the server with your bullshit

Of course the bad host was the other reasons why a lot of people left this server

Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: TheSandman on January 01, 2014, 13:54
Quote from: FatalFrame on January 01, 2014, 13:29
To some staff members:

Give us the right of the free speech and more freedom because this is like a dictatorial server.Dont act like you own this server because you dont,Mick owns it,not you

Then maybe players will stop leaving CVT so this server will have 100/100 players again instead of 30/100 all the time.Stop warning/banning everyone for pathetic reasons,you will just kill the server with your bullshit

Of course the bad host was the other reasons why a lot of people left this server
You do have the right to freedom of speech. Thats why there is a complaints section, for you to freely comment or complain a decision you believe is unfair or not right in any way.
We run the server for Mick, because he doesnt have the time to moderate/administrate it himself, thats what we are for.

There are reasons we punish for the things we punish for, otherwise everything will be in more chaos than it is now.

For someone with 11 posts you really do talk a lot of shit without doing your research.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: MeTaLiXx on January 01, 2014, 14:08
Heavy Vehicles for sale !
Rhino / Hydra / Hunter... etc :D
soo evil idea  >:D >:D >:D MUHAHAHAHA  :like:
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Shake on January 01, 2014, 14:09
Quote from: TheSandman on January 01, 2014, 13:54
Quote from: FatalFrame on January 01, 2014, 13:29
To some staff members:

Give us the right of the free speech and more freedom because this is like a dictatorial server.Dont act like you own this server because you dont,Mick owns it,not you

Then maybe players will stop leaving CVT so this server will have 100/100 players again instead of 30/100 all the time.Stop warning/banning everyone for pathetic reasons,you will just kill the server with your bullshit

Of course the bad host was the other reasons why a lot of people left this server
For someone with 11 posts you really do talk a lot of shit without doing your research.
This is what I don't get. What's the thing about him having 11 posts? He might be every single day looking on the forum without posting anything.
And, fyi, he knows more than most people do. Just saying. FatalFrame knows what he's talking about.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: mick88 on January 01, 2014, 14:15
I'd like to get more scripters on board to squash the bugs, develop new features, and optimize gamemode to further reduce the lag. Unfortunately we can't get a perfect host because we are not making money to pay for one. I don't want to commercialize the server, so we can only afford whatever donations allow.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Tyler on January 01, 2014, 14:19
Quote from: Metallord on January 01, 2014, 14:08
Heavy Vehicles for sale !
Rhino / Hydra / Hunter... etc :D
soo evil idea  >:D >:D >:D MUHAHAHAHA  :like:
Never gonna happen. :like:
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Lindsey on January 01, 2014, 16:16
Quote from: Winkle on January 01, 2014, 06:47
Quote from: Hobo on January 01, 2014, 00:33
Host in USA = fair ping to all. Since the USA is between Europe and Australia/Asia, both places get ~200 ping (or less). Right now with the host in Europe, Australian and Asian players are getting 400+ ping.

This.

Who are not the majority.

As mick has posted, if people actually donated he'd get a decent host.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Ethan on January 01, 2014, 16:26
Quote from: Lindsey on January 01, 2014, 16:16
As mick has posted, if people actually donated he'd get a decent host.
there isnt ever going to be a "perfect" host location... hosted in America, European users complain, hosted in Europe, people from other parts of the world complain... never gonna find that perfect spot
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Hobo on January 01, 2014, 16:38
Quote from: Lindsey on January 01, 2014, 16:16
Quote from: Winkle on January 01, 2014, 06:47
Quote from: Hobo on January 01, 2014, 00:33
Host in USA = fair ping to all. Since the USA is between Europe and Australia/Asia, both places get ~200 ping (or less). Right now with the host in Europe, Australian and Asian players are getting 400+ ping.
This.
Who are not the majority.
So? I think the majority can deal with ~200 ping instead of forcing other players (and there are plenty of them) to suffer with 400+ ping.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: X_Raided on January 01, 2014, 18:04
fatalframe is correct....server died not only because of gta5 but because admans are no longer here to help people like before, now, new smods are only concerned with warning and banning people. little kids that have been giving more power than they ever have in there lives...look what youve done to the server lol ...where as once we had a Disneyland like environment now we have a Nazi Germany like server ran by the Gestapo
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Tanner on January 01, 2014, 19:50
I would like to see some new missions- such as load points, drop points (Which means make new counties. Once I get my school schedule worked out, I wouldn't mind learning MTA and applying for a mapper position), new mini missions (Fire truck, Taxi (kinda like limos)), trading for certain things to be re-enabled (even though this might not ever happen again:/), and have different club features as what have been listed before. There's a lot of potential for this server. There really is. But it's up to the players in the community to do something about it. If you want a "perfect" server (it'll never be "perfect"), then everyone needs to chip in (Not all with $), and do their part to help make this server succeed. I enjoy coming on the server. But there needs to be some changes, and as I've said- it's up to the players themselves. This isn't a "Dear Santa" type thing. If you want something- work for it. We ALL can do it, I know we can. There's some excellent people that I've met on this server (Some that I've never met in person) that I call my best friends, and that comes from the community. This year, I want to start a clean slate with all players that I've been pissed at or been rude towards. 2014 is a new year for me, as it is for everyone.

