Non-fluent English speakers and the rules

[Joshy]

I believe that many players cannot understand the rules (therefore general gamemode too) of CT because they can't read English good enough to understand them. I did some research using the server demographics (of 19/08/11) and Wikipedia statistics of English-speaking populations. I used the 18 most popular countries.

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Romania
Poland
United States
Germany
United Kingdom
Netherlands
Lithuania
Russia
Croatia
Turkey
Hungary
Bulgaria
Czech
Estonia
Canada
France
Spain
Australia
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With these countries, I calculated that only 48.8% of the players from all of these countries combined can speak English. Of course since the gamemode is in English, it will attract more English-speaking players than non-English speakers, but still, this does show something.

My suggestion is translating the server and forum rules into the most popular languages, like Romanian, Polish, German, Dutch, Russian (if possible), Croatian and so on. Make a new selection box upon registration (in-game) asking them what language they speak so they will get the right set of rules. Save this value in case of /showrules and /rules, it could be used for statistical purposes too. More players will know the rules, so hopefully less rules being broken.

Of course we will need your help to translate if this does get passed.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population

(note: don't translate yet in case this gets rejected)
(also I have a feeling that a wave of "I can't help that my English is poor" posts is coming)

[Sjomp]

nice suggestion +1
but i think this will make more non-englisch in mainchat so maybe if you selected a language you got automatic sended to that cb channel.

[Supra]

It would be good for those who don't speak English, but in my opinion, people have to be able to write and understand English in order to play properly on this server..
And if this would happen, wouldn't some get confused and by mistake believe they are allowed to speak using their native language in the main chat?

[Joshy]

It would be good for those who don't speak English, but in my opinion, people have to be able to write and understand English in order to play properly on this server..
And if this would happen, wouldn't some get confused and by mistake believe they are allowed to speak using their native language in the main chat?

Well the rules would say "rule 5) speak English in CB 19 or go to /cb" in their language, perhaps includes their languages CB number in the rules for reference.

[Matheus]

People from my country (Brazil) doesn't have a good english...Can you please add it to your idea? Its going to be better even for me, because my english isn't that good too..

Thanks!

[Matias]

You know what would be good, that when anyone join for first time the server, it ask him which language he talk. When the language is choosed all texts from server are wrote in his language, but its alot of work for mick.
If just the rules are setted to they language it will work i guess so +1, its a good suggestion

Also mick there is an include around SA-MP forums to traslate gamemode texts, just to let you know, maybe you can use it, i dont remember the name of it

[Deff]

+1
More players = More fun!

[Jopi]

If you write rules on Croatian..Bosnian,Serbian,Slovenian,Macedonian too can use it   Because we have almost the same languge

[Random_Hero]

I like this idea a lot, +1 from me.

I also like what DarkMati mentioned. It would be a great idea to have an in-game translation system, but it definitely would be difficult to make and would probably cause some sort of lag. Maybe a way to resolute this situation would be to make a translation system, but have it as a mod that can be downloaded from the site? Not sure what type of mod it would be.. maybe a CLEO, but it would be a good idea if easy enough and possible.

+1 from me, good suggestion Joshy.

[Neon$lash]

that would be a nice idea. i tought about that. i support this. event tho i know a lot of english would help a lot of non english speakers. +1

[$nake]

Big +1, but I will still use ENGLISH CT Version

Something from my FB:

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[Deff]

Big +1, but I will still use ENGLISH CT Version

There won't be a different version.
Only the set of rules would be different.

[mr.hilly]

More players = More fun!

correct More players more fun thats AND More LAAAAGS so +1 but to i didnt lag i will walk 

[Lindsey]

I like this idea.

[Blackhawk]

+1
And I can help in Hungarian.

[Benny]

1

[SeraMondialu]

+1 . There are a lot of noobs that doesn't give a fuck about english class .

I will translate the rules for RO if .

[F4LL]

+1 This will increase the number of players on server.

[Bruno_2MLG4CT]

Very smart idea, if mick accept it, it would be good change for the server
CB 6 is set as a croatian channel but there are Macedonians,Serbians, Bosnians etc because we have similar language, also there are a lot of players who are good in english who can help for translating.
I can help too
Big +1

[zimon]

I can translate to swedish

[Magri]

You choice 18 country most used in CVT, but I see everyday (afternoon) 3/4/5 italians people online together... Italy is not representative?

[$nake]

.. There are a lot of noobs that doesn't give a fuck about english class .

un-for-tu-na-te-ly.. idiot teachers are letting them go trough school years without knowing english at least at communicative level..
standard polish guy who has tons of friends and is coolest in school would say: i no english asking understant yu no saying, kurwa go mać

[F4LL]

You choice 18 country most used in CVT, but I see everyday (afternoon) 3/4/5 italians people online together... Italy is not representative?

3-4-5    He listed the most popular countries. Italy is a nice country but like u said u see 3-5 players, but the USA/Romania/Poland have hundreds of players.

[Goldy.]

  +1   

[George]

Nice idea but you should be careful who you choose to translate or the rules will get another meaning.

[Moonwalker]

Joshy, very nice idea ... +1
also, I can help with translation on Croatian language.

[Cristinelu]

+1 . There are a lot of noobs that doesn't give a fuck about english class .

I will translate the rules for RO if .

"noobs that doesn't give a fuck"
"I will translate the rules for RO if ."
Dude...
I can translate them if you want me to.

[FaZe1337Sajmon420PL]

Rules? Who read rules? Everyone is just looking for "accepct" button. Sad but true. Im sure there still will be players from other countries asking in main chat for example: "hi are there any polish players?" still in polish even after he got polish rules shown which he didnt even read. How about a script that automatically moves u to the cb channel from ur country? (I have no idea how to program it but im sure mick does )

[Moonwalker]

Rules? Who read rules? Everyone is just looking for "accepct" button. Sad but true. Im sure there still will be players from other countries asking in main chat for example: "hi are there any polish players?" still in polish even after he got polish rules shown which he didnt even read. How about a script that automatically moves u to the cb channel from ur country? (I have no idea how to program it but im sure mick does )

I read rules.
And this thing that script automatically move you to cb channel from your country is also very good. +1
You must be in your cb channel, but u can write in main chat with a " * " how it is now...but u can't go to main channel (/cb 19)

[Blackhawk]

Rules? Who read rules? Everyone is just looking for "accepct" button. Sad but true.

True...
I think "Accept button" should be not available for 1 minute and there would be a countdown clock.

[The_Spinner]

1

[Cineks]

standard polish guy who has tons of friends and is coolest in school would say: i no english asking understant yu no saying, kurwa go mać

It's more like "A ja to pierdole, na chuj mi angielski w życiu." and then we can see "me banned, kurwa, why?".

[Joshly98]

It's an awesome idea, but it would just take a long time to translate everything, but that's the only negative, so:

+1