I like everyone's suggestions. And I think we can do it, guys/girls. Lets make Convoy Trucking the best server in SAMP history!

Happy New Years everyone!
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Bruno_2MLG4CT on January 01, 2014, 20:06
Why don't you expand the ways to donate, mick. I wanted to donate several times but I couldn't because paypal and onebip both don't support Macedonia. And I am not the only one, I spoke to a lot of other players from foreign countries that have the same problem. If you expand it + You advertise it (if you can afford money for advertising) why not. It's not bad if you advertise. Every company is advertised. You can actually earn money from this server which you can spend on a decent host. Who knows, maybe you will earn some more who you can use privately.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Benny on January 01, 2014, 20:38
I think PaySafeCard and MasterCard would be good, i would donate each month since paysafe is easy to get.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Tyler on January 01, 2014, 21:18
Quote from: Bruno_2MLG4CT on January 01, 2014, 20:06
Who knows, maybe you will earn some more who you can use privately.
That is against the samp ToS.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: TheSandman on January 01, 2014, 22:57
Quote from: Hobo on January 01, 2014, 16:38
Quote from: Lindsey on January 01, 2014, 16:16
Quote from: Winkle on January 01, 2014, 06:47
Quote from: Hobo on January 01, 2014, 00:33
Host in USA = fair ping to all. Since the USA is between Europe and Australia/Asia, both places get ~200 ping (or less). Right now with the host in Europe, Australian and Asian players are getting 400+ ping.
This.
Who are not the majority.
So? I think the majority can deal with ~200 ping instead of forcing other players (and there are plenty of them) to suffer with 400+ ping.
Overstatement. I used some players a couple weeks ago for some ping tests, Nobody in Europe had over 130, maybe 150 at most.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Gaara on January 02, 2014, 02:09
I know I really haven't been around this server for a long time so I have no idea how much my word may count, but I'm a European player, currently my ping is around 80-90 (thanks to my aaawwweeesome 2 MB/s connection), either way, I wouldn't mind to play with a ping of 200 either. 400+ would be a different story, but a US host wouldn't get European players that far up I suppose. Just my two cents :)

Oh, and

Quote from: Benny on January 01, 2014, 20:38
I think PaySafeCard and MasterCard would be good, i would donate each month since paysafe is easy to get.

I totally agree on this one, I could donate with a paysafecard right away. No idea if that's possible, though :)
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Viper on January 02, 2014, 13:29
Quote from: TheSandman on January 01, 2014, 02:17
Quote from: $nake on December 31, 2013, 23:54
I'm NOPE'ing the idea of US Host, we are 80%'ish EU, nothing will change it, people from other continents don't care that much about server, look how many of them play :)
Dont be so self centered $nake, its pathetic. Not everything revolves around Europe and you.
Youre playing a driving server, so a higher ping isnt a priority to its players. You need a host that has uptime, (which America had), a server that stayed online, wasnt being attacked (which was the majority of America).

Quote from: Lindsey on January 01, 2014, 00:28
Is this another "we advertise DDoS protection but can't back it up?" or just general outages :(
Ive heard a couple other servers are down too so its the host being sh*t as usual.

Snake How about you live with 400+ ping i bet you will complian and well said sandman :D
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Shake on January 02, 2014, 13:36
Seriously why the fuck does ping matter so much to you? It's a fucking TRUCKING (T R U C K I N G) server not a Deathmatch one, so why the fuck do you even care about ping? What matters isn't ping. You can have like 10 ping and still lag like fuck if the server (host) is not stable.


What really matters is the server (or host, in this case) stability, which the USA host had.


You have a server in EU with bad stability -> you complain about lag
You have a server in USA with good stability -> you complain about ping
You have a server in EU (AGAIN BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE ONLY COMPLAINING) -> you still complain about it being down and laggy and shit like that.


Can't you be fucking happy for once? You have to think what's best for the SERVER and ALL players, not just for YOU because YOU live in Europe or America or wherever the fuck you live at, and you want a server there so you have low ping.


Learn how to play with lag (even if it's super minimum) and live with it. Jeez.


There are WAY more important things to take care of than the freaking host which we're changing every now and then because people aren't happy.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: DeHavilland on January 02, 2014, 13:39
Cookie to Shake for the best reply to the topic!  :like: I agree with you!

Still don't complain about host here.

Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Rahail on January 02, 2014, 13:40
Quote from: Benny on January 01, 2014, 20:38
I think PaySafeCard and MasterCard would be good, i would donate each month since paysafe is easy to get.
It's for some countries (most of them Europe) so no!  :dislike:

Quote from: Shake on January 02, 2014, 13:36
Seriously why the fuck does ping matter so much to you? It's a fucking TRUCKING (T R U C K I N G) server not a Deathmatch one, so why the fuck do you even care about ping? What matters isn't ping. You can have like 10 ping and still lag like fuck if the server (host) is not stable.


What really matters is the server (or host, in this case) stability, which the USA host had.


You have a server in EU with bad stability -> you complain about lag
You have a server in USA with good stability -> you complain about ping
You have a server in EU (AGAIN BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE ONLY COMPLAINING) -> you still complain about it being down and laggy and shit like that.


Can't you be fucking happy for once? You have to think what's best for the SERVER and ALL players, not just for YOU because YOU live in Europe or America or wherever the fuck you live at, and you want a server there so you have low ping.


Learn how to play with lag (even if it's super minimum) and live with it. Jeez.


There are WAY more important things to take care of than the freaking host which we're changing every now and then because people aren't happy.
cookie for you!  :like:
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Viper on January 02, 2014, 13:49
How many down times did with have with the us host not many
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Benny on January 02, 2014, 13:57
Quote from: Rahail on January 02, 2014, 13:40
Quote from: Benny on January 01, 2014, 20:38
I think PaySafeCard and MasterCard would be good, i would donate each month since paysafe is easy to get.
It's for some countries (most of them Europe) so no!  :dislike:


Yes many countries have paysafe and mastercard, many of wich paypal and onebip is not supported.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: sardarji on January 02, 2014, 17:34
People always complain...when host was in US they complained about ping , now when server is in Europe they complain about lag.....

Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Matias on January 02, 2014, 18:30
Aw i missed them so much... desyncs are back and huge 500 ping spikes.
Everyone got desynced a sec ago.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Ethan on January 02, 2014, 21:12
host server is in Europe, other people in different countries complained lag problems, desyncs
host server is in America (no matter where), other people from different countries complained  lag problems, desyncs..

put the host in Antarctica, all countries will complain, super lag, major desync...

where is the compromise?
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: SpazzBucket. on January 02, 2014, 22:59
Just have to add, mick said donations are going down, so unless minimum VIP price is increased quite a bit we can only use what we can afford
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: WhiteBear on January 03, 2014, 01:20
Probably because we loosing people so logicaly thinking donates should went down.
+ not much use from active vip then server is half empty
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Dr_Doom on January 03, 2014, 05:26
a weekly lottery
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: $nake on January 03, 2014, 08:28
Quote from: Ethan on January 02, 2014, 21:12
host server is in Europe, other people in different countries complained lag problems, desyncs
host server is in America (no matter where), other people from different countries complained  lag problems, desyncs..

put the host in Antarctica, all countries will complain, super lag, major desync...

where is the compromise?
4 main hosts, connecting to one server, like RAID0, each continent will connect to own host, to avoid lag
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: bazingashane0 on January 03, 2014, 09:04
Quote from: $nake on January 03, 2014, 08:28
Quote from: Ethan on January 02, 2014, 21:12
host server is in Europe, other people in different countries complained lag problems, desyncs
host server is in America (no matter where), other people from different countries complained  lag problems, desyncs..

put the host in Antarctica, all countries will complain, super lag, major desync...

where is the compromise?
4 main hosts, connecting to one server, like RAID0, each continent will connect to own host, to avoid lag
$nake that will cause major lag and will cost in the realms of about $200~$400 a month as you would need a dedicated VPN tunnel between servers.


I hate tell you this but your being selfish. Europe has been proven on two occasions now in different countries to be a unreliable and not fair location for the general playerbase.
America has proven to be a good ground as it has plenty of bandwith available and is fair for all.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Benny on January 03, 2014, 09:22
The location doesn't matter much. If the host is good enought we would not have this problems but becuase we can not afford a better host we need to stick to what what we have.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Rahail on January 03, 2014, 09:56
Remove OneBip because it charges 175% extra fee. Its useless no one would like to pay so much ...


Add something new so everyone can donate easily, I would love to donate every month since its only HK$20 (2 Euro). I have Paypal and connected with Bank Account but it charges $200 to put money in Paypal.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: TheSandman on January 03, 2014, 10:43
Quote from: Rahail on January 03, 2014, 09:56
Remove OneBip because it charges 175% extra fee. Its useless no one would like to pay so much ...


Add something new so everyone can donate easily, I would love to donate every month since its only HK$20 (2 Euro). I have Paypal and connected with Bank Account but it charges $200 to put money in Paypal.
Some people use OneBip because they dont have bank account/paypal accounts so, its ok if you have to use it. But i believe the 175% fee isnt set by Mick.

What else is there to add? Suggest it yo, btw. It doesnt cost money to add money to PayPal, it should just take it straight from your account (i have a debit card linked, not my bank account) so i dont know if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Benny on January 03, 2014, 10:44
Yes more ways of donating and how about more types of VIP like diferent bundels, you pay more, you get more. Is that possible?
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Rahail on January 03, 2014, 10:52
Quote from: TheSandman on January 03, 2014, 10:43
Quote from: Rahail on January 03, 2014, 09:56
Remove OneBip because it charges 175% extra fee. Its useless no one would like to pay so much ...


Add something new so everyone can donate easily, I would love to donate every month since its only HK$20 (2 Euro). I have Paypal and connected with Bank Account but it charges $200 to put money in Paypal.
Some people use OneBip because they dont have bank account/paypal accounts so, its ok if you have to use it. But i believe the 175% fee isnt set by Mick.

What else is there to add? Suggest it yo, btw. It doesnt cost money to add money to PayPal, it should just take it straight from your account (i have a debit card linked, not my bank account) so i dont know if that makes a difference.
I know its not set by mick, Now in PayPal if you wanna add money, first you have to send money to "PayPal" then they will transfer to your PayPal account. And oversea transfer fee is $200 from HK (I dont know about other countries). I dont have debit/credit card. well its different shit here.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: TheSandman on January 03, 2014, 11:09
Youre not doing something right then.
Just leave your paypal account with $0. Go buy something with paypal, your paypal account should take the money needed (exact amount) from your bank account into paypal, then onto wherever you buying something from. Ive never been charged extra for buying stuff anywhere, including donating to the server, buying stuff worldwide on ebay using paypal, (including hong kong, united kingdom).

Dont transfer the money into your paypal account first.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Rahail on January 03, 2014, 11:24
Quote from: TheSandman on January 03, 2014, 11:09
Youre not doing something right then.
Just leave your paypal account with $0. Go buy something with paypal, your paypal account should take the money needed (exact amount) from your bank account into paypal, then onto wherever you buying something from. Ive never been charged extra for buying stuff anywhere, including donating to the server, buying stuff worldwide on ebay using paypal, (including hong kong, united kingdom).

Dont transfer the money into your paypal account first.
It didn't work, Hong Kong Banks charges this money not PayPal. Anyway let's see what can be done.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: mlwu10 on January 03, 2014, 11:47
Quote from: Rahail on January 03, 2014, 11:24
It didn't work, Hong Kong Banks charges this money not PayPal. Anyway let's see what can be done.
use visa
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Slo_Runner on January 03, 2014, 18:47
Quote from: mlwu10 on January 03, 2014, 11:47
Quote from: Rahail on January 03, 2014, 11:24
It didn't work, Hong Kong Banks charges this money not PayPal. Anyway let's see what can be done.
use visa

i used mastercard & made paypal acc & didn't connect my card to it, just paid when i came to pay page CT > donate > amount > paypal ;)
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Viper on January 04, 2014, 02:38
FOr the server to have uptime!!!
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: FatalFrame on January 04, 2014, 19:05
I dont know whats the point of running this server when it's dying?

CVT never was in deep shit like this

I remember in 2010 it was always 52/52 players and when the player slots changed to 100 then it was always 100/100.But now it rarely gets 50/100,most of the times it gets 30/100 players.Playing with these low amount players is not fun

What is the problem?GTA 5?No updates?Bullshit!Everyone knows whats the problem...
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Benny on January 04, 2014, 19:18
After what happend back in october/november 2012 the server is not normal anymore.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Shake on January 04, 2014, 19:38
The server is almost dead.

Either you change it like fuck and make it come back to how it was a year or so ago, or it's done.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: sardarji on January 04, 2014, 19:43
I think mick should reduce the number of slots because its never 100/100.
I think 65-70 slot would be fine. it will reduce the lag and cost too ( as i heard somewhere )
And it will help with donations too. More players will play because thre is no lag, so server will be full and ppl will donate for vip so that they can join quickly....


Just my opinion.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Benny on January 04, 2014, 19:58
I think we should get a good host for 50/60 slots.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Twido on January 04, 2014, 22:00
Instead of wasting money on a 100 slots server Mick should get a 50/60 slots server. This will also increase the donations because ppl only donate for the slots  :like:


Now that we only reach 40-60 players a day the suggestion above is good.
And also like everybody else said accept other kind of payments to donate...


Btw, its normal that the donations decreased. The server was dead for almost a year. We've lost such a huge playerbase, in the past we barerly had the oppertunity to join the server as a non-donator cuz it was like 99/100 or even 100/100.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: FatalFrame on January 04, 2014, 23:36
Quote from: Benny on January 04, 2014, 19:18
After what happend back in october/november 2012 the server is not normal anymore.

Yes...since the server got ddos attacked.CVT got fucked up because of ddos attacks
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Ethan on January 05, 2014, 01:22
CT's (my) plan for 2014
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: mlwu10 on January 05, 2014, 01:23
the only way to increase ppl is avoid ddos/more updates!
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Dobby on January 05, 2014, 06:02
Quote from: mlwu10 on January 05, 2014, 01:23
the only way to increase ppl is avoid ddos/more updates!

Avoid more updates? what?
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: TheSandman on January 05, 2014, 06:05
Quote from: Dobby on January 05, 2014, 06:02
Quote from: mlwu10 on January 05, 2014, 01:23
the only way to increase ppl is avoid ddos/more updates!

Avoid more updates? what?
He means avoid ddos, 'and' more updates.
'avoid ddos' / 'more updates'
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Dobby on January 05, 2014, 06:08
Quote from: TheSandman on January 05, 2014, 06:05
Quote from: Dobby on January 05, 2014, 06:02
Quote from: mlwu10 on January 05, 2014, 01:23
the only way to increase ppl is avoid ddos/more updates!

Avoid more updates? what?
He means avoid ddos, 'and' more updates.
'avoid ddos' / 'more updates'

Ah :pokerface:
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: TheGame on January 05, 2014, 16:25
How to get it back ''alive'':
1. Lower the slots to 60, less lag, cheaper, much more fun
2. Car trading back in
3. Don't add achievements anymore and keep trucking, server is made for that
4. If you follow the steps above, more players will join and the good old times are back.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Gameboy on January 05, 2014, 18:27
Quote from: TheGame on January 05, 2014, 16:25
How to get it back ''alive'':
1. Lower the slots to 60, less lag, cheaper, much more fun
2. Car trading back in
3. Don't add achievements anymore and keep trucking, server is made for that
4. If you follow the steps above, more players will join and the good old times are back.
Title: Re: Lets do this!
Post by: Benny on January 05, 2014, 18:49
CT's plan for 2014 should be traveling back in time to the end of 2012 and stay there xD

I don't know why we didn't go on the host that some of us(staff) were suggesting, by the look if it the host was good, almost no downtime or really short one and it was cheap. I think mick made a mistake by going on the host that we are now however i do understand the problems with the money and all.

What in 2014 should be done is try to get more ways of donating, get a host that will be good enought(and cheap) to power 60 slots(its all we need right now) and will be online all the time, and at the end make some good game mode updates and add some good maps.
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: lerdi on January 05, 2014, 19:51
Quote from: TheGame on January 05, 2014, 16:25
How to get it back ''alive'':
1. Lower the slots to 60, less lag, cheaper, much more fun
2. Car trading back in
3. Don't add achievements anymore and keep trucking, server is made for that
4. If you follow the steps above, more players will join and the good old times are back.

I might add more that server staff reduce the price of houses and increase earnings after completed missions!
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Shake on January 05, 2014, 20:05
Quote from: lerdi on January 05, 2014, 19:51
Quote from: TheGame on January 05, 2014, 16:25
How to get it back ''alive'':
1. Lower the slots to 60, less lag, cheaper, much more fun
2. Car trading back in
3. Don't add achievements anymore and keep trucking, server is made for that
4. If you follow the steps above, more players will join and the good old times are back.

I might add more that server staff reduce the price of houses and increase earnings after completed missions!
Houses are cheap as hell, and winning money is easy...
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Boy on January 05, 2014, 20:17
Quote from: Shake on January 05, 2014, 20:05
Quote from: lerdi on January 05, 2014, 19:51
Quote from: TheGame on January 05, 2014, 16:25
How to get it back ''alive'':
1. Lower the slots to 60, less lag, cheaper, much more fun
2. Car trading back in
3. Don't add achievements anymore and keep trucking, server is made for that
4. If you follow the steps above, more players will join and the good old times are back.

I might add more that server staff reduce the price of houses and increase earnings after completed missions!
Houses are cheap as hell, and winning money is easy...
houses aren't a goal for a lot of people..
money either.
I only play CT because it sometimes makes me happy and i love how people work together in convoys :)
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Ethan on January 06, 2014, 01:48
Quote from: TheGame on January 05, 2014, 16:25
How to get it back ''alive'':
1. Lower the slots to 60, less lag, cheaper, much more fun
2. Car trading back in
3. Don't add achievements anymore and keep trucking, server is made for that
4. If you follow the steps above, more players will join and the good old times are back.

you have an idea there to get it started.. and the server will lag no matter if 10 slots..
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Benny on January 06, 2014, 21:04
We maybe have a solution!

I was looking at the samp forums and this came to my eye: http://forum.sa-mp.com/showthread.php?t=486023

I think this should help us...
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Ethan on January 06, 2014, 21:12
Benny, thats a SAMP 0.3x R2 exploit that someone found and that is a patch for it... thats not something new or would help us beyond the protection it provides
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Benny on January 06, 2014, 21:19
Who found it lel, it was made by the SA-MP Development team as i see, and it is new. its from today..
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Ethan on January 06, 2014, 21:21
friend of mine showed me the original report on there
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Dobby on January 06, 2014, 21:58
Thanks benny, ill update the CT Repot tomorrow. Should be updated soonish if mick hasnt done it already
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: Ethan on January 06, 2014, 22:06
Quote from: Dobby on January 06, 2014, 21:58
Thanks benny, ill update the CT Report tomorrow. Should be updated soonish if mick hasnt done it already

he has.... sent him an email about it
Title: Re: CT's plan in 2014
Post by: mlwu10 on January 08, 2014, 04:04
sell advertisement on google to make more